Originally by: Karrimdra

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Originally by: Tassi

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I am also not sure if you can put things like abusing and exploiting of bugs into the same hole with dev intervention and bpo spawning. Not sure about it tho

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I would like to say, that you cannot lump in a dev BPo spawning with the total exploitation of spawn timerson complexes like RA have done. The isk input from the complex is probably 5x that of the bpo's that were spawned. (tinfoil hattery time, zomg were those *reall* the only bpo's?!... my answer is likely.)

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Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius

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Edited by: Atreus Minmatarius on 13/03/2007 16:40:44

Originally by: prsr

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Originally by: Tassi

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if there is 1 war reason in my entire eve career that is based on FACTS of breaking rules or moral then it is BoB cheating and hilariously getting caught doing so

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Funny how you talk about facts and then start making them up. Go post on Kugu's forum and enjoy his reality there pls.

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At least BoB have the good sense to not post. Oh yeah, head on to k forums too, some other very intresting things there too (things that CCP has since confirmed also) like your leader (former?) beeing a GM... that a good onee too

enjoy empire btw, i hear the weather is mild there with 99% chance of DEATH

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Originally by: Laura Baretta

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Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius

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Edited by: Atreus Minmatarius on 13/03/2007 16:40:44

Originally by: prsr

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Originally by: Tassi

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if there is 1 war reason in my entire eve career that is based on FACTS of breaking rules or moral then it is BoB cheating and hilariously getting caught doing so

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Funny how you talk about facts and then start making them up. Go post on Kugu's forum and enjoy his reality there pls.

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At least BoB have the good sense to not post. Oh yeah, head on to k forums too, some other very intresting things there too (things that CCP has since confirmed also) like your leader (former?) beeing a GM... that a good onee too

enjoy empire btw, i hear the weather is mild there with 99% chance of DEATH

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I hope someday you will wisen up and realise that the witchhunt for GMs and devs playing this/their game will only hurt the game more.

Contrary to popular believe many devs and GMs still play this game. They play it because they have fun playing it i would imagine. It also has the sideeffect of them collecting first-hand expirience with their product and consumers.

What has The Enslaver being a GM since january to do with anything? You make it sound like it is a bad thing. It was a bad thing from Kugutsumen to make it public because its not his damn business. He is a stalker, nothing more. The Ensalver had to give up his character because of that ignorant fanatic.

Just stop with the witchhunt and let GMs / Devs enjoy the game too.


On topic: It's over when it's over.

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Originally by: Joskken Inx

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I'll stop using "BoD" when they stop putting [DEVS] on their ships. Period and point blank.

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Originally by: Kilostream

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To all involved - enjoy this time, win or lose it is a major event in EvE history unfolding before your eyes, enjoy it for what it is and don't get sucked into the propaganda-spewing cretins self indulgent little fantasies.

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Originally by: Troubadour

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Originally by: Jane Spondogolo

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Oh pulllease boys. Psyops in this thread.
blah blah blah garbage.

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So basically you are saying that instead of everyone being a BoB pet, they should be an RA pet because they are big and need the money and don't like BoB? You are playing the "who is the lesser of two evil" game. In this game the BoB leadership is far more trustworthy then RA ever will be. If RA wants to try to run a huge alliance on some 10/10 plexes, that is their own fault, and shame on people for supporting them. What would happen if some enterprising plex farmers camped those 10/10s for a week or two? It's not hard to do, just farm the keys and have a few BSes with cloaks and a WCS or 2. Would RA as an alliance all of a sudden be in a financial crisis? It's ridiculous.

LV doesn't have much left as far as space, but they have some very ****ed off pilots still. Do you really think they will just give up because they have no more space? I forsee them returning to empire for a few days, and then going on the offensive against the north or RA. With most of RA moving out to feyth it leaves their backdoor open. even if they do not succeed in taking much of their space, RA will of had to pull back from the frontlines and go on the defensive.

And frankly, you have no idea what is going on in fountain or querious. Fountain is back to pre-war status almost. The occasional raiding party, maybe a small fleet passing through once in awhile, but there are NO sov wars, or even a large presence of northern alliances in fountain anymore. And this was thanks to mostly Xelas, Aftermath, and the other small alliances that reside there. The constant harassment and fighterbombings of smaller alliances are what defeated D2 and friends in Fountain, NOT the BoB capital fleet. Bob helped quite a bit taking out posses quicker then the locals could, but if it wasn't for the little guys making life as miserable as possible for D2, they wouldn't of left. For the record, just so you get it through your head for the last time. D2 came with a huge cap fleet and lots of supplies. D2 tryed to fight. D2 was countered every single time and suffered constant harassment(they also lost a titan). D2 LEFT. They are not in FA, they are gone, and they were gone before YouWhat announced anything.

