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Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.14 19:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 14/03/2007 19:23:56 Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 14/03/2007 19:19:00 Made some major modifications to the guide and it has been improved significantly. Check it out: http://www.eve-caldari.com/isk.html Note to moderators: the link to the isk selling site has been removed, as you requested. CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com
Erfnam Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.14 19:31:00 - [2] Your guide is very outdated and this is obvious since many of the ships are fitted with dual MWD or AB. Seems like this is an attempt to make money through ads on the site. Blueprint Sales
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.14 19:39:00 - [3] Originally by: Erfnam Your guide is very outdated and this is obvious since many of the ships are fitted with dual MWD or AB. Seems like this is an attempt to make money through ads on the site. Ads? Whats wrong with dual MWD or AB? It works... CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com
Ash Vincetti Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.03.14 19:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Ads? Whats wrong with dual MWD or AB? It works... No, it doesn't. ----- /ash Fancy Sigs are for Fancy People
Captain Oat	Posted - 2007.03.14 19:46:00 - [5] Edited by: Captain Oat on 14/03/2007 19:44:50 Edited by: Captain Oat on 14/03/2007 19:44:32 Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: Erfnam Your guide is very outdated and this is obvious since many of the ships are fitted with dual MWD or AB. Seems like this is an attempt to make money through ads on the site. Ads? Whats wrong with dual MWD or AB? It works... AD's as in adverts not AB as in afterburners........ edit : and as the guy abpove has said..duel MWD and AB's dont work 1 MWD and 1 AB does work on same ship, but NOT at the same time "i'm popping outside and I may be some time...."
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.03.14 19:59:00 - [6] The only way to "train up" skills is... to train them, from the charsheet menu. And you never get a single (extra) SP for "doing" something. EVER. _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.14 20:01:00 - [7] Originally by: Akita T The only way to "train up" skills is... to train them, from the charsheet menu. And you never get a single (extra) SP for "doing" something. EVER. You used to though. "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.03.14 20:02:00 - [8] Good job ripping off someone else's work, without giving them credit and trying to pass it on as your own without even verifying the validity of the old article Wait... aren't you the guy that wanted to sue D2 alliance cause you accepted a courier mission from someone in a D2 station and couldn't dock in there. I recall you launching complains with D2's website's ISP 'Nuff said, not the brightest bulb == Above comments are my personal views Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
oDDiTy V2 Epic.	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:19:00 - [9] Moron alert!
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:31:00 - [10] Here comes the wind-up... and the pitch... Ooooh! A total failure! The crowd certainly didn't like that one, that's for sure... Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Artthana Minmatar Acme Technologies Incorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:34:00 - [11] Dude if you are going to plagiarize someones work, at least make sure it is current.
Ash Vincetti Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:46:00 - [12] Originally by: hydraSlav Good job ripping off someone else's work, without giving them credit and trying to pass it on as your own without even verifying the validity of the old article I 1st noticed the guide and the obvious plagarism in this thread. just a bit of digging around has netted the following jewels: the 1st section, titled "Some FAQ's on Ship Selection, Fitting and Combat " is from Mike D's Eve Personal Reference and Tools, specifically, his "PvP Tips" That's a word-for word copy. 2nd Section, dealing with Skills, is a Direct copy of Eve Offline's Skill Guide (which is terribly outdated) the 3rd section, on corporations, is copied from the "Eve Online Ultimate Guide" (i could not find an author, or another reference to this anywhere else), specifically, pages 19-21. (which in itself, is a guide you can purchase on E-Bay) From this same guide, comes a lot of the other sections as well (mining guide, corporation security, etc) This is with about 10 minutes and google. Should I continue? ----- /ash Fancy Sigs are for Fancy People
Estel Arador Minmatar AFK	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:53:00 - [13] =AFK=
Sgt Napalm Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:56:00 - [14] Awful. I hope the server DIAF.... --- [Video] Skool of Harpy - Da Blarpy
