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Vel Kyri Carebears need to die	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:00:00 - [31] Edited by: Vel Kyri on 17/03/2007 16:59:25 Remember how people used to chain smartbomb npc's as they spawned in the belts and made billions of isk, and they got banned from eve for it. This is exactly the same, everyone knows a 10/10 complex shouldn't be respawning 5 or 6 times a day, Red Alliance especially know this, they are the so called complex masters afterall, but they don't care, they see it as something they can milk for 100s of billions of isk every month and they know, or at least they hope, that they won't get banned over it, they didn't last time. Then again the amount of isk they made from the cheat would be enough to buy back thousands of EVE characters so even if a handful of them got banned it wouldn't even matter, they would have still profited from it. I'm going to be honest, CCP just need to remove static complexes from EVE, they unbalance the game and give great power to the very few who control them.
boogaboob Caldari BIG Advanced Assault Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:03:00 - [32] Do you have any proof? If not, then shut up. If so, then petition it rather then make a useless thread on the forums with some random alt. Signatures done by me! Evemail me! Anyone? No? Aww...
Vel Kyri Carebears need to die	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:04:00 - [33] Originally by: boogaboob Do you have any proof? If not, then shut up. If so, then petition it rather then make a useless thread on the forums with some random alt. Yes, if you want proof, find the 10/10 complexes with RA alts in local all day/night, add wreck to overview, keep scanning, you'll eventually see the wreck of the last overseer pop up, every 4 hours this will happen.
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:08:00 - [34] Its no point dude. In (eve)politics its NEVER cheating if its your friends/side doing it. Opposite goes for when opponents. Ofc you have 2 groups of people working in this. The ones that lead and knowingly advocate this (usually the leaders) and then the blind followers :)
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:09:00 - [35] Edited by: Shirei on 17/03/2007 17:06:35 Originally by: Vel Kyri Yes, if you want proof, find the 10/10 complexes with RA alts in local all day/night, add wreck to overview, keep scanning, you'll eventually see the wreck of the last overseer pop up, every 4 hours this will happen. If you have proof, then congratulations. You can now make a petition. If that petition is successul and CCP actually decide what you are complaining about is an exploit and ban a few people, then you can start a gloating thread on the forum. If they decide what you are complaining about is not an exploit or is not happening, then tough luck for you. Fortunately for everyone else, random forum alts are not who decides, who is exploiting in EVE.
Vel Kyri Carebears need to die	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:11:00 - [36] Edited by: Vel Kyri on 17/03/2007 17:08:36 Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 17/03/2007 17:06:35 Originally by: Vel Kyri Yes, if you want proof, find the 10/10 complexes with RA alts in local all day/night, add wreck to overview, keep scanning, you'll eventually see the wreck of the last overseer pop up, every 4 hours this will happen. If you have proof, then congratulations. You can now make a petition. If that petition is successul and CCP actually decide what you are complaining about is an exploit and ban a few people, then you can start a gloating thread on the forum. If they decide what you are complaining about is not an exploit or is not happening, then tough luck for you. Fortunately for everyone else, random forum alts are not who decides, who is exploiting in EVE. Maybe you think you have some kind of greater power for deciding what is and is not an exploit then? Fortunately for everyone else, EVE has people like me who will discover these major exploits and blow the lid on the people who are abusing it.
MaidMarion FarCry Inc Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:12:00 - [37] Originally by: Vel Kyri Infact no wait, they don't rerun the whole thing, usually, they'd rather just sit in the last level killing the final overseer every 4 hours for his X-Type mods and 23rd overseer effects, but that's not cheating is it? 10/10 complexes that are supposed to only be runnable twice a day being runnable 5 or 6 times a day, no, they are innocent, surely? None of them got banned after their old 8/10 exploits a few months back and none will get banned now, i have no faith in CCP. CCP has known about them for along time. If CCP hasnt fixed em yet, maybe they dont wanna fix em at all.. That would move em from exploit to feature. How bout a novel idea .. remove all plexes from game except exploration sites.
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:13:00 - [38] Originally by: Vel Kyri Maybe you think you have some kind of greater power for deciding what is and is not an exploit then? I don't. CCP does. Noone else. Which is why these complaints should be addressed at CCP.
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:13:00 - [39] Edited by: Djerin on 17/03/2007 17:15:05 Petition them and stop wasting our lifes making us read this. Originally by: Cipher7 Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
LeviUK hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:14:00 - [40] To answer the original question - because they are the lesser of two evils IMO.
Vel Kyri Carebears need to die	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:16:00 - [41] Originally by: LeviUK To answer the original question - because they are the lesser of two evils IMO. I don't agree, at least bob let people use their space, and their complexes, for a small fee. Red Alliance won't even give that option, the complexes MUST be ran by Red Alliance and their alts.