And in Querious the North holds no stations. They are basing out of low-sec Khanid as they have nowhere else to go really. And they are being harassed by FIX, KIA, and now EM. [BTW IRON, fighting your BS fleet at our pos is not our style. Assassinating your FC in an ABSO with nanoships just after the fleet breaks up is :)]
It's kind of sad that IRON/RZR/PURE/MM have to get a fleet of like 40 people to even undock or risk getting wtfpwned.

So if you want to sum it up. RA/GOON have been successful (at a large cost though). They are currently invading Feyth/Eso, which was lightly defended to start with. The infighting is starting to get to the coalition however, time will tell if the southern component will hold together.

The north has not been successful with their invasion. D2 and friends were pushed out of FA. IRON/RZR/MM/PURE were also pushed out of Querious after giving it their all(respect for going all out, I think some of the best fights have been in Querious). Now the north has their own problems with 2 smaller but troublesome alliances siding against them. We will have to see where this goes.

I'm not sure though if when the southern guys make it to delve (if they make it) that they will be able to put up a good enough fight with what is left to push their way in. Delve is a fortress.

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Originally by: Falryx

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Of course, the irony of this is that the Coalition have largely become the propoganda-spewing haters -- ready to throw barbs at anyone with an opposing position or opinion -- the very thing they claim is an underpinning of BoB behavior to be eradicated.

The "holy war"-inization of this conflict isn't healthy for the game or its participants. You know what? We're basically drawn into two sides... let's let the fleet battles determine the outcome and keep the fights without the usual level of drivel that adorns these forums.

Calling me names or random slurs to make me feel like a sad panda not only isn't going to work, but it's also just plain stupid.

Show some respect and enjoy the game.

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Originally by: Father Weebles

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always rooted for LV and BoB mainly because of the numbers and all that they faced and especially because RA + Goons=poo before the big war

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but they will fail.

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Originally by: Falryx

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QFT. Of course, the irony of this is that the Coalition have largely become the propoganda-spewing haters -- ready to throw barbs at anyone with an opposing position or opinion -- the very thing they claim is an underpinning of BoB behavior to be eradicated.

The "holy war"-inization of this conflict isn't healthy for the game or its participants. You know what? We're basically drawn into two sides... let's let the fleet battles determine the outcome and keep the fights without the usual level of drivel that adorns these forums.

Calling me names or random slurs to make me feel like a sad panda not only isn't going to work, but it's also just plain stupid.

Show some respect and enjoy the game.

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Originally by: Uhmari

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-- The reason for this is simple, There is no one in the north.

Simply put D2 is trying to pretend its losing, and dying while all the while secretly establishing bases in the south, In delve, Stain and a few other locations.

The coalition is now on phase two, to assualt bobs space, but they will fail. Personally i think d2 can rott, I requested them to help ASCN when we fought bob, and they told me to stuff it, and i warned them this would come...

CArrying on, they will fail, I am done taking sides on the coalition, or bob. Im declaring neutrality, accept when it comes to d2, which i will unconditionally help bob kill.
Hey, Pay backs a pain.[/b] its my belief that bob will win this war, i have seen it, and anticipated moves of the coalition, the flaw in their tactics is that they are doing what ascn did to bob, Namely pos-waring or "hidding" in pos's, Game over coalition, no offese to my many friends there, but as a neutral person, i just think your done for.


With that said, Grats bob, You have taken your first step to gloy, You have now taken most of eves power, and problem solo'd the largest body of alliances to ever unite to fight a single entity in eve.

-uhmari
Solaris operations, FUC alliance

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Originally by: Uhmari

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The coalition is now on phase two, to assualt bobs space, but they will fail. Personally i think d2 can rott, I requested them to help ASCN when we fought bob, and they told me to stuff it, and i warned them this would come.
-uhmari
Solaris operations, FUC alliance

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Originally by: Dogsta

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and I am sure I am not alone in saying it was of no surprise/shock etc that the North would wind up in a fight with the Band of Brothers, being, oh I don't know, uhmm maybe given is a better word. yes, given that most of the alliances/corps in the North have long played pew pew with Robert.
anyways happy thursday! and back to mining I go.

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Originally by: ErbUs

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yes 90% of them ive seen have had [DEVS] before the ship name

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