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Strax Solaran
ElmDrizzEnd League
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:08:00 -
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I have a question, and no it isn't because I've had a few destroyed. Hear me out.
If I'm in a mission site, and someone smokes a drone I have deployed, it's aggro, right? What is an MTU, if not a drone performing a non-combat function? Furthermore, the person who destroys the MTU gets a kill, right? That being said, I think it should be aggro if an MTU is attacked.
I'm pretty flameproof, so I'm ready to hear all the folks who pad their numbers using MTUs to come at me.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
405
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:13:14 -
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Strax Solaran wrote:I have a question, and no it isn't because I've had a few destroyed. Hear me out.
If I'm in a mission site, and someone smokes a drone I have deployed, it's aggro, right? What is an MTU, if not a drone performing a non-combat function? Furthermore, the person who destroys the MTU gets a kill, right? That being said, I think it should be aggro if an MTU is attacked.
I'm pretty flameproof, so I'm ready to hear all the folks who pad their numbers using MTUs to come at me.
SS It depends on what your definition of aggro is.
Having quite the killboard in regards to killing MTUs, you do go suspect when you start firing at one, meaning anyone (and I mean anyone) can freely shoot at them. There are two types of MTU hunters: those who hunt abandoned ones and those who hunt MTUs in use by mission running carebears. I have tried the latter but no carebear has shot at me yet.
If you consider aggro as CONCORD coming to save the MTU, they won't. It isn't considered a criminal act to shoot at a MTU, whether in use or not.
Hope that helps...
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Strax Solaran
ElmDrizzEnd League
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:19:32 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Strax Solaran wrote:I have a question, and no it isn't because I've had a few destroyed. Hear me out.
If I'm in a mission site, and someone smokes a drone I have deployed, it's aggro, right? What is an MTU, if not a drone performing a non-combat function? Furthermore, the person who destroys the MTU gets a kill, right? That being said, I think it should be aggro if an MTU is attacked.
I'm pretty flameproof, so I'm ready to hear all the folks who pad their numbers using MTUs to come at me.
SS It depends on what your definition of aggro is. Having quite the killboard in regards to killing MTUs, you do go suspect when you start firing at one, meaning anyone (and I mean anyone) can freely shoot at them. There are two types of MTU hunters: those who hunt abandoned ones and those who hunt MTUs in use by mission running carebears. I have tried the latter but no carebear has shot at me yet. If you consider aggro as CONCORD coming to save the MTU, they won't. It isn't considered a criminal act to shoot at a MTU, whether in use or not. Hope that helps...
That actually does help. Being a mission-running carebear, I have yet to respond to anyone shooting/stealing/whatevering. I'm not crazy. haha
I actually didn't know someone who smokes an MTU goes suspect. Thanks for clearing that up. |
Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:24:24 -
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Strax Solaran wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Strax Solaran wrote:I have a question, and no it isn't because I've had a few destroyed. Hear me out.
If I'm in a mission site, and someone smokes a drone I have deployed, it's aggro, right? What is an MTU, if not a drone performing a non-combat function? Furthermore, the person who destroys the MTU gets a kill, right? That being said, I think it should be aggro if an MTU is attacked.
I'm pretty flameproof, so I'm ready to hear all the folks who pad their numbers using MTUs to come at me.
SS It depends on what your definition of aggro is. Having quite the killboard in regards to killing MTUs, you do go suspect when you start firing at one, meaning anyone (and I mean anyone) can freely shoot at them. There are two types of MTU hunters: those who hunt abandoned ones and those who hunt MTUs in use by mission running carebears. I have tried the latter but no carebear has shot at me yet. If you consider aggro as CONCORD coming to save the MTU, they won't. It isn't considered a criminal act to shoot at a MTU, whether in use or not. Hope that helps... That actually does help. Being a mission-running carebear, I have yet to respond to anyone shooting/stealing/whatevering. I'm not crazy. haha I actually didn't know someone who smokes an MTU goes suspect. Thanks for clearing that up. Yes, when I land on an MTU, whether it is being used or not, when I target it and unleash my guns I will start flashing yellow and anyone can shoot at me. Now people like Bumblefck and I are trying to get the mission runner angry and shoot at our ship, which in turn makes it so I can engage the mission runner in his PvE ship while I have my PvP ship on his juicy ship.
Sometimes it works but most times it does not. Luck of the draw.
This would cure me of the fear...
