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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2016.08.10 22:10:48 -
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Have you noticed more fools running around scouting you out?
Without the easy intel and locator agents these scouts are forced to be in the same system as you with "eyes on target" in order to gather intel.
Have you noticed the same people creeping you? Those who dont "live" or do anything else in the systems you travel to? Those who show up shortly after you do? Those who "tail" you from system to system?
Its gotten way easier to spot the fakes and the wannabes and much harder to get actual intel on people without immediately alerting them to your shadowy presence, about as hard as a fat guy standing behind a twig, and I find this absolutely amusing.
How have the watchlist changes affected you? Do you notice the same blues, neuts or reds showing up like clockwork after spotting you in a system? This was going on all behind the scenes with locator agents and the old watchlist, but now its out in the open for all to see and take notice of.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
14365
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Posted - 2016.08.11 10:43:02 -
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Paranoia intensifies.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
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Marsha Mallow
2884
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Posted - 2016.08.11 13:05:53 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:How have the watchlist changes affected you? Not logging in much to do in space stuff atm but I have noticed a change in behaviour with less random convos opening from people spotting me logging in and me doing less of the same. Might be because I completely deleted my contact list just before the change hit to add people manually with new settings >.> Something to add to the to-do list
From a nostalgia point of view going to miss watching people sequentially log in their supposedly supersecret alts with amusement.
Has it nuked the lowsec super slaughterhouse btw? Haven't really been paying attention but it seems like the daily reports of supers been whacked are down a bit. Although I vaguely remember hearing an allusion to new methods for super hunting emerging - not quite sure what they were talking about here.
Svara - haha u said flow
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Omar Alharazaad
Nefarious Porpoise
3030
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Posted - 2016.08.11 13:15:34 -
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I have noticed mercs that hunted their targets starting to cancel their subs due to their vocation being rendered obsolete in favor of hub humpers and pipe campers. Congrats on validating a stereotype by making it the only viable means of generating their own brand of content CCP. The pooch, it be screwed. House calls are now pretty much a thing of the past.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
489
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Posted - 2016.08.11 13:23:12 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I have noticed mercs that hunted their targets starting to cancel their subs due to their vocation being rendered obsolete in favor of hub humpers and pipe campers. Congrats on validating a stereotype by making it the only viable means of generating their own brand of content CCP. The pooch, it be screwed. House calls are now pretty much a thing of the past. Bah - warfare can now return to its noble roots: Park yourself on the enemy undock and troll them in local until they can't take it anymore... |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8556
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Posted - 2016.08.11 13:53:06 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: How have the watchlist changes affected you?.
There is now less blinky crap in Doc's client.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Hengle Teron
Order In Disorder Curatores Veritatis Alliance
60337
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Posted - 2016.08.11 14:12:15 -
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That was my first thought as well. :) |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
559
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Posted - 2016.08.11 14:20:30 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Have you noticed more fools running around scouting you out? No. Nobody cares if I'm online or not. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17343
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Posted - 2016.08.11 18:49:49 -
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I now get more chat invite spam
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
546
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Posted - 2016.08.11 22:25:08 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I now get more chat invite spam
Drat, and I thought you were ignoring my chat requests because I boiled your pet rabbit. Now I'm reduced to just another spammer... man, what does it take to get noticed around here?!
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
2015
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Posted - 2016.08.11 22:52:17 -
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I haven't noticed anything...
Cause I don't log in.
Cause when I do it turns out I'm really just playing with myself.
#wormholes2016
Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
833
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Posted - 2016.08.11 23:50:48 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I have noticed mercs that hunted their targets starting to cancel their subs due to their vocation being rendered obsolete in favor of hub humpers and pipe campers. Congrats on validating a stereotype by making it the only viable means of generating their own brand of content CCP. The pooch, it be screwed. House calls are now pretty much a thing of the past.
A few years ago when I did the merc life I actively hunted around for targets. Had some nice successes too. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17348
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Posted - 2016.08.12 00:46:08 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I now get more chat invite spam Drat, and I thought you were ignoring my chat requests because I boiled your pet rabbit. Now I'm reduced to just another spammer... man, what does it take to get noticed around here?! oooooh that rabbit was going to be boiled down anyway i just dont like you cos you smell
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Sandy Point
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2016.08.12 00:52:55 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:I haven't noticed anything...
Cause I don't log in.
Cause when I do it turns out I'm really just playing with myself.
#wormholes2016
Watch that, you'll go blind and grow hair on your hand.
