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Old Man Logan Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.08.13 07:41:21 - [1] - Quote Ok, so first off, so far my training has been towards Shields, Minmatar Ships & Projectile weapons. Currently I am at a loss about what ship to fly for L3 missions, as all the fits I have found is armor fits. Quite frankly my armor skills are horrible right now. What are my options? Train armor skills or somehow make one of the Battlecruisers work using shields. Edit: My drone skills are okay, however I have only trained light drones.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5142	Posted - 2016.08.13 08:01:37 - [2] - Quote Old Man Logan wrote: Ok, so first off, so far my training has been towards Shields, Minmatar Ships & Projectile weapons. Currently I am at a loss about what ship to fly for L3 missions, as all the fits I have found is armor fits. Quite frankly my armor skills are horrible right now. What are my options? Train armor skills or somehow make one of the Battlecruisers work using shields. Edit: My drone skills are okay, however I have only trained light drones. Shield Machariel with 800mm autocannons? It should crank through L3s fairly quickly... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Old Man Logan Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.08.13 08:22:01 - [3] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Old Man Logan wrote: Ok, so first off, so far my training has been towards Shields, Minmatar Ships & Projectile weapons. Currently I am at a loss about what ship to fly for L3 missions, as all the fits I have found is armor fits. Quite frankly my armor skills are horrible right now. What are my options? Train armor skills or somehow make one of the Battlecruisers work using shields. Edit: My drone skills are okay, however I have only trained light drones. Shield Machariel with 800mm autocannons? It should crank through L3s fairly quickly... Unfortunately that ship is not entirely within my means right now (Both ISK & SP). I can however afford either the Hurricane Fleet Issue or the Gnosis, both of which was suggested to me ingame.
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5143	Posted - 2016.08.13 08:26:46 - [4] - Quote Old Man Logan wrote: Unfortunately that ship is not entirely within my means right now (Both ISK & SP). I can however afford either the Hurricane Fleet Issue or the Gnosis, both of which was suggested to me ingame. I would tend to lean more towards the Gnosis, but definitely save up for the Machariel (you can carry it forward into L4 missions). I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Old Man Logan Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.08.13 09:22:27 - [5] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Old Man Logan wrote: Unfortunately that ship is not entirely within my means right now (Both ISK & SP). I can however afford either the Hurricane Fleet Issue or the Gnosis, both of which was suggested to me ingame. I would tend to lean more towards the Gnosis, but definitely save up for the Machariel (you can carry it forward into L4 missions). Thanks for the advice. Machariel is one of the mail reasons I chose to train Minmatar ships, it looks amazing. Could you possibly link me to the fit you were referring to so I can adjust my training if needed? I think until then I will give the Gnosis a try.
Tsukino Stareine Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found 1650	Posted - 2016.08.13 12:54:15 - [6] - Quote passive cane can do level 3s without much problem [Hurricane Fleet Issue, test] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN Afterburner II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP M 720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP M [Empty High slot] 720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP M 720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP M [Empty High slot] 720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP M 720mm 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP M Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I something like that and just make sure you're piloting away from targets to keep transversal low Obviously use t2 arty if you can
Nikea Tiber Backwater Enterprises RD 21	Posted - 2016.08.13 19:46:33 - [7] - Quote A BC will demolish level 3 missions. A large cap battery beam phantasm will also stomp L3s, and aligns and gates quicker, you have to manually pilot and occasionally pulse the shield booster so it is a bit busier than waiting for arties to cycle in a 'cane, or missile travel time with a drake. If you blitz L3s for standing repair, there is no better ship than the sleipnir if you have the skills and isk. 720mm arties one shell npc frigates, and rat BCs seldom take more than one volley. Between the availability of L3 agents and the number of storyline missions you generate, L3s are the way to go for standings repair/gain. You could run a mach since it is in the same price range, but large guns have a higher overhead cost and every L3 mission rat is beneath the sig resolution of your guns. my other nano is a polycarb
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 56028	Posted - 2016.08.13 23:22:51 - [8] - Quote Hurricane can do excellent shield fit and works great as a long range Arty boat in level 3 missions. Compared to the 720mm Arty's, the 650mm Arty's have better tracking, faster reload and use less powergrid and CPU for fitting. I use T2 munitions for easy selection in game play - Tremor (long range, less DPS), Quake (short range, more DPS) and Inferno Fury Heavy Missile (Thermal Damage) for all NPC's. Always maintain range from NPC pack and take out small hull class NPC's asap. Keep drones in reserve and launch onto EWAR Frigates that get under gun range. I ran Arty's split into 2 groups of 3 each. Missiles were not grouped to provide ease of use for various applications. Sometimes I'd assign 1 launcher to each group of 3 Arty's, other times I'd assign both launchers to a single target. I'd assign all weapons on tough large hull class NPC's. On some missions I even used Defender Missiles to help reduce incoming DPS from NPC missile attacks and for best results I'd stagger the activation of the launchers. Fleet Issue Tech 2 Fit Note : Fit up Stats are based on my skills in which most are maxed. I suggest using 3rd party app EFT (Eve Fitting Tool), import your character skills and do mock fit ups before investing ISK in-game. Anyway, hope this helps and good luck to you. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2756	Posted - 2016.08.14 11:07:18 - [9] - Quote For standing I used to blitz lvl3 with an Arty Svipul, very effective, make two gun groups to kill frigs faster. I'm my own NPC alt.
