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Beta Maoye
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Posted - 2016.09.18 06:35:45 -
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Eve is an open world with many possibilities in gameplay. One's playing style should match his personality. One will not have fun playing someone else's style if it doesn't fit how he think. Only the player himself know what fits him.
One thing should bear in mind is that EVE is a PVP game at all levels of gameplay - player against player, corporation against corporation, alliance against alliance, coalition against coalition. Sometimes players have their own bias or agenda. Advices from players should be taken with a grain of salt. |

Xzar Fyrarr
Vanishing Act
8
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Posted - 2016.09.19 02:56:18 -
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The best advice I got as a New Player was to Just Play and Have Fun.
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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1299
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Posted - 2016.09.19 11:25:53 -
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Josh Sharvas wrote:Just from me (a moderately inexperienced player who has made the same mistakes over and over), to all the up and coming newbies of Eve Online - Especially for when the clone states kick in.
1. DO NOT apply with any player run corporation for a while. No matter how well intentioned they are or how willing they are to teach you. You will find yourself war dec'd by HiSec griefers like Marmite Collective and so on and you will be unable to do much in the game except hide away all the time. 2. DO NOT apply with a nullsec corp for a while either. Not only for the same reason above, but if you have low skill/training, low ISK and so on you're not going to find this game fun. You will feel useless and trapped and without a market in nullsec and will be at the mercy of higher ranking members. Basically, you're cannon fodder. Again, no offense to them and no matter how well intentioned they are. 3. Consider sticking with an NPC corp until you have at least 50 - 100 mil ISK and can fly a cruiser at 4 or 5 mastery [EDIT: Or maybe not as much but when you're comfortable] before considering any of the above. That means doing missions, exploring, mining (If it must be done), industry etc... and getting well acquainted with the game. Do not rush to nullsec or rush into PvP. NPC corps cannot be war dec'd so this reduces griefing chances in HiSec to all but those who want to suicide gank you. 4. If you do want PvP experience early on, consider Faction Warfare instead. Use it as a learning path also. 5. Learn how to evade gate camps and traps as quickly as possible. Lots of YouTube, google links etc... to research. Use a shuttle where necessary and don't put your good ships at risk unnecessarily if you need to fetch a small market item a few jumps away. 6. As the old saying goes, fly what you are prepared to lose. In fact, consider whatever you are undocking as lost already. So check your ISK budget before undocking. It is the same as playing an FPS - you will die frequently and you will respawn again, except in Eve you lose a lot more. 7. Finally don't frustrate other players by asking questions that are covered by tutorials and career agents already. Besides - you will want to do the career agents for all the free ships and goodies you get via them anyway.
The rest will come naturally as you learn the game (i.e. Ship fitting, The Market, Working with the overview etc...). And you can still learn a lot through NPC corps, forums, YouTube and trial/error without relying on some muppet in a player corp to train you :P
If you don't follow my advice, well then either you're one in a thousand or you will quit the game soon after. Do not listen to the more experienced players [EDIT: If there's a chance they are not well intentioned - but otherwise everyone else here thinks this is generally bad advice so scratch that], they may still tell you to join X corp as soon as possible coz they has cookies and that this is all BS :) But you will learn ;) And they went through all this when the rules/environment was a little different so what do they know :P
Cheers.
EDIT: Many have disagreed here with valid reasons so read through and decide. This is just from one newbie having gone through the process a few times to others. Some players like to dive into the deep end immediately so if that's you then go for it. Just consider changing your situation if you no longer find it enjoyable or have joined up with the wrong corp before you decide to quit Eve. If you do happen to find a great corp early on or join up with personal friends then go with it. And if you do find a well intentioned seasoned vet then by all means take his/her advice.
or you might just go out there to nullsec and shoot a goon
Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
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Satchel Darkmatter
Massive Dynamic inc. Care Factor
16
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Posted - 2016.09.19 11:49:09 -
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As a newer player Id also like to contribute some of what I went through.
- Exploration, Exploration which will use a Frigate in my case the Magnate, this requires some skills but not many and can be done in High Sec and the first few low level wormholes relatively safely for a really nice Isk Payout, exploring will also help you learn how to avoid hostiles, sure you might lose some ships but you will learn the the isk from one or two exploration sites will more than pay for your losses.
- Missions Run Missions until your able to run the level 3's and actually handle them without to much trouble, this will help train you in the basics of combat, its not PVP but the basics skills you will pick up running missions will be aplicable to PvP later on, things like learning where your orbit range should be set, learning about different damage types and damage mitigation options.
- Mine Seriously do some mining, when your low on Isk its one of the quickest safest ways to get some money in the bank to buy your next ship, its not as rewarding as Exploration or Mission running but its a hell of a lot safer, just don't do it in a hub system.
Once you can do the missions at level 3 and you have done some exploration and felt what its like to be in lawless space then you are ready for Null and a corporation, your next decision is picking just how you want to enter null.
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
243
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Posted - 2016.09.20 18:26:30 -
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I contest 1 & 3
Try out for a player corp, just do your research first! I've never had war dec problems.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3346
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Posted - 2016.09.20 18:50:31 -
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I've been playing for over 10 years. The best thing I did was join a pirate noob/training corp 3 months in. If I had it to do again I would have joined 2 weeks in. There's no faster way to learn the game than to join a group that knows what they are doing and are willing to teach you. I've heard a lot of good things about Eve University and Red vs Blue. I would advise any new player to check those out as soon as you've done some of the basic tutorials. |