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Raiz Nhell
Tactically Gifted Tactical Supremacy
528
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Posted - 2016.08.12 02:26:50 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I now get more chat invite spam Drat, and I thought you were ignoring my chat requests because I boiled your pet rabbit. Now I'm reduced to just another spammer... man, what does it take to get noticed around here?! oooooh that rabbit was going to be boiled down anywayi just dont like you cos you smell
Now I have this terrifying image in my head of Ralph carefully doing arts and crafts while looking through the lists of Kill it Forward requests...
"Just let me finish guilding this hand crafted frame... then we will commence the spaceboat violence"
Like Blofeld with his cat, Ralph carefully places the decoupage to one side before ordering someones death..
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There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
552
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Posted - 2016.08.12 16:38:59 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I now get more chat invite spam Drat, and I thought you were ignoring my chat requests because I boiled your pet rabbit. Now I'm reduced to just another spammer... man, what does it take to get noticed around here?! oooooh that rabbit was going to be boiled down anywayi just dont like you cos you smell
Yeah, the smell of clean shampooed hair, body wash and a nice mild perfume is foreign and unwelcome to some...
I've heard that trolls especially hate it... that's why we trollops have good hygene... it keeps the trolls away.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17374
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Posted - 2016.08.12 16:48:14 -
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Raiz Nhell wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Pandora Carrollon wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I now get more chat invite spam Drat, and I thought you were ignoring my chat requests because I boiled your pet rabbit. Now I'm reduced to just another spammer... man, what does it take to get noticed around here?! oooooh that rabbit was going to be boiled down anywayi just dont like you cos you smell Now I have this terrifying image in my head of Ralph carefully doing arts and crafts while looking through the lists of Kill it Forward requests... "Just let me finish guilding this hand crafted frame... then we will commence the spaceboat violence" Like Blofeld with his cat, Ralph carefully places the decoupage to one side before ordering someones death.. . that is actually closer to the truth than you realize
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Solecist Project
32032
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Posted - 2016.08.12 19:05:01 -
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Quote:Not sure if there can be enough hell raised to bring it back unfortunately.
No one really cares.
Projecting importance into an irrelevant opinion (forum posting) doesn't show care, it shows anger. And besides are most people incapable of writing objective posts. They're all dismissable.
Most people are concentrating on "fun" and how to easily obtain it.
Consider the watchlist changes. All that happened was worthless drivel on the forums. Like any political entity, CCP CAN and does ignore opposition and only grooms it when convinient.
Now +, after the change, it is claimed that mercs have "adapted" by using mass wardecs ... ... which only shows the lack of care and the centricism on "my fun".
Now they wait (!) for CCP to maybe implement something that turns their not-yet-miserable-situation in a better situation and they will praise them for it, because then it'll be better than now. And they'll have forgotten who created the shituation in the first place.
Or look at gankers. What happens when there's a nerf? They gank out of protest. Happened repeatedly. What does it achieve? Nothing. It's 100% predictable and thus can be planned for accordingly or outright ignored.
The lack of actual opposition in EVE is outright disgusting to me (sorry) ... ... and perfectly mirrors how too many people have it too good ingame ... ... and that bread&circus is a well established crowd control mechanism.
Thanks for reading. I managed to connect my wiimote with my windows tablet and will now happily keep dieing 10.000 times in commander keen. Where you die. A ******* lot. And while the vast majority of players nowadays would throw it away for an easier game that suits their egos, will i instead keep trying to get better to beat that damn series. Again. And i don't need a forum to complain about it.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
501
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Posted - 2016.08.12 19:15:24 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Quote:Not sure if there can be enough hell raised to bring it back unfortunately. No one really cares. Projecting importance into an irrelevant opinion (forum posting) doesn't show care, it shows anger. And besides are most people incapable of writing objective posts. They're all dismissable. Most people are concentrating on "fun" and how to easily obtain it. Consider the watchlist changes. All that happened was worthless drivel on the forums. Like any political entity, CCP CAN and does ignore opposition and only grooms it when convinient. Now +, after the change, it is claimed that mercs have "adapted" by using mass wardecs ... ... which only shows the lack of care and the centricism on "my fun". Now they wait (!) for CCP to maybe implement something that turns their not-yet-miserable-situation in a better situation and they will praise them for it, because then it'll be better than now. And they'll have forgotten who created the shituation in the first place. Or look at gankers. What happens when there's a nerf? They gank out of protest. Happened repeatedly. What does it achieve? Nothing. It's 100% predictable and thus can be planned for accordingly or outright ignored. The lack of actual opposition in EVE is outright disgusting to me (sorry) ... ... and perfectly mirrors how too many people have it too good ingame ... ... and that bread&circus is a well established crowd control mechanism. Thanks for reading. I managed to connect my wiimote with my windows tablet and will now happily keep dieing 10.000 times in commander keen. Where you die. A ******* lot. And while the vast majority of players nowadays would throw it away for an easier game that suits their egos, will i instead keep trying to get better to beat that damn series. Again. And i don't need a forum to complain about it. RP time: LIES! The forums are LIFE! There is NO LIFE outside of the forums! All meaning comes *from* the forums! And everything on the forums has meaning!!!
