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Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 8	Posted - 2011.12.21 12:29:00 - [1] - Quote Im Sat in work and wondering, could an active nano Deimos work? Or maybe even a Vigilant? Im thinking for a solo low sec roamer. I could see it being mean against a Drake with its huge Kin resists. For a more camping role can field max skilled booster alts. So that could be an option for you EFT warriors out there. Can this work? I have no access to any fitting apps in work. Can i see some example fits? Herm
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 226	Posted - 2011.12.21 15:20:00 - [2] - Quote http://aurora.evefit.org/fit/start?sgid=bdf6c874edc64dff83ea5d3158079ff2
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 8	Posted - 2011.12.21 16:29:00 - [3] - Quote Cant get it to work in my work
Hungry Eyes Ministry of War Amarr Empire 244	Posted - 2011.12.21 19:11:00 - [4] - Quote your probably thinking of something like this. Ishtar does well with a similar setup, but has more tank and less dps. the issue with dual rep HAC's is that theyre not really that fast, and a nano Cane could potentially catch you. [Deimos, solo] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Armor Explosive Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25 Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M 5W Infectious Power System Malfunction Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Valkyrie II x5
Alexa Coates LNTC 24	Posted - 2011.12.21 23:30:00 - [5] - Quote ^^ those are some of the worst fits i've ever seen. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships!
Liang Nuren Heretic Army 201	Posted - 2011.12.22 00:10:00 - [6] - Quote I tend to find the Ishtar is actually pretty extraordinary at this. There aren't a lot of other ships that can perma MWD at a good clip and still put out 400+ consistent DPS. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 359	Posted - 2011.12.22 00:17:00 - [7] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: I tend to find the Ishtar is actually pretty extraordinary at this. There aren't a lot of other ships that can perma MWD at a good clip and still put out 400+ consistent DPS. -Liang Lol@cap stability. And "consistent" dps implies drones don't get killed and blasters stay in range. Alexa Coates wrote: ^^ those are some of the worst fits i've ever seen. It's not the fit, it's the ship.
Liang Nuren Heretic Army 201	Posted - 2011.12.22 00:27:00 - [8] - Quote Goose99 wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: I tend to find the Ishtar is actually pretty extraordinary at this. There aren't a lot of other ships that can perma MWD at a good clip and still put out 400+ consistent DPS. -Liang Lol@cap stability. And "consistent" dps implies drones don't get killed and blasters stay in range. Alexa Coates wrote: ^^ those are some of the worst fits i've ever seen. It's not the fit, it's the ship. Please go look up the old nano Ishtar fits. They still work, and none of them had cap issues to speak of. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 359	Posted - 2011.12.22 00:38:00 - [9] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: Goose99 wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: I tend to find the Ishtar is actually pretty extraordinary at this. There aren't a lot of other ships that can perma MWD at a good clip and still put out 400+ consistent DPS. -Liang Lol@cap stability. And "consistent" dps implies drones don't get killed and blasters stay in range. Alexa Coates wrote: ^^ those are some of the worst fits i've ever seen. It's not the fit, it's the ship. Please go look up the old nano Ishtar fits. They still work, and none of them had cap issues to speak of. -Liang I agree those were good times, but there are different degrees of "still work."
Fronkfurter McSheebleton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2011.12.22 03:59:00 - [10] - Quote Active Deimos I could see, but not a nano. Armor reppers eat a lot of cap, but don't slow you down. Armor rigs slow you down, and don't help with the cap problem. A nano takes up a low slow that could otherwise be used for resists. So I say, use rigs to help with the cap/pg and mobility issues and leave the tanking to the low slots. Energy grid rigs have no drawback, and the armor amount penalty on astronautics rigs isn't as big of a deal on an active tanked ship. edit: This isn't optimal by any means, but you get the idea: [Deimos, Active] Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II N-Type Explosive Hardener I Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I Hobgoblin II x5 489dps before heat and drones, 1837m/s, 7.42s align time,
Herman Klaus Touched By Klaus 8	Posted - 2011.12.22 06:31:00 - [11] - Quote So, you have made a 'nano' fit that requires you to get in scram web range!
Brotha Umad Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2011.12.22 10:21:00 - [12] - Quote Herman Klaus wrote: So, you have made a 'nano' fit that requires you to get in scram web range! Requires EFT Interfacing IV.