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
508
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Posted - 2016.09.21 17:03:00 -
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Josh Sharvas wrote:Just from me (a moderately inexperienced player who has made the same mistakes over and over), to all the up and coming newbies of Eve Online - Especially for when the clone states kick in.
you're just not playing long enough to be giving advice. +1 for effort but wrong in so many ways.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6411
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Posted - 2016.09.21 17:39:37 -
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As a 7+ year veteran, my biggest regret is not having joined a larger active corp that does many things, including PvP, early in my EvE career.
Note that I consider myself an industrialist first, but that doesn't preclude PvP participation in my mind, i.e. I won't start a fight, but I will help in any way I can to end them.
I heartily recommend joining one of the larger PvP corps, if only for a short time, so you can at least discover for yourself what you enjoy doing. Keep in mind there are a lot of corps in EvE, including a lot of bad corps, and there is no requirement that you stay in a bad corp. |

Blade Darth
Room for Improvement Limited Expectations
66
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Posted - 2016.09.21 20:27:13 -
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Sticking to a npc corp and play "solo" for weeks is probably the worst a new player can do. Even if the only thing you can do is fly a t1 frig/ venture, it's gonna be 100x as much fun in a player corp.
HS wars are not wars in the first place and losing a t1 frig on jita undock does not hurt as much as losing a 4b Iteron or a 45b officer fit idiot "endgame" Caldari Navy Raven later in the game. Better learn early. |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
4435
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Posted - 2016.09.21 20:30:27 -
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This is literally the worst advice thread I've ever seen.
It's like a guide on how to have a terrible, boring experience and then quit. |

Manadh Agarsador
Crimson Reliquary
2
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Posted - 2016.09.21 21:45:28 -
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A wardec is a wonderful opportunity to learn how to die with grace.
Flying what you can't afford to lose is a wonderful way to learn how to generate isk fast.
Null sec is a great place to learn how dangerous high sec is (and how you should be wary anytime you see anyone).
Faction war is an excellent way to trash your security status and take up the manly man's pursuit of piracy.
But stay out of wormholes. There is nothing but death there and certainly nothing of value.
Do not stubbornly rebel against the ways of the world. Do not mindlessly follow the ways of the world. Think lightly of yourself and think deeply of the world. You can abandon your own body, but never let go of your honor. Miyamoto Musashi, Dokkodo
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
577
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Posted - 2016.09.21 22:21:58 -
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Manadh Agarsador wrote:But stay out of wormholes. There is nothing but death there and certainly nothing of value.
You're crazy. WHs are the Mad Max world in EVE. It's the best part of the game. |