Gorr Shakor Shakor Freight and Mining Service 17	Posted - 2016.08.15 09:34:55 - [10] - Quote [Rupture, LvL3 Overkill] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II 10MN Afterburner II Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 25 Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium Shield Extender II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M Festival Launcher, Sodium Firework Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hobgoblin II x6

DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 56053	Posted - 2016.08.15 11:19:25 - [11] - Quote Yeah, Rupture is a good Cruiser, can fit up an excellent defensive shield tank. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Kitty Bear Harbingers of Chaos Inc Black Pearl Alliance 1565	Posted - 2016.08.15 12:41:43 - [12] - Quote General rule of thumb is - L1 Frigate - L2 Cruiser - L3 Battlecruiser - L4 Battleship Most of your other options are going to be more expensive Faction, Pirate Faction, Tech 2 & Tech 3 ships are all options With an Assault Frigate, L3's are easy and only a handful of L4's will cause problems What you train will also depend on your long term plan Just missioning ... look into Battleships & then Marauders Burner Missions .. PF Frigates & AF's, T3D's, HAC's etc Incursions ... PF Battleships, Logistic Cruiser and so on.
Vortexo VonBrenner Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 2414	Posted - 2016.08.15 19:03:09 - [13] - Quote regular Hurricane -> put savings towards Machariel EvE security zones in pictures EvE quick reference pdf A wise man sums up EvE Smoke me a Kipper...
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 1069	Posted - 2016.08.23 11:53:25 - [14] - Quote I assume L3s are mostly a transitory on your way to L4s!? If so Hurricane should do fine (really, any battlecruiser should do fine; also all kinds of T2 Cruisers do fine, I do them in an Ishtar) while you train skills and earn money for a battleship with which to run L4s. Once there get a Machariel, that one is pretty much mission endgame. It will also get you into Incursions (with a proper pimp fit), which are exponentially more fun than that mindnumbing missionrunning... Now with DAILY add-ons! Je suis Paris // Je suis Köln // Je suis Brüssel // Je suis Orlando // Je suis Nice // Je suis Würzburg, München, Ansbach // Je suis Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray Je suis [?]
Morgan Agrivar TriStar Market Solutions 423	Posted - 2016.08.27 01:15:59 - [15] - Quote Nerath Naaris wrote: It will also get you into Incursions (with a proper pimp fit), which are exponentially more fun than that mindnumbing missionrunning... Uh, what incursions have you been running? Instead of shooting what you want in L3 and L4 missions, someone else tells you to press the F1 on what they want you to shoot at. I would like for them to bring back the Drifter incursions just because the Incursion runners hated them and lost ships in them. Are incursions better for isk? Absolutely. Are they more fun than missioning? Uh, you are stretching it there, buddy. This would cure me of the fear... CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
Alexis Red Red Corporation 0	Posted - 2016.08.31 19:36:35 - [16] - Quote Gila, hands down is the best ship for a low skill player. Use Vespa Navy Drones (each will have over 8k hp) I rig it with a sensor booster, nav computer and two links to get out to 80k and the drones are fast. Just pay attention to the groups and kill them together or they'll be flying back and forth too much. Also you should send each drone on it's own target, since they're so powerful. Most any difficult level 3 where you're getting over 1000 LP is done in 10 minutes from station back to station., with only the 5 gate one taking about 15.


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