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Posted - 2011.12.23 09:48:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
This is an excellent idea. At least, I thought so at first..... and then I thought about it,
And on second thought... it can be worked around and doesn't fix anything.
I place a sell order on the market for 1k worth of 1m isk items. WIth margin trading X, I have to put 250m in escerow, but I can place the minimum buy order at 250. I then buy 250 untis from myself, using some or all of the money I currently have in escrow. The min buy order is still 250. I then transfer all the money away from sell-order character, and we still have margin trading market scams. The only way around this, is to use the escrow money last, rather than first. But if its used last, then the order will still be immediately cancelled when the first buyer attempts to purchase said items and funds aren't available...
Hence, this is not a solution.
The only solution I can think of involves removing the minimum buy amount, or changing the minimum buy amount to be a percentage of the amount in escrow...
I don't get it. Margin traiding is for buy order or not? And if you say that at least the min buy order have to be in escrow it will fix the margin trading scam. If you have to put the money in escrow again after you bought something or the order will be closed. Or is there something i miss?
I don't think it works like you think it works. You only put money in escrow when you put up the initial order. In this system there is nothing preventing the scammer to be the first buyer making the anti scam measure pointless. If you implement the system in a way that it constantly checks wallets and sucks money out of them, it will create additional stress for the market servers and reduce the usefulness of margin trading for legitimate traders. Not to mention the constant drain of isk from your wallet will be annoying and make planning you isk usage more complicated. Afterall the system needs to check every buy order in the game everytime it has any activity and pull more money from the players wallet. It could be possible, but I don't think it's worth the cost and hassle. The additional stress, if it would even cause any, is a total non-issue compared to the inconvenience it causes though.
Lets look at the whole situation from the grand perspective. The current situation is actually pretty good. The scam does in no way negatively affect the larger game as it only works in a small margin of cases. It's also easy to spot and avoid by either knowing the market price of the items you're trading or looking closely at the buy orders. Even when the scam works it's just a case of someone buying an item for above the current market price, and let's be honest here, it only applies to traders and only to bad/greedy ones at that.
I'm sure there are ways to fix it, but every suggestion seems to be worse than the actual problem it tries to address. The scam is so minor and easily avoidable, that fixing it isn't worth inconveniencing legitimate traders in any way or reducing the usefulness of margin trading. |