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:08:00 - [15] Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 14/03/2007 23:05:44 Originally by: hydraSlav Good job ripping off someone else's work, without giving them credit and trying to pass it on as your own without even verifying the validity of the old article Wait... aren't you the guy that wanted to sue D2 alliance cause you accepted a courier mission from someone in a D2 station and couldn't dock in there. I recall you launching complains with D2's website's ISP 'Nuff said, not the brightest bulb LOL! You took that seriously? God, you're dumb. I did e-mail their provider just to be a jerk, however. Yeah, a lot of it is copied and pasted. Since the game rights belong to CCP and I stated that at the start of the guide, I'm not in any copy right violations. So, technically there is NOTHING the origional author can do about it. Meaning I can freely distribute it to folks! CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com
Anthal Order's Chaos FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 14/03/2007 23:05:44 LOL! You took that seriously? God, you're dumb. I did e-mail their provider just to be a jerk, however. Yeah, a lot of it is copied and pasted. Since the game rights belong to CCP and I stated that at the start of the guide, I'm not in any copy right violations. So, technically there is NOTHING the origional author can do about it. Meaning I can freely distribute it to folks! Might wanna read up on these two links: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use Essentially, you are violating copyright law, whether the sources were noted as being copyrighted or not.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Anthal Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 14/03/2007 23:05:44 LOL! You took that seriously? God, you're dumb. I did e-mail their provider just to be a jerk, however. Yeah, a lot of it is copied and pasted. Since the game rights belong to CCP and I stated that at the start of the guide, I'm not in any copy right violations. So, technically there is NOTHING the origional author can do about it. Meaning I can freely distribute it to folks! Might wanna read up on these two links: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use Essentially, you are violating copyright law, whether the sources were noted as being copyrighted or not. I emailed the origional author with intent, and it was sorted out, so... I'm pretty much set. CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:32:00 - [18] Edited by: arkarsk on 14/03/2007 23:28:10 your website is useless edit: worthless ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com
RaWBLooD	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:38:00 - [19] loose leaf binder and makes notes? whats wrong with memory?
Anthal Order's Chaos FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 23:41:00 - [20] Edited by: Anthal on 14/03/2007 23:38:26 Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Since the game rights belong to CCP and I stated that at the start of the guide, I'm not in any copy right violations. So, technically there is NOTHING the origional author can do about it. Meaning I can freely distribute it to folks! <snip> Quote: I emailed the origional author with intent, and it was sorted out, so... I'm pretty much set. I see Edit: Misplaced the bold tag
CrestoftheStars Deviance Inc	Posted - 2007.03.15 00:31:00 - [21] who said you couldn't have to much time on your hands O.o :P Originally by: Ash Vincetti Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 14/03/2007 22:19:17 Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 14/03/2007 22:15:13 Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 14/03/2007 22:00:27 Originally by: hydraSlav Good job ripping off someone else's work, without giving them credit and trying to pass it on as your own without even verifying the validity of the old article I 1st noticed the guide and the obvious plagarism in this thread. just a bit of digging around has netted the following jewels: edit: I noticed you swiped your links around, what used to be your "Fabulous" guide, is now named "Eve Guide" and has been moved here: clickeh - The expose below refers to that site. the 1st section, titled "Some FAQ's on Ship Selection, Fitting and Combat " is from Mike D's Eve Personal Reference and Tools, specifically, his "PvP Tips" That's a word-for word copy. 2nd Section, dealing with Skills, is a Direct copy of Eve Offline's Skill Guide (which is terribly outdated) the 3rd section, on corporations, is copied from the "Eve Online Ultimate Guide" (i could not find an author, or another reference to this anywhere else), specifically, pages 19-21. (which in itself, is a guide you can purchase on E-Bay) From this same guide, comes a lot of the other sections as well (mining guide, corporation security, etc) This is with about 10 minutes and google. Should I continue? more edits: ... and it seems that your "Isk making guide" is a straight copy (again, word for word), from the mmorpg exchange "Fabulous ISK Maker" guide. Funnily enough, googling for your thread title nets NOTHING but "Isk" adverts. Also note that Everything in your guide is pre-revelations, especially the scanner guide. ___________________________________________ if eve had This kind of control system combinet with it's SP and advanced weaponry system it have. http://sco.gpotato.com/