Vel Kyri Carebears need to die	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:19:00 - [42] Originally by: MaidMarion Originally by: Vel Kyri Infact no wait, they don't rerun the whole thing, usually, they'd rather just sit in the last level killing the final overseer every 4 hours for his X-Type mods and 23rd overseer effects, but that's not cheating is it? 10/10 complexes that are supposed to only be runnable twice a day being runnable 5 or 6 times a day, no, they are innocent, surely? None of them got banned after their old 8/10 exploits a few months back and none will get banned now, i have no faith in CCP. CCP has known about them for along time. If CCP hasnt fixed em yet, maybe they dont wanna fix em at all.. That would move em from exploit to feature. How bout a novel idea .. remove all plexes from game except exploration sites. I don't think you even know what complex i am talking about. Remove static complexes from EVE - The best thing that could ever happen to EVE, i would seriously celebrate in real life.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:21:00 - [43] Everyone knows eve is buggy as hell and full of metagamers, cheats and sploiters from every side and pretty much every major group which is why I and most other people I know are just killing time in eve and trying to have some fun while waiting for the next decent MMO to come out. Dont worry about it, just see what else is coming up that you fancy and hope they dont make the same mistakes that ccp has. .
Strategos Banned Society	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:23:00 - [44] Originally by: Vel Kyri I need a life. I totally agree. CCP is well aware of the accusations of more bugged complexes and they know if it's true or not. Now, until said time when CCP decides to do anything about it, if they decide to do anything about it, they will. Mods must be sleeping in late today after a long night of drinking. ---Sig--- *WARNING* Do not look at my portrait for more then two seconds or it will jump out at you and kill you DEAD!
Vel Kyri Carebears need to die	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:24:00 - [45] Edited by: Vel Kyri on 17/03/2007 17:21:42 Originally by: Strategos Originally by: Vel Kyri I need a life. I totally agree. CCP is well aware of the accusations of more bugged complexes and they know if it's true or not. Now, until said time when CCP decides to do anything about it, if they decide to do anything about it, they will. Mods must be sleeping in late today after a long night of drinking. An EVE player telling someone to get a life, oh the irony! Also you are wrong, CCP do not know about this, i am certain of that, maybe after this thread they will though.
Ty'derian ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:26:00 - [46] Originally by: Vel Kyri Considering that Red Alliance and their farmer alts like to exploit insanely bugged complexes, and i'm not talking about the past. do you mean they do the same thing like BOB in their 100x plexes in delve, fountain paragon souls, querious an esoteria ?
Raivi Explosion Matrix	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:26:00 - [47] Edited by: Raivi on 17/03/2007 17:23:09 The best players in this game simply take the game mechanics that they have been given, and work within them. If complexes are changed, then RA (and BoB and all the other alliances with extensive 10/10 control) will simply adapt. If aggression timers are changed, then BoB won't be able to use the same trick as last time to kill a titan, but they'll just adapt and do something else. Every game world has rules, and until the devs change those rules or explicitly declare a tactic an exploit, there will be people taking advantage of those rules. RA isn't any different from BoB, or any other group who look at the game rules they are given and play accordingly. Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum
Beyond Horizon Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:27:00 - [48] Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 17/03/2007 17:26:04 Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 17/03/2007 17:25:01 There is no black & white, there are a group of people who work irl in EVE, farming isk 24\7 and selling it on ebay. Those are the true game spoilers and evil ones =( And I'm talking absolutely about anyone who is doing it, be it korean, chinese, russians or americans... This is a game and should stay that way, get a job, if you can't - don't spoil other peoples' fun. -
Raivi Explosion Matrix	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:29:00 - [49] Originally by: Vel Kyri Also you are wrong, CCP do not know about this, i am certain of that, maybe after this thread they will though. If CCP doesn't know about an exploit, then PETITION IT. Otherwise you're just a useless troll dragging unsubstantiated rumors without the guts to post with your main. Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum

Sahwoolo Etoophie Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:30:00 - [50] Thread locked. It is not constructive to reopen this thread the third time now, so to reiterate: if you are aware of someone exploiting, petition it, but exploits are not to be discussed on the forum and neither are cheating allegations. Please don't open anymore threads about it or we'll be forced to issue more warnings to you which might lead to the suspension of your posting priviledges. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website

Vel Kyri Carebears need to die	Posted - 2007.03.17 17:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Ty'derian Originally by: Vel Kyri Considering that Red Alliance and their farmer alts like to exploit insanely bugged complexes, and i'm not talking about the past. do you mean they do the same thing like BOB in their 100x plexes in delve, fountain paragon souls, querious an esoteria ? No i don't i'm afraid, bob have never farmed broken overseers all day and night in 10/10 complexes that respawn every 4 hours.

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