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Mereea Lane
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:48:00 -
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I've spent a while training up skills to fly a raven well (like any other noob Caldari Ashura), and I just can't seem to tank well. I want to move to level 4 missions, but I know the tank won't hold out well. I'm currently fitting:
High:
6x Cruise Launcher II
2x Tractor Beams (I'm doing level 3s)
Mid:
1x XL Shield Booster II
1x Shield Boost Amplifier I
2x Invul II
1x Sensor Booster
Low:
3x BCU II
2x PDU II
My relevant skills are as follows:
Electronics 5
EM Shield Compensation 4
Energy Grid Upgrades 4
Energy Management 4
Energy Systems Operation 4
Engineering 4
Explosive Shield Compensation 3
Kinetic Shield Compensation 3
Shield Compensation 4
Shield Management 4
Shield Operation 5
Shield Upgrades 1
Tactical Shield Manipulation 4
Thermic Shield Compensation 3
Advanced Weapon Upgrades 4
Weapon Upgrades 5
Cruise Missile Specialization 4
Cruise Missiles 5
Guided Missile Precision 4
Missile Bombardment 4
Missile Launcher Operation 5
Missile Projection 4
Rapid Launch 5
Target Navigation Prediction 4
Warhead Upgrades 4
So as you can see, I really want to keep all those cruise II's on. I have one empty mid slot because of lack of cpu... So I know that is one spot for improvement. The budget to improve this character is 100 mil -- that's all I've got disposable right now. What do I do to stop sucking?
Thanks!
Mereea Lane
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Humpalot on 12/03/2007 15:52:09
Edited by: Humpalot on 12/03/2007 15:50:27
For missioning you will want to toss those Invul mods and replace them with hardeners best suited to the NPCs you will face. Here is a link that shows what rat types do what damage: http://www.evegeek.com/npc_damage.php
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Ms Freak
Amarr
NCN Corp
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:55:00 -
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Your setup seems fine apart from:
The sensor booster is reasonably useless, swap it for another hardener or come Cap Booster 800's and a HEavy Electrochemical booster.
And you should change your hardeners depending on the NPC's you are fighting, if they are all doing Em+Therm you might be better off with 1 Therm, 1 EM for example.
You might also want to consider dropping the 3rd BCU for a another PDU.
Rigs would be a wise investment, some cap rigs or hardener rigs would be quite appropriate.
Dont forget the drones!!
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.12 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 12/03/2007 15:55:29
You have the skill set to attempt most level IV's easily.
It's just a case of refining your setup.
high: 6 launchers (i use siege II myself), 2 whatevers (If you're using cruise you'll probably squeeze a heavy nos or a large smartie on.)
meds: XL-C5L shield booster, 2 shield boost amps, 3 race specific hardeners
lows: 3/4 pdu II's, 1/2 BCU II's.
Rigs: 3x CCC rigs.
Refer here to know what damage to tank: mission guide
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Nicholai Thomasovich
Caldari
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:03:00 -
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Like others said, ditch the sensor booster and go with specific hardeners. Drop the tractor beams for two Heavy Nos (best you can afford\fit). Keep a battleship or two alive to feed your Nos while you're running the missions.
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:54:00 -
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Yup, the only time you can get away with all-round hardners for pve tends to be 0.0 ratting, since they made bs ****e out there :)
sgb
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Sedai Hara
Caldari
The Forsakened Companions
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:23:00 -
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Alright, first of your skills are nice. so not that much problem with that.
This setup i have posted countless times (easy to search for old threads)
It can btw tank all mission i have come over. that include the evil DeD(concord) BLOCKADE, witch is a hard nut.
6x cruise missiles (Arbies ofc) 2xMedium laser beams, frig size(because lasers on a raven is cool!!!)
1x Xlarge SB II
4x T2 hards, 2 of ea<ch dmg type you are facing.
1x SB AMP II
4x PDS II
1x BCU II or a DCS II if i wanna tank some more(and if its not vengeance, hate the officers tank :P)
2x CCC rigs, 1x Explosion velocity rig.
5x Hammerhead II, 5x warrior II
No mission i have come over have been a problem, just last aprt of mordusheadunters can be hard, and DeD missions ofc.
 Originally by: Tuxford
Speed is fun and all but this is getting silly, yes we are addressing it, yes I have a blog coming about it.
2007-02-05 end of the nano-era |
Mereea Lane
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sedai Hara
Alright, first of your skills are nice. so not that much problem with that.
This setup i have posted countless times (easy to search for old threads)
It can btw tank all mission i have come over. that include the evil DeD(concord) BLOCKADE, witch is a hard nut.
6x cruise missiles (Arbies ofc) 2xMedium laser beams, frig size(because lasers on a raven is cool!!!)
1x Xlarge SB II
4x T2 hards, 2 of ea<ch dmg type you are facing.
1x SB AMP II
4x PDS II
1x BCU II or a DCS II if i wanna tank some more(and if its not vengeance, hate the officers tank :P)
2x CCC rigs, 1x Explosion velocity rig.
5x Hammerhead II, 5x warrior II
No mission i have come over have been a problem, just last aprt of mordusheadunters can be hard, and DeD missions ofc.
Thanks a lot everyone!
I'm definitely going to drop that sensor booster and get some rat-specific hardeners. My drone skills are what I'm working on right now (finishing drones 5 tonight). Besides that, would it seem worth it to train shield management 5 next so that I can use T2 Boost Amplifiers? Or are T1 good enough for now? Also as far as purchases go, should I set CCCs top priority right after rat-specific hardeners?
Mereea Lane
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Riho
Gallente
Red Wrath
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:03:00 -
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dont need xl booster to do missions :P
i have a pith large and a DG boostamp... and 4 t2 hardeners
2x pdu, 3x bcu
arba siege, heavy nos, large sb.
i can do all missions.... havent try the angle 6th stage.. i think its the only thing it cant tank.
Great being Gallente... aint it ?
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Viscount Hood
British Space Corporation
D-L
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:41:00 -
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True, you don't need an XL shield booster to run missions especially level 3, even most level 4's.
But if you find your run out of cap long before your run out of shield, then you should fit a large booster. Then vice versa for the XL.
C5-L emergency is fine.
Fit mission specific shield hardners. At least three.
Your last slot consider from the following options: cap booster, cap recharger, target painter, AB, additional shield hardner.
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:26:00 -
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If you want those T2 launchers with T2 tank be prepared to use something like a Co-Processor... Most people get a faction tank to be able to use T2 launchers with the ability to tank insane damage. I'd recommend Arbalest launchers, Co-processor and/or CL-5 shield booster (or faction) if you need better cpu.
3 specific hardeners is required and most times 4 is cool. If you have to tank then you don't need the sensor booster - fit something else...
Pinky
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Sedai Hara
Caldari
The Forsakened Companions
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:43:00 -
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Well atm in my raven i get 11k Hp from skills and 80ish resists (90 on exp and kinetic/thermal if i go hardcore) and tbh, with 5x PDS II, i hardly need to run my booster anymore. i just passive tank me through it all adn runs the booster "sometimes" when i feel i am in a dangerzone if i suddenly CTD and cant get out in time. (30% that would be)
but for the hard lvl 4s, i reccoemd you get a X-large, Large boosters are just for making those infinite-running shield tanks, that i (PERSONALLY) dont like. desnt got that sudden boost i love about the X-large ones ;).
Originally by: Tuxford
Speed is fun and all but this is getting silly, yes we are addressing it, yes I have a blog coming about it.
2007-02-05 end of the nano-era |
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