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Gustav Kreed
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Posted - 2007.03.19 06:44:00 -
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Mission running aside, are destroyers viable in pvp? And of course, fighting anything above a frig, maybe a cruiser or two or is it just smtg for ppl to use on the way to a cruiser? To me, it seems frigs/cruiser/bc/bs all have some role to play in pvp. But it seems nobody uses destroyers to fight at all. I know they are relatively weak but then so are frigs, and frigs are useful as tackling and can even dish out damage in AF's. Where is the destroyer's place in battle?
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2007.03.19 06:46:00 -
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Destroyers - Frigpoppers.
Interdictors - Specialized blockade-laying abilities.
The problem is that destroyers are almost as big as cruisers for the purposes of getting hit, but don't generate near the damage. I suppose they'd have a nice role as a tackler-killer, but realistically no one uses them because the pilot is much better utilized in a larger ship. Interdictors are used, of course, but only really because no one else can fill their role.
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Deva Blackfire
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.19 06:49:00 -
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Dessys? suckish
Interdictors? Even if they removed bubbles from them i would use sabre to pwn other ceptors - its just soooo good :)
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Trracer
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.19 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: Trracer on 19/03/2007 09:27:04
 Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Dessys? suckish
Park a t2 fitted arty-thrasher at your favourite friendly gatecamp and rack up frig and podkills like crazy. Don't get hit tho, you'll go pop quick.
My comments does not reflect the opinions of my alliance yadi yadi...
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Miss KillSome
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Posted - 2007.03.19 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Miss KillSome on 19/03/2007 09:36:23
Edited by: Miss KillSome on 19/03/2007 09:35:54
cormorant with 7x 75mm rails II with AM is brutal