But seriously...they are "Crowd Control Productions"...is it really surprising? |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
559
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Posted - 2016.08.12 20:12:31 -
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Solecist Project wrote:No one really cares.
(snip... a lot of cynical stuff)
Your foundation point appears to be in juxtaposition with logical and historical understandings.
CCP has listened, commented on, and changed things in EVE due to forum/Reddit/media postings. Just a single instance would be enough to invalidate the supposition but with many instances of it... well, there it is. You, personally, may not care and that clearly shows, so when it comes to speaking for yourself, your comments are 100% accurate.
CCP has an investment in the feedback they get, no matter the form. Yes, you're right, they have the power to choose what to listen to and what to dismiss, that's a power all of us possess, so it's just stating the obvious. The points you make after that are what's most odd here.
Essentially your post is telling everyone to shut up because anything anyone says is dismissed. That makes it about the worst post I've ever read on these forums. The irony is, by that logic, your own post is just as easily dismissed.
If I'm wrong in that read of your post, I apologize ahead of time, I'm not trying to attack you or misinterpret you but that is a very disappointing post from someone that is clearly a long time veteran of these forums.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Viktor Amarr
27
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Posted - 2016.08.12 20:23:47 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Solecist Project wrote:No one really cares.
(snip... a lot of cynical stuff) Your foundation point appears to be in juxtaposition with logical and historical understandings. CCP has listened, commented on, and changed things in EVE due to forum/Reddit/media postings. Just a single instance would be enough to invalidate the supposition but with many instances of it... well, there it is. You, personally, may not care and that clearly shows, so when it comes to speaking for yourself, your comments are 100% accurate. CCP has an investment in the feedback they get, no matter the form. Yes, you're right, they have the power to choose what to listen to and what to dismiss, that's a power all of us possess, so it's just stating the obvious. The points you make after that are what's most odd here. Essentially your post is telling everyone to shut up because anything anyone says is dismissed. That makes it about the worst post I've ever read on these forums. The irony is, by that logic, your own post is just as easily dismissed. If I'm wrong in that read of your post, I apologize ahead of time, I'm not trying to attack you or misinterpret you but that is a very disappointing post from someone that is clearly a long time veteran of these forums.
Solecist is right, however. The "new" CCP ( from a bittervet pov) will do their own thing that slowly steers EVE more and more towards a generic grind MMO for non-efforts, away from what the initial outset for EVE was. No amount of "protesting", "discussions" or anything will change that.
If you have carebears who don't actually play their own game in control of that game then you will eventually end up with, dare I say it, a WOW clone of sorts. |
Jazmyn Stone
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
179
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Posted - 2016.08.12 23:01:37 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: Have you noticed more fools running around scouting you out? Without the easy intel and locator agents these scouts are forced to be in the same system as you with "eyes on target" in order to gather intel. Have you noticed the same people creeping you? Those who dont "live" or do anything else in the systems you travel to? Those who show up shortly after you do? Those who "tail" you from system to system? Its gotten way easier to spot the fakes and the wannabes and much harder to get actual intel on people without immediately alerting them to your shadowy presence, about as hard as a fat guy standing behind a twig , and I find this absolutely amusing. How have the watchlist changes affected you? Do you notice the same blues, neuts or reds showing up like clockwork after spotting you in a system? This was going on all behind the scenes with locator agents and the old watchlist, but now its out in the open for all to see and take notice of.
No, I haven't.
You're just sayin' stuff to get people to reply . . .
. . . oops.