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Strax Solaran
ElmDrizzEnd League
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:31:51 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Yes, when I land on an MTU, whether it is being used or not, when I target it and unleash my guns I will start flashing yellow and anyone can shoot at me. Now people like Bumblefck and I are trying to get the mission runner angry and shoot at our ship, which in turn makes it so I can engage the mission runner in his PvE ship while I have my PvP ship on his juicy ship.
Sometimes it works but most times it does not. Luck of the draw.
Which is exactly why I don't engage you. haha It would take about 2 minutes and I'd be out of cap, tank disabled, dead in space, as I watched the sparks fly hoping I can warp my pod before you lock on. I'm new-ish at the game, but a 10m isk MTU isn't worth my 400mil + BS set up. :) |
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
551
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Posted - 2016.08.21 00:05:28 -
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You're smarter than a lot of folks out there. Congrats.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
406
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Posted - 2016.08.21 00:12:43 -
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Winter Archipelago wrote:You're smarter than a lot of folks out there. Congrats. I agree with this guy. Most people don't learn that lesson until it happens to them. I had to move to another area since everyone there knew who I was and why I was there.
Everyone warped away, much to my dismay.
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Omar Alharazaad
Nefarious Porpoise
3068
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Posted - 2016.08.21 01:21:41 -
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I managed to get a Rattlesnake bear to shoot my Ishkur this way the other morning. That was a LOT of fun. Bonused Geckos are monsters. He won, got some juicy bounty from me and some nice T2 loots. We chatted afterwards and both had a good laugh over it. Always nice to run into a good sport in the game.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
339
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Posted - 2016.08.21 01:25:43 -
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Strax Solaran wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Yes, when I land on an MTU, whether it is being used or not, when I target it and unleash my guns I will start flashing yellow and anyone can shoot at me. Now people like Bumblefck and I are trying to get the mission runner angry and shoot at our ship, which in turn makes it so I can engage the mission runner in his PvE ship while I have my PvP ship on his juicy ship.
Sometimes it works but most times it does not. Luck of the draw. Which is exactly why I don't engage you. haha It would take about 2 minutes and I'd be out of cap, tank disabled, dead in space, as I watched the sparks fly hoping I can warp my pod before you lock on. I'm new-ish at the game, but a 10m isk MTU isn't worth my 400mil + BS set up. :)
After you've rescued your... 100th? damsel in distress, you'll get bored enough to take a shot.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12862
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Posted - 2016.08.21 02:12:41 -
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Morgan and I aim to kill every goddamn MTU in the game
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
407
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Posted - 2016.08.21 02:33:07 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Morgan and I aim to kill every goddamn MTU in the game I love this guy.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3033
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Posted - 2016.08.21 03:01:09 -
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Were you aware that defenseless newbros sometimes get lost and accidentally shoot MTU's in incursus's? If you see this teach them a lesson and blow them away. helps with player retention
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
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Posted - 2016.08.21 12:05:14 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Morgan and I aim to kill every goddamn MTU in the game
Hells yeah.
And did you know that if the owner has a bounty, you can get a bit of it by killing the MTU?
You can also shoot mobile depots, but since they have a 2-day reinforcement timer......it just isn't as fun.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
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Posted - 2016.08.21 12:27:29 -
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I ended up getting one MTU in Umokka and warped in on a mission runner using another, but he surprised me by coming back and getting the MTU as it was in half structure. He had a Raven and I was in a 680 dps Gnosis.
Was sad that he didn't shoot at me, I would have wrecked his world since he was at 30% shields.
This would cure me of the fear...
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.08.21 12:47:54 -
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Very sad indeed :(
Is there no justice in this world
Won't someone think of the children
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Elliniel Anat'al'Ardon
Hallowed Antiquity
3
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Posted - 2016.08.22 08:37:53 -
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Come to nullsec. Plenty of MTU's lying around.
Unless you're scared of setting foot outside high-sec. |
Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
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Posted - 2016.08.22 09:05:01 -
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Elliniel Anat'al'Ardon wrote:Come to nullsec. Plenty of MTU's lying around.
Unless you're scared of setting foot outside high-sec. It isn't scared of setting foot outside of highsec, it is just I do not feel like getting blobbed by bored nullsec carebears at a gatecamp.
Though nullsec is the only place I haven't lived, I don't think any nullsec alliance/corp will take me because I refuse to give my API.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3033
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Posted - 2016.08.22 09:23:15 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Elliniel Anat'al'Ardon wrote:Come to nullsec. Plenty of MTU's lying around.
