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Revolution Rising Minmatar Venture Research and Resources	Posted - 2007.03.15 09:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Revolution Rising on 15/03/2007 09:18:28 Edited by: Revolution Rising on 15/03/2007 09:17:45 I would love to know how to fit some tanking, ecm and some beam lasers on this ship with mediocre skills ... ;) My Current Ignorant build is: 2 650mm howitzer I's Drone Range Augmentor. 2 Cap rechargers (named). 1 ecm (racial) 10MN Afterburner. medium inefficient repper. 2 x 400mm tungsten plates. voltaic nanite adaptive membrane I. It works "ok" but i'd prefer the beam lasers for no-ammo and they already do EM damage which I need against sanshas. Help appreciated. For drones I run 5 light ecm, 10 warrior I's for ratting or 5 infiltrators for PVP. RR CEO Venture Research and Resources. VRR Homepage
backstep	Posted - 2007.03.15 09:54:00 - [2] Edited by: backstep on 15/03/2007 10:00:20 Technically, I think you couldn't win anyone with your lack dps. You definitely need something to brake enemy's tank which like Medium Nosferatu. And Cap Rechargers won't work well, Drone Link also not necessary. Top of the all, you couldn't tackle anything. If they want to get off from your range, they can do that. It is pretty serious problem I think. I recommend you this general setup. Maybe it works better, maybe not. High 2x medium nosferatu 2x small nosferatu Nosferatu makes enemies' tank gone. Cap is gone, tank is gone Medium 1x 10mn microwarpdrive(only use to approach closely and quickly) 1x stasis webifier 1x 20km warp scrambler 1x tracking disruptor(it really does it's job, extremely useful, and ecm mod as you want) Low 1x medium armor repairer 2x energized adaptive nano membrane 1x damage control Drones x5 Light, x5 Medium with your choice This setup will work only in PvP situation especially against other cruisers and frigs. If you want against Sansha rats, whatever you fitted it's ok Just put Cap Rechargers instead of tackle/ecm mods(web, scrambler, td and so on...)
Revolution Rising Minmatar Venture Research and Resources	Posted - 2007.03.15 10:41:00 - [3] Thanks for reply. I think I might try this after DT with the nos, then just let drones do work eh ? RR CEO Venture Research and Resources. VRR Homepage
Misanth	Posted - 2007.03.15 10:43:00 - [4] I use arbi alot for pvp and generally using setups similar to what backstep suggested. The nosses is great, both a defensive as well as an offensive tactic - and with a setup similar to what she suggested you'd come pretty well prepared/experienced for the recons (Curse, Pilgrim) as well.
Imechal Ravpeim International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.15 10:44:00 - [5] Use hobgoblins and hammerheads... Amarr drones are the worst you could possibly use. And you really only need mediums for ratting. Can't see why you'd use 10 of the same light drone when you can only release 5.
Revolution Rising Minmatar Venture Research and Resources	Posted - 2007.03.15 10:49:00 - [6] Edited by: Revolution Rising on 15/03/2007 10:47:09 When ratting, you lose 1, you don't want to go dock just to get back to 5 drones... If someone comes on me while ratting, I bring in the combat drones, loose the ecm drones and ecm them, lock broken - warp. RR. CEO Venture Research and Resources. VRR Homepage
Revolution Rising Minmatar Venture Research and Resources	Posted - 2007.03.15 13:03:00 - [7] Edited by: Revolution Rising on 15/03/2007 13:02:10 I tried it and quite like this build, what's the point in having a DCU and not another adaptive plating? I went with an ECM at the moment - works nicely against cruiser sized ships and hacs - but will look for a less cap intensive module I think. However I have specced for ecm but I find once their cap runs out - so does yours. I haven't found much use for the tracking disrupters so far as I don't move real fast ;) Comments, objections? :) RR. CEO Venture Research and Resources. VRR Homepage
Revolution Rising Minmatar Venture Research and Resources	Posted - 2007.03.15 13:40:00 - [8] Replying to myself. Build is now: 2 medium named nos. 2 small nos. 20k scram. 2 x webs. 10mn mwd. medium inefficient rep. dcu 2 x voltaic nanite adaptive membrane I. 5 warrior I's. 5 valkyrie I's. 2 webs allows me to turn the mwd off for any inty's while the drones pull their wings off. Thanks for comments all who did. RR. CEO Venture Research and Resources. VRR Homepage
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.15 14:00:00 - [9] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 15/03/2007 13:57:19 1600 plates on arbies have consistently served me well over the last three years. Use TDs and Damps rather than ECM for EW support on an arbitrator. 5 medium drones and 5 light drones seems to be the most efficient drone load for pvp in my experience. Undersized turrets and nos tends to be the most efficient highs. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Vaine Amarr Amarr Upright Citizens Brigade	Posted - 2007.03.15 14:37:00 - [10] Arbitrator Solo PvP: High: 2x med nos 2x Small neut Mid: 1x 10MN AB II 1x web 1x scram 1x TD Low: 1x med repper II 2x hardeners 1x Damage control Arbitrator gang PvP: High: 2x med nos 2x small neut Mid: 1x 10MN AB II 1x ECM 2x TD Low: 1x med repper II 2x hardeners 1x damage control __________________________ It's great beeing Amarr, ain't it?
backstep	Posted - 2007.03.15 18:19:00 - [11] Edited by: backstep on 15/03/2007 18:17:51 Quote: I tried it and quite like this build, what's the point in having a DCU and not another adaptive plating? Damage Control increases your survivability pretty much. It gives great resists on your structure and little resists on your shield and armor. It doesn't matter with PvE, but matter with PvP because in PvP basically you have only one chance to fight. If you enter to engage with other player, structure is NOT useless hp anymore! You have to use all of resources whatever your ship has. Dead or Alive, without DC or with DC! Hard structure will make you winner
Almarez	Posted - 2007.03.15 20:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Revolution Rising Edited by: Revolution Rising on 15/03/2007 13:02:10 I tried it and quite like this build, what's the point in having a DCU and not another adaptive plating? I went with an ECM at the moment - works nicely against cruiser sized ships and hacs - but will look for a less cap intensive module I think. However I have specced for ecm but I find once their cap runs out - so does yours. I haven't found much use for the tracking disrupters so far as I don't move real fast ;) Comments, objections? :) RR. The EANM is stacked and to be honest you probably get more from the DCU than a third EANM.
Taipan Gedscho Perkone	Posted - 2007.03.15 20:18:00 - [13] Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim Amarr drones are the worst you could possibly use. And you really only need mediums for ratting. Can't see why you'd use 10 of the same light drone when you can only release 5. the templar being the exception here Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today!

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