Liam Mirren 38	Posted - 2011.12.22 12:47:00 - [13] - Quote Nano turret ships need their lows for damage mods and TEs, also nanoships tend to be shield tanked for obvious reasons so a turret based/nano/active armor tank combo simply won't work. The only viable way to make a Deimos work in a nano role (and actually fairly good) is by fitting it something like this, if you shield fit it it's already fairly "nano" but you could swap 3rd magstab for a nanofiber, personal preference. [Deimos, PVP shield] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
vorneus Hub2 15	Posted - 2011.12.22 12:51:00 - [14] - Quote Liam Mirren wrote: Nano turret ships need their lows for damage mods and TEs, also nanoships tend to be shield tanked for obvious reasons so a turret based/nano/active armor tank combo simply won't work. The only viable way to make a Deimos work in a nano role (and actually fairly good) is by fitting it something like this, if you shield fit it it's already fairly "nano" but you could swap 3rd magstab for a nanofiber, personal preference. [Deimos, PVP shield] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5 I've been testing out pretty much exactly the above on the test server and like it a lot. Personally I've found a 3rd TE instead of magstab yeilds better effective DPS. I also don't bother with hammerheads - they're only for EFT warrioring DPS numbers on a fit like this. I'm going to fly it solo, so 5 x Medium Vespa EC's for me. -Ed
Liam Mirren 38	Posted - 2011.12.22 13:00:00 - [15] - Quote vorneus wrote: I've been testing out pretty much exactly the above on the test server and like it a lot. Personally I've found a 3rd TE instead of magstab yeilds better effective DPS. I also don't bother with hammerheads - they're only for EFT warrioring DPS numbers on a fit like this. I'm going to fly it solo, so 5 x Medium Vespa EC's for me. -Ed TE instead of magstab gives slightly more dps at orbit ranges/speeds, mag stab gives more survivability due to higher dps would something grab you. Personal preference, both options make sense. ECMs can make full sense, it's just that some people dislike using them (or rather, having to fight against them) and apart from that due to fighting far into falloff the effectiveness of scout drones is much more than would you fight in scram range with antimatter. But ECMs can free you would you get scrammed. Personal preference, both options work. And yeah the ship performs fine in that role, it's quite agile if a bit undertanked. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
Cheshire Katt Tirpitz Innovations Deus Malus 2	Posted - 2011.12.22 13:25:00 - [16] - Quote Liam Mirren wrote: TE instead of magstab gives slightly more dps at orbit ranges/speeds, mag stab gives more survivability due to higher dps would something grab you. Personal preference, both options make sense. ECMs can make full sense, it's just that some people dislike using them (or rather, having to fight against them) and apart from that due to fighting far into falloff the effectiveness of scout drones is much more than would you fight in scram range with antimatter. But ECMs can free you would you get scrammed. Personal preference, both options work. And yeah the ship performs fine in that role, it's quite agile if a bit undertanked. Confirming that you should always take pvp advice from no-named forum alts with no killboard history.
Suleiman Shouaa The Tuskers 35	Posted - 2011.12.22 15:14:00 - [17] - Quote Kiting Drone boats don't work vs anyone decent, or if you're fighting a gang solo. To the OP, a Deimos without a plate is fast enough for this purpose. You will need to focus on tank in the lows rather than gank in order to be able to deal with common setups out there today. P.S. Perma running MWD Ishtar makes me chuckle.
Vanessa Vale Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2011.12.22 15:31:00 - [18] - Quote Cheshire Katt wrote: Confirming that you should always take pvp advice from no-named forum alts with no killboard history. "Ships, Modules & Ad Hominems"
Liam Mirren 38	Posted - 2011.12.22 15:41:00 - [19] - Quote Cheshire Katt wrote: Liam Mirren wrote: TE instead of magstab gives slightly more dps at orbit ranges/speeds, mag stab gives more survivability due to higher dps would something grab you. Personal preference, both options make sense. ECMs can make full sense, it's just that some people dislike using them (or rather, having to fight against them) and apart from that due to fighting far into falloff the effectiveness of scout drones is much more than would you fight in scram range with antimatter. But ECMs can free you would you get scrammed. Personal preference, both options work. And yeah the ship performs fine in that role, it's quite agile if a bit undertanked. Confirming that you should always take pvp advice from no-named forum alts with no killboard history. - is alt with nothing but losses If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives 138	Posted - 2011.12.22 15:43:00 - [20] - Quote Cheshire Katt wrote: Liam Mirren wrote: TE instead of magstab gives slightly more dps at orbit ranges/speeds, mag stab gives more survivability due to higher dps would something grab you. Personal preference, both options make sense. ECMs can make full sense, it's just that some people dislike using them (or rather, having to fight against them) and apart from that due to fighting far into falloff the effectiveness of scout drones is much more than would you fight in scram range with antimatter. But ECMs can free you would you get scrammed. Personal preference, both options work. And yeah the ship performs fine in that role, it's quite agile if a bit undertanked. Confirming that you should always take pvp advice from no-named forum alts with no killboard history. Oh, really? Perhaps you suggest we take advice from shiptoasting PVP failtards such as yourself? I love how people like this come out to brighten up my day! To the OP: Keep on touching! e: that character is either an alt by the look of things, or just really really crap...either way, I wouldn't shout around the forums hectoring others when you look this bad, fyi

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