Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1481
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Posted - 2016.08.14 03:54:38 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:It's the community that's toxic...
That quote by a military man talking about the difference between a house being wrecked by weather and a house being wrecked by a bunch of scallywags is dumb.
(Incidentally, people used to blame God/s or 'spirits' for any mishaps, as they wrestled themselves out of the tarpits of magical and mythical thinking.)
Maybe you misread what he was trying to say, maybe it really was that dumb. The fact that in both situations a house was wrecked is incidental and in no way ties them together.
Get on SISI, sit afk in a belt far from the places where pvp is allowed. Maybe rats will asplode your ship. That's weather. Who cares?
Now put up a POS, some labs, maybe start up some moon mining, get into T2 manufacture.
You will be in a coma from boredom very quickly, you've built a sandcastle that no wave will ever push over and no scallywag is allowed to threaten.
That's because SISI is the test server and not EVE.
The whole value of anything done in EVE is that it's done DESPITE the odds against it. Sometimes working in concert with others. "Trust nobody" is the creed of wimps, the value of trust earned, given or granted is that there's consequences you care about if that trust is broken.
The community is not toxic, it's very human and the whining efforts to "fix" the toxicity stem from a lack of understanding that without the threat of Certain Doom and Total Failure there is no pressure to be good or evil.
Hisec barnacles are 'nice' to each other, which is a false front used by people who are afraid of being treated badly.
TLDR Hisec is eating people's minds.
Get out of hisec.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1491
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Posted - 2016.08.16 09:41:50 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:The problem is simple: what does a Miner get out of PvP? At best he gets away at worst he looses ship and cargo and pod. Does he even have a chance to get a kill? Nope, Concord gets the kill
The rookie pond mechanics are fine and don't need looking at. With Crimewatch, timers, safety buttons and bounties there are more consequences than ever for empire fighters of all stripes.
Geronimo McVain wrote:Just slaughtering miners may be fun for the tears but it doesn't really add something to the game. To be real fun hunting miners needs to be dangerous or else you can prey on asteroids yourself.
I met a guy in Tolle who'd been mining in hisec for five years when he wasn't doing missions or roams, he'd never seen Spodumain. Hisec lowbrow shenanigans encourage people to move out of the rookie pond and get real with intel channels and def fleets.
Using wormholes / blops/ spais to get at miners in null is dangerous and fun. Completely on another level.
The assumption that 'hisec forever' is a playstyle needs examining.
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