-Jaz
Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
888
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Posted - 2016.08.13 00:23:23 -
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Jazmyn Stone wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: Have you noticed more fools running around scouting you out? Without the easy intel and locator agents these scouts are forced to be in the same system as you with "eyes on target" in order to gather intel. Have you noticed the same people creeping you? Those who dont "live" or do anything else in the systems you travel to? Those who show up shortly after you do? Those who "tail" you from system to system? Its gotten way easier to spot the fakes and the wannabes and much harder to get actual intel on people without immediately alerting them to your shadowy presence, about as hard as a fat guy standing behind a twig , and I find this absolutely amusing. How have the watchlist changes affected you? Do you notice the same blues, neuts or reds showing up like clockwork after spotting you in a system? This was going on all behind the scenes with locator agents and the old watchlist, but now its out in the open for all to see and take notice of. No, I haven't. You're just sayin' stuff to get people to reply . . . . . . oops. -Jaz Actually no. The new mechanics mean that there is a lot more scouting involved if you want to makes sure someone is in a particular system or what they are doing there as well as if they are online or active. You are forced to LOOK at your target in many cases with mains or alts. And as such it affords those who are being hunted much easier times to basically ID whos hunting them with some simple intel gathering tools, aka a brain.
This was par for the course for years in Eve tbh for anyone that used this device in their heads. But it seems as if a lot of people STILL dont pay attention as much as they should to surroundings like local.
You could say this is a public service announcement. But of course I cant make it all happy and giddy cuz "THIS IS EVE!!!" << Scream that part while sitting in the dark into your headphones for added terror effect.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Solecist Project
32033
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Posted - 2016.08.13 06:45:32 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Solecist Project wrote:No one really cares.
(snip... a lot of cynical stuff) Your foundation point appears to be in juxtaposition with logical and historical understandings. CCP has listened, commented on, and changed things in EVE due to forum/Reddit/media postings. Just a single instance would be enough to invalidate the supposition but with many instances of it... well, there it is. You, personally, may not care and that clearly shows, so when it comes to speaking for yourself, your comments are 100% accurate. CCP has an investment in the feedback they get, no matter the form. Yes, you're right, they have the power to choose what to listen to and what to dismiss, that's a power all of us possess, so it's just stating the obvious. The points you make after that are what's most odd here. Essentially your post is telling everyone to shut up because anything anyone says is dismissed. That makes it about the worst post I've ever read on these forums. The irony is, by that logic, your own post is just as easily dismissed. If I'm wrong in that read of your post, I apologize ahead of time, I'm not trying to attack you or misinterpret you but that is a very disappointing post from someone that is clearly a long time veteran of these forums. Meh.
They listen when it fits for them. They have enough experience to understand that deliberately ******* some things up gains them karmapoints* for then "fixing" it. At the same time do they know that they can break things, because people will point out how they fixed "that other thing". Sure, it'll happen eventually and like with every political entity it'll be glorious and everyone forgot what happened in the first place.
* (it's both a pun and an insult depending on the perspective :P)
I was talking about how there aren't enough willing smart people to make a proper fuss to prevent things from happening. You know, what some - including myself - would call organized. Forums aren't organized and as long there are no mass-unsubs and no outlook of bad press... who cares?
CCP is, for us players in the universe, a - or the - political entity. Reddit is a playing field for mainstreamers and manipulatable. When the sheep squeek, the farmer listens if he wants to - for whatever reason.
Remember the "bug" CCP introduces that allowed all skins to fit on any ship? They removed it. Of course they did, it would have hurt their control over the content in the long rin. But who says they didn't put it in on purpose to water the people's wallets? It was a hype machine! A really good one! There was no better way to get people to play with the skins and getting hooked to them. No better way to gauge the customers interests!
Tinfoil? Ha, I would have done the same thing! It's NOT rocket science!
The real victims of ccp are the smart ones who are too isolated to cause proper opposition or somehow believe they're so smart that the thought of ccp having an agenda is completely foreign and conspiracy material for them.
And i didn't mean to tell people to shut up. Quite the opposite. They already are shutting up. The sheep on reddit don't count, they're the sheepish fun-crowd who is being milked of their money - rightfully so, i might add.
As Dirty and myself have pointed out often enough in the past and present: their name's the game.
(Wow i didn't even have coffee or food yet and managed to not insult anyone. I'm making progress!)
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17393
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Posted - 2016.08.13 08:31:51 -
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Sol, shes new. She hasent been around long enough to see the broad strokes yet. You know the parable about bringing an ass to water? Think along those lines. I have no doubt shes the makings of solid objectivity in there but theres only so much you can make them see.