Jei'son Bladesmith Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium	Posted - 2007.03.15 01:02:00 - [22] The only thing I can say is....pffffffft *☼☼☼ Confidence keeps you alive...cockiness will get you podded ☼☼☼*
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.15 01:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: Erfnam Your guide is very outdated and this is obvious since many of the ships are fitted with dual MWD or AB. Seems like this is an attempt to make money through ads on the site. Ads? Whats wrong with dual MWD or AB? It works... It's almost effective as putting on that 8th damage mod. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.15 01:21:00 - [24] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Edited by: Strel Samodelkin on 14/03/2007 23:05:44 Originally by: hydraSlav Good job ripping off someone else's work, without giving them credit and trying to pass it on as your own without even verifying the validity of the old article Wait... aren't you the guy that wanted to sue D2 alliance cause you accepted a courier mission from someone in a D2 station and couldn't dock in there. I recall you launching complains with D2's website's ISP 'Nuff said, not the brightest bulb LOL! You took that seriously? God, you're dumb. I did e-mail their provider just to be a jerk, however. Yeah, a lot of it is copied and pasted. Since the game rights belong to CCP and I stated that at the start of the guide, I'm not in any copy right violations. So, technically there is NOTHING the origional author can do about it. Meaning I can freely distribute it to folks! You need to learn copyright laws, not knowing them doesn't save you when you're breaking them. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari Nationalist Party	Posted - 2007.03.15 18:39:00 - [25] Meow! CEO Caldari Nationalist Party http://www.eve-caldari.com
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.03.15 18:54:00 - [26] Edited by: Wylker on 15/03/2007 18:51:22 Heres the deal, distribution of copyrighted material without express consent of the original author violates US (and in most cases international) Copyright Law. Specifically sections on the rights of the copyrighter: Quote: Several exclusive rights typically attach to the holder of a copyright: * to produce copies or reproductions of the work and to sell those copies (including, typically, electronic copies) * to import or export the work * to create derivative works (works that adapt the original work) * to perform or display the work publicly * to sell or assign these rights to others In essence, you violate copyright law simply by denying the rights of the original author to distribution. More importantly to CCP, is the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) which was enacted on Oct 8, 1998. To quote wikipedia: this act Quote: criminalizes production and dissemination of technology whose primary purpose is to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works and criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, even when there is no infringement of copyright itself. In essence, by providing a launchpoint for the dissimination of copyrighted material, CCP is liable for suit. Bottom line, I'd remove this thread and warn/ban the OP from trying his misguided attempts at making money from your playerbase again. -Wylker
Robbie Boozecruise Caldari Eve Defence Force Pure.	Posted - 2007.03.15 19:55:00 - [27] Edited by: Robbie Boozecruise on 15/03/2007 19:53:13 Originally by: Strel Samodelkin The Megatron can also hold 6 Heavy Combat Drones in addition to the Harvesters. I use them as Decoys sometimes because it seems the NPCs go after them first allowing me to escape. This is a technique that allot of players use when Ninja Mining or Solo mining in an unsecured belt. wow that is so old that is pre RMR also checked the links at the bottom the informaton is so old it is using www.eve-i.com as a link that shut down back at the start of cold war. great job cut and pasting the worst guide in history
Qalten Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2007.03.15 20:22:00 - [28] Quote: (from "guide") I use a Megatron for my mining ship. I wasn't aware we could use Transformers to mine asteroids. Was that in the last patch? Seriously, though. Ripping off someone's work, despite it being outdated and misspelled, is bad karma. As is being an arse about it when called out. ~
Ash Vincetti Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.03.15 20:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Meow! adds to list As is non-constructively bumping a thread when you realize that nobody cares about it and it has dropped to page 3 ----- /ash Fancy Sigs are for Fancy People
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.03.15 20:45:00 - [30] You could AT LEAST make the effort of getting ACTUAL (up-to-date) and ACCURATE guides instead of that absolete, worthless pile you have hosted there. There's nothing wrong with a site hosting guide collections, as long as you get approval from the author (or get no reply at all), list who made the guide, link to where you found it, and say when it was last updated. But your site currently does none of the above. Guides are absolete in a bad way, and you make them look like your own work. _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained

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