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Ded Akara
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2016.08.18 13:11:35 -
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So will the Mackinkaw see more use in hi-sec now that it has the best yield and is the best solo miner?
Skiff has 20% less yield on the base of it but if you factor in that a skiff can fit 3 yield modules in the lo slots and still have enough cpu to fit a strong T2 tank
Mackinkaw can still only fit two yield modules if you want to retain enough to cpu to fit any kind of tank. Like this the super tank yield fit Skiff only has 11% less yield than the Mackinkaw.
There's a serious imbalance in the CPU numbers of the barges. Either nerf Skiff CPU hard so it can't be yield fit and have a strong T2 tank or boost mackinkaw/hulk cpu so they can at least fit a half decent tank so they can survive 3 catalysts if properly fit.
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Ded Akara
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2016.08.18 22:21:11 -
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PLEASE PLEASE give the Hulk/Mackinkaw extra CPU or we're going to continue seeing 90% of miners in Skiffs. Skiff is the only barge that can fit max yield whilst having CPU free to fit a tank.
Mackinkaw + Hulk with 3 yields mods has no free CPU to fit tank mods. Even with just 2 yield mods they still struggle to fit much with such little CPU to use.
How is it right that a max yield Skiff with 3 yield mods can easily fit a full T2 tank, but a Mackinkaw or Hulk that has sacrificed one yield mod, (just 2 yield mod fitted) will struggle to fit tank modules? |
Ded Akara
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.22 20:39:12 -
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Kueyen wrote:Wayne Donne wrote:Retrieve/Mack: Medium Yield | Medium Tank | Unique : Capacity
Proc/Skiff : Worst Yield | Best Tank | Unique : DPS Sadly, it looks like the Retriever and Mackinaw have lost their role bonusses in the current build on Singularity (well, as far as I can tell, they never actually had the +25% yield role bonus listed in their Traits, but now it isn't even listed in there anymore). So now it'll continue the current "Worst yield" for Procurer, Retriever, Skiff and Mackinaw alike. Looks like CCP is struggling to find a valid role for them...
So the mackinkaw/ret will be just large cargo hold, gimp yield and easy to gank? Everyone is just going to continue using skiffs and those few who do use mackinkaws are quickly going to switch to skiffs. |
Ded Akara
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.03 15:04:07 -
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I inspected the new exhumer changes on the test server.
So the mackinkaw no longer has a role bonus? It looks very odd. Hulk and Skiff both have the role bonus attribute and the mackinkaw does not, like it's out of place and missing something.
So,
Hulk gets extra mining range, extra addiitional mining yield from basic bonuses and 25% yield boost from role bonus.
Skiff gets shield HP and small yield bonus from basic bonuses and 50% drone damage/hp from role bonus. (not to mention BS level hitpoints).
Mackinaw gets ore hold capacity and small yield bonus from basic bonuses and NO ROLE BONUS.
This only highlights how much the Mackinkaw sucks. Hulk now mines 30% faster than the Mack whist the Skiff mines faster than the Mackinkaw because the Skiff is free to fit 3x harvester/mining upgrades and still able to fit a sick T2 tank and not worry about ganking. The mackinkaw can only achieve this yield the skiff has if the mackinkaw fits 3x harvester/mining upgrades, but to do this, the mackinkaw has virtually no CPU left to fit some tank to the mid slots.
The triple mining upgrade fit mackinkaw with a 3% cpu implant has only 51.9 cpu left with all mid slots empty. That's enough CPU to fit 1 T2 harder and leave the other 3 slots empty. It's not even enough CPU for 2 faction hardeners, still leaving 2 slots empty.
Meanwhile the triple mining upgrade fit skiff can fit a full T2 tank, using all of its midslots. When you consider the skiff also has 3 times more shield, armor and structure hitpoints than the Mackinkaw and is also able to fit a full tank on a yield fit you can see why the Skiff is the far superior ship. (imbalanced).
Solution? Well the obvious solution is to give the Mackinkaw a good CPU boost so it can actually use it's slots without having to fit a co-processor. Alternatively you can decrease the CPU on the Skiff. Or a bit of both. I hear the Hulk suffers from the same CPU issues as the mackinkaw, so perhaps both of these ships need a CPU boost. |
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