Unless you're scared of setting foot outside high-sec. It isn't scared of setting foot outside of highsec, it is just I do not feel like getting blobbed by bored nullsec carebears at a gatecamp. Though nullsec is the only place I haven't lived, I don't think any nullsec alliance/corp will take me because I refuse to give my API. You would be flat out getting into any serious wh or LS corp either tbh
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
410
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Posted - 2016.08.22 10:18:45 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Elliniel Anat'al'Ardon wrote:Come to nullsec. Plenty of MTU's lying around.
Unless you're scared of setting foot outside high-sec. It isn't scared of setting foot outside of highsec, it is just I do not feel like getting blobbed by bored nullsec carebears at a gatecamp. Though nullsec is the only place I haven't lived, I don't think any nullsec alliance/corp will take me because I refuse to give my API. You would be flat out getting into any serious wh or LS corp either tbh Well, currently I am bored with not much to do. Been thinking of wanting to do something else but not sure what...
This would cure me of the fear...
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3033
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Posted - 2016.08.22 12:32:54 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Elliniel Anat'al'Ardon wrote:Come to nullsec. Plenty of MTU's lying around.
Unless you're scared of setting foot outside high-sec. It isn't scared of setting foot outside of highsec, it is just I do not feel like getting blobbed by bored nullsec carebears at a gatecamp. Though nullsec is the only place I haven't lived, I don't think any nullsec alliance/corp will take me because I refuse to give my API. You would be flat out getting into any serious wh or LS corp either tbh Well, currently I am bored with not much to do. Been thinking of wanting to do something else but not sure what... I have something interesting starting in a few weeks
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1850
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Posted - 2016.08.22 12:43:04 -
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Elliniel Anat'al'Ardon wrote:Come to nullsec. Plenty of MTU's lying around.
Unless you're scared of setting foot outside high-sec.
Nullsec is boring.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
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Posted - 2016.08.23 00:51:49 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Elliniel Anat'al'Ardon wrote:Come to nullsec. Plenty of MTU's lying around.
Unless you're scared of setting foot outside high-sec. It isn't scared of setting foot outside of highsec, it is just I do not feel like getting blobbed by bored nullsec carebears at a gatecamp. Though nullsec is the only place I haven't lived, I don't think any nullsec alliance/corp will take me because I refuse to give my API. You would be flat out getting into any serious wh or LS corp either tbh Well, currently I am bored with not much to do. Been thinking of wanting to do something else but not sure what... I have something interesting starting in a few weeks Let me know then. I can wait...
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
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Posted - 2016.08.23 01:08:51 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Were you aware that defenseless newbros sometimes get lost and accidentally shoot MTU's in incursus's? If you see this teach them a lesson and blow them away. helps with player retention I did scan down someone who went suspect in a Heron (I believe) and popped both his ship and pod. The CEO asked in a private convo later on why I shot and killed his newbro and I told him what happened.
He laughed and then told me he will talk to his newbro about yellow wrecks. I did send the newbro isk to replace what he lost, to make it easier for the dude.
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.23 11:05:52 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Well, currently I am bored with not much to do. Been thinking of wanting to do something else but not sure what... Do what you did ... ... but pick up noobs to do it with you.
You know where to find them, or you'll have time to figure it out.
Give them simple roles, whatever it is, as long as they feel like they contributed. Assure them that you will cover their losses* if they want to. (not all want that)
Let them zoom around in a lvl4 using speedtanking frigates ... ... or lead them in a speedy frigate and fly through gorgeous enemy crossfire ... unharmed.
*(i blindly assume you have a couple of million you have no need for, as you actually hint at)
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
77
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Posted - 2016.08.25 12:58:07 -
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I had some nice Marauder kills before by going suspect shooting MTUs and them shooting at me.
I haven't done this in a long time though and not sure how someone having Stasis Grappler might change things.
Anyone came across and fought vs a missioning BS using grappler? I used to do standard sig/AB tanking but wondeirng if something like Vargur/Kronos with Grappler and their tracking bonus, or Golem with Grappler+TP may change things. Any experiences on this?
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Strax Solaran
Divine Demise
4
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Posted - 2016.08.28 14:13:54 -
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Woah! haha I didn't realize I had to select to receive updates on the thread. Sorry for being..... afk..... LOL
Good conversation on MTUs and why they aren't "protected." I appreciate the input. And someone pointed out that by the time I'm rescuing my 100th Damsel, I may just take the shot. I won't argue that. I can see where mission running may get boring after a while. Right now, I just don't have the isk to replace the potential loss of being more adventurous, which is why I'm running missions over and over. I do really want to get there. I'm being romanced by a Corp that wants to move back to NS, but I've not made up my mind. The game has a lot to offer, and running missions is, for me, a start. Once I am independently wealthy, I'll expand the experience. :)
Thanks again.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1853
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Posted - 2016.08.29 20:13:11 -
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You can run missions in nullsec, you know......
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Strax Solaran
Divine Demise
4
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Posted - 2016.10.23 18:17:23 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:You can run missions in nullsec, you know......
Coming from a guy who said
"Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)"
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2633
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Posted - 2016.10.25 15:19:48 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I managed to get a Rattlesnake bear to shoot my Ishkur this way the other morning. That was a LOT of fun. Bonused Geckos are monsters. He won, got some juicy bounty from me and some nice T2 loots. We chatted afterwards and both had a good laugh over it. Always nice to run into a good sport in the game.
This post is why I missed EvE, and....
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Were you aware that defenseless newbros sometimes get lost and accidentally shoot MTU's in incursus's? If you see this teach them a lesson and blow them away. helps with player retention
...this post may win the Internet today. I can't say way for fear of ruining it, but trust me, it's pure, 100%, unadulterated win in a bottle.
Relatively Notorious By Association
My Many Misadventures
A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
4503
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Posted - 2016.10.25 17:26:22 -
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They're designed this way on purpose because highsec doesn't have enough ways to initiate conflict between players.
They're not actually as good as conflict drivers as they could be, but CCP almost certainly won't ever update them because they don't actually care about that at all. |
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2634
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Posted - 2016.10.26 12:04:52 -
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Relevant to this thread: aggressing a Mobile Micro Jump Unit doesn't just turn you suspect, it will make gate guns start shooting at you and it will generate a killright against you.
Well, at least it did a year ago, not sure if it still does now.
Relatively Notorious By Association
My Many Misadventures
A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
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PI Tool1
Zemmpfff Inc.
0
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Posted - 2016.10.27 18:46:02 -
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Strax Solaran wrote: by the time I'm rescuing my 100th Damsel, I may just take the shot.
you REALLY dont want to initiate conflict whilst doing the damsel. https://zkillboard.com/kill/56701781/
was overjoyed looking forward to ransoming her back to the guy, but loot fairy took her. had a good chat and and no hard feelings afterwards, regardless
give it a go in a mission without a drop-off-item objective that is 55m or so to buy off contracts.
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Puar
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.10.28 01:53:29 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Strax Solaran wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Yes, when I land on an MTU, whether it is being used or not, when I target it and unleash my guns I will start flashing yellow and anyone can shoot at me. Now people like Bumblefck and I are trying to get the mission runner angry and shoot at our ship, which in turn makes it so I can engage the mission runner in his PvE ship while I have my PvP ship on his juicy ship.
Sometimes it works but most times it does not. Luck of the draw. Which is exactly why I don't engage you. haha It would take about 2 minutes and I'd be out of cap, tank disabled, dead in space, as I watched the sparks fly hoping I can warp my pod before you lock on. I'm new-ish at the game, but a 10m isk MTU isn't worth my 400mil + BS set up. :) After you've rescued your... 100th? damsel in distress, you'll get bored enough to take a shot.
Why is there not a fellow in distress to save? |
Morgan Agrivar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
604
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Posted - 2016.10.28 05:30:41 -
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Puar wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Strax Solaran wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:Yes, when I land on an MTU, whether it is being used or not, when I target it and unleash my guns I will start flashing yellow and anyone can shoot at me. Now people like Bumblefck and I are trying to get the mission runner angry and shoot at our ship, which in turn makes it so I can engage the mission runner in his PvE ship while I have my PvP ship on his juicy ship.
Sometimes it works but most times it does not. Luck of the draw. Which is exactly why I don't engage you. haha It would take about 2 minutes and I'd be out of cap, tank disabled, dead in space, as I watched the sparks fly hoping I can warp my pod before you lock on. I'm new-ish at the game, but a 10m isk MTU isn't worth my 400mil + BS set up. :) After you've rescued your... 100th? damsel in distress, you'll get bored enough to take a shot. Why is there not a fellow in distress to save? Cause definately no one would save him. You want to get your 'reward' from him?
Whatever floats your boat...
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