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Wanda Fayne
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Posted - 2016.08.13 08:32:06 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Solecist Project wrote:No one really cares.
(snip... a lot of cynical stuff) Your foundation point appears to be in juxtaposition with logical and historical understandings. CCP has listened, commented on, and changed things in EVE due to forum/Reddit/media postings. Just a single instance would be enough to invalidate the supposition but with many instances of it... well, there it is. You, personally, may not care and that clearly shows, so when it comes to speaking for yourself, your comments are 100% accurate. CCP has an investment in the feedback they get, no matter the form. Yes, you're right, they have the power to choose what to listen to and what to dismiss, that's a power all of us possess, so it's just stating the obvious. The points you make after that are what's most odd here. Essentially your post is telling everyone to shut up because anything anyone says is dismissed. That makes it about the worst post I've ever read on these forums. The irony is, by that logic, your own post is just as easily dismissed. If I'm wrong in that read of your post, I apologize ahead of time, I'm not trying to attack you or misinterpret you but that is a very disappointing post from someone that is clearly a long time veteran of these forums.
Look no further than the Svipul. It embodies the "but my fun" mentality. Nobody is listening...
your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic
-Lan Wang-
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Solecist Project
32040
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Posted - 2016.08.13 09:00:25 -
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Well, to be fair, it's how ccp balances things by deliberately implementing an imbalance.
They always intentionally have an op ship. It's for the crowd who needs to feel superior and keeps them happy. Eventually it gets the nerfbat and a new ship will be op. It's been like this for as long as i can remember, but iirc back then whole races were op in comparison. The good times of winmatar...
The svipul thing really is just business as usual and another crowd control mechanic.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
609
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Posted - 2016.08.13 10:04:14 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: Have you noticed more fools running around scouting you out?
Have you noticed the same people creeping you? Those who dont "live" or do anything else in the systems you travel to? Those who show up shortly after you do? Those who "tail" you from system to system?
Well now that you mention it, our regular cloaky campers have packed their bags so I suspect they were I N F A M O U S's eyes. They have however already been replaced by some other cloaky camper, so ... nope. Can't say there are more fools on the loose than there were before.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
889
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Posted - 2016.08.13 10:39:26 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Well, to be fair, it's how ccp balances things by deliberately implementing an imbalance.
They always intentionally have an op ship. It's for the crowd who needs to feel superior and keeps them happy. Eventually it gets the nerfbat and a new ship will be op. It's been like this for as long as i can remember, but iirc back then whole races were op in comparison. The good times of winmatar...
The svipul thing really is just business as usual and another crowd control mechanic. The biggest part of this for me is the metrics CCP has regarding what skills the majority have that are training. To truly control such an OP FOTM you need to know what skills people DONT have so you can force them to train them to get to the FOTM. It means more skill injectors, skill queues and/or $$$ for CCP.
But I think were beating a dead horse here with that analogy. CCP IS a company in the final end so anyone that should think that profit margins arent what they need to make is delusional at best imo.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
563
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Posted - 2016.08.16 15:24:17 -
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Ralph is correct, as usual. I don't have experience with the history of CCP and how they work with the game. I was trying really hard to avoid commenting on CCP's past and even where they might intend to go. I was more trying to make my points about a certain responsibility that we as posters have, especially you guys with the knowledge of the ancient tales of the past, if we want to actually continue to influence CCP.
I appreciate Solecist's response to me, it was on target and good. I was worried when I posted that comment that I might upset some people.
In the end, if we, as feedback to CCP, see ourselves as being ignored and post with bitter tears of disappointment, then not only will it be a self fulfilling prophecy but it just wastes our time grieving over our lack of power instead of taking it. To an extent, that's kind of what Solecist was actually getting at, the only real power we have as a community is where our subscription money goes.
I think at some level CCP sees that, understands it, and is probably not intentionally abusing that trust. They are entitled to their own direction and choices, it is their game.
My hope would be that we, as the community, could command enough respect with CCP that they are not only willing to listen to us, but partner with us. That means that we have to respect and partner with them as well. It's something of a two way street.
Maybe I'm totally out of line, being a little June Cleaver here, however, I like EVE... it's really challenging in ways other MMO's aren't. I agree if it goes the way of other MMO's then it loses it's luster to me like everyone else. That doesn't mean that CCP is trying to do that though. I think it's up to us to occasionally remind them what keeps us playing the game... and it's not OP ships.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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