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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 14/03/2007 13:03:38
I just noticed new entries and values in the database, pertaining in particular to nosferatus:
entityShieldBoostDelayChanceSmallMultiplier
entityShieldBoostDelayChanceMediumMultiplier
entityShieldBoostDelayChanceLargeMultiplier
entityArmorRepairDelayChanceSmallMultiplier
entityArmorRepairDelayChanceMediumMultiplier
entityArmorRepairDelayChanceLargeMultiplier
...with varying values depending on the size and "quality" (T1, named, T2, etc.; diminishing and T2 have the same stats apparently)
Could that be CCP's nerf to nosferatus?
Apologies if it's been mentioned before.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:04:00 -
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Now that would be... interesting, to say the least 
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Bangoura
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:05:00 -
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Very interesting, could be a great way of doing it
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Darqion Zenix
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:06:00 -
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interesting.. wish i knew.. what all that ment :P
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Darqion Zenix
interesting.. wish i knew.. what all that ment :P
I think it's rather obvious:
entityShieldBoostDelayChanceLargeMultiplier
I bolded the important part.
My understanding is that using a nosferatu on a target implies a possibility that your shield booster (or armor repairer) may have a slower cycle. The other factors are the size of the nosferatu and the size of the shield booster or armor repairer.
Those values don't mention how much slower the cycle would be, just the chance that it will happen, though.
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Imechal Ravpeim
International Multi-Player Consortium
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:13:00 -
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That would mean fitting a nos could boost cap even more... slower repair cycles while nossing cap = happy capicitor. Would hurt tanking ability for short fights though.
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MrRookie
Caldari
Dark and Light inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:18:00 -
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More important they need to add the same for value for MWDs
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Polysynchronicity
Amarr
MASS HOMICIDE
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:26:00 -
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I imagine those values have something to do with the fact that NPCs are less likely to boost their shields or repair their armor while being NOS'd. These entries most likely apply to something already ingame, not some new, amazing way to nerf NOS.
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SasRipper
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:31:00 -
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not tht great so nano curse will a still pwn all 
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Polysynchronicity
I imagine those values have something to do with the fact that NPCs are less likely to boost their shields or repair their armor while being NOS'd. These entries most likely apply to something already ingame, not some new, amazing way to nerf NOS.
Yes, that makes sense, too... it's just that it never showed up in QuickFit until I updated to the new version a couple days ago, and I only noticed it today.
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Chronus26
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Polysynchronicity
I imagine those values have something to do with the fact that NPCs are less likely to boost their shields or repair their armor while being NOS'd. These entries most likely apply to something already ingame, not some new, amazing way to nerf NOS.
Think this seems more likley. I think the term 'entity' in DB entries usually refers to NPC 'entities'.
Still, interesting thing to consider.
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Vardemis
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26
Originally by: Polysynchronicity
I imagine those values have something to do with the fact that NPCs are less likely to boost their shields or repair their armor while being NOS'd. These entries most likely apply to something already ingame, not some new, amazing way to nerf NOS.
Think this seems more likley. I think the term 'entity' in DB entries usually refers to NPC 'entities'.
I agree, it most likely refers to NPCs, it seems to work as intended too, at least after a few checks.
Still, interesting thing to consider.
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Fallaize
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:19:00 -
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Looking at this from a PvP perspective I think it is a good move however this will not effect nanoships as they are all about speed.
It is also going to hurt some PvE setups that require a Nos on your ship to sustain your tank and I can see them becoming more Vital as we get Agent lvl 5 - 7 missions
I would like to see this implemented so If you have 1 Nos there is no effect but any more than one has a stacking increase to the delay to use your Shield Booster/armour Repairer
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Sebroth
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:47:00 -
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so let us boost passive tanks even more!!!!
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Pharos Dei
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:53:00 -
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ahh guys, stop dreaming...
this is nothing new whatsoever its just the effect on npcs if you nos them.. has been in for a long time and no "nerf" whatsoever..
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Alesandra
Caldari
CAS Technologies and Logistics
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Polysynchronicity
I imagine those values have something to do with the fact that NPCs are less likely to boost their shields or repair their armor while being NOS'd. These entries most likely apply to something already ingame, not some new, amazing way to nerf NOS.
This is also how I read it.... after all it saus "entity" which to my mind = "target"
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:25:00 -
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Those have been there...they are not new.
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:50:00 -
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Even if it was, we all hate chance rolls anyway :-D
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Dai Kyoko
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:29:00 -
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combine that with the suggested MWD nerf and you have got buggered nos/nano fittings.. which is basicly all the game needs
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:34:00 -
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Well, now that we've established that this isn't what I initially thought... it is indeed a decent idea to implement. It won't fix the problem with nanoships since they don't tank anyway (or hardly so), but it would be a step in the right direction.
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.14 17:11:00 -
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NOS are too much anyway. There should just be Neuts that use your cap and Neuts that kill half the amount but dont use any of your cap and thats that...
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ED Grubermann
Boot To The Head
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Posted - 2007.03.15 06:27:00 -
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yeah i'm still waiting for the nos nerf, so neuts will have some meaning...
and i still think they should include some "hardened electronics" items you could include in low slot, that would make all nos take 50-60% less cap from you.
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