Manadh Agarsador
Crimson Reliquary
2
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Posted - 2016.09.22 07:24:30 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Manadh Agarsador wrote:But stay out of wormholes. There is nothing but death there and certainly nothing of value. You're crazy. WHs are the Mad Max world in EVE. It's the best part of the game.
No, its super boring, don't listen to her. Nothing of value in a wormhole.
Do not stubbornly rebel against the ways of the world. Do not mindlessly follow the ways of the world. Think lightly of yourself and think deeply of the world. You can abandon your own body, but never let go of your honor. Miyamoto Musashi, Dokkodo
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Morgan Agrivar
Divine Bovine Security Services
530
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Posted - 2016.09.22 11:05:07 -
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It is part of the Opportunities that you MUST go into a wormhole.
Have to finish that, don't you?
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
183
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Posted - 2016.09.22 11:20:06 -
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Manadth must be joking or has interests in keeping population out of WH space.
Apocrypha expansion was the last truly innovative and awesome expansion during my time in EVE. That was one of the most memorable moment in EVE for me. A new unknown space where anything goes (except cynos and supers and titans, which one could argue is a good thing), unconquerable via any mechanic, only dominatable through active player presence and force, no local, it was just amazing.
Toobo is a lucky talisman - use Toobo's referral for IWI and you too can be lucky. ;)
Programers/Designers Wanted
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Josh Sharvas
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2016.10.09 16:00:56 -
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For the first time I am actually enjoying this game every time I log on. This particular character is a little over a month old now. I don't play actively (As in every day) as I'm pretty busy so I'm more of a weekend warrior. I can't believe I never before figured out how missions actually work. Can you believe that after a year I never knew how the standings system worked and how many missions to run before storyline and what the purpose of that was? All because I was always trapped doing corp related stuff before :(
So now I'm figuring it all out and enjoying the process :) and once I get into decent ISK earnings to support myself I can join the militia, or try SOE, or exploration or decide to get into more dedicated player corps again. Even if it all goes wrong I simply did it my way without interference and that is the point! - particularly for a player who can't spend every single evening playing this game, vis-a-vis the majority at this age bracket I assume.
One thing I will say is that if a new player does require the handholding of a corporation early game - don't be scared to join up at all but be equally confident to thank and leave them if things aren't working out or if you need to try new things again. That's also part of the problem I admit I had which was "feeling bad" for leaving a corp. |

Josh Sharvas
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2016.10.09 16:52:34 -
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Looks like other players on these forums have similar concerns regarding random wardecs in HiSec which was partly one of my frustrations here as well.
I will say this - I believe the logic and attitude by which the general Eve community (Not all) approaches / backlashes this issue is disheartening to me. Those threads are soon locked and referenced to some sort of preconceived general consensus on the matter that is just not satisfactory.
The, "Oh Eve is meant to be dangerous bla... bla..." rhetoric. Yet I fail to see the actual immersion creating substance (Which is kind of important for me as a gamer) behind a random illogical wardec whereby a small corp has to up and move all their assets away from major trade hubs to stay safe just because, "That's how Eve works and it is oh so dangerous and look at me hardcore player" and "If you don't like it move or...".
*sigh - I want to scream, "YOU BLOODY FOOLS THAT IS NOT THE POINT!" Haha :) Most players I'm sure accept the dangers of Eve and welcome it with open arms - if genuinely warranted and immersive and not illogical.
I will however take some solace in that the issue now appears to have been recognized and there might be some changes coming in this regard - i.e. cost or risk for wardec. My one long stretch suggestion (Needs more thought I will admit) is to further open up Eve to PvP - which is quite counter intuitive mind you. But I won't get too much into that here :) |

Minabunny
Dread Guard
70
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Posted - 2016.10.09 16:57:36 -
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What makes you think alpha clones will bring in any new players to begin with? |

Josh Sharvas
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2016.10.09 17:00:26 -
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Minabunny wrote:What makes you think alpha clones will bring in any new players to begin with?
Oh that is just a hope not a certainty for me :) And worst is if it only works short term.
I have 2 or 3 gamer friends I've advertised the Alpha Clone thing to who say they will now check it out but this is just a personal experience. |

Crux Ashmore
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.10.10 18:41:49 -
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I think the most crucial lesson learned, is never give advice on the Eve Forums. |

Welisa Aldent
The Minmatar Yakuza
2
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Posted - 2016.10.11 10:20:35 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:I have another advice: dont take advice from anybody, they may set you up for trap or scam you! Just explore the game on your own and have fun being killed and scammed nonetheless.
Thats the way i took when started eve  Best way of learning |

Nerodon
Back Breaker Battalion Hell's Pirates
4
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Posted - 2016.10.11 19:39:07 -
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When I started, I was told to train my learning skills (Circa 2006) before doing anything else. Granted that was a stupid system and we are all glad it's gone. But I didn't feel like subbing after my trial... Felt like it would take too long before I would actually have any fun in eve. That's because some people had created arbitrary "Must haves" for almost any activity in the game.
At the early stage, player interaction has been my biggest incentive to subscribe after my second trial. I liked the people I met, I wanted to play with them more! The social aspects of Eve are probably the most deterministic of the fun you will have. Any new player can feel good if part of a team, no matter how small and new they are. By trying to match up to their peers, they will learn very quickly, and that makes good eve players.
The message should rather be more geared to some more veteran corps to be patient and attentive to new players and teach them all that they too can join the great eve family without having to reach a predefined set of X millions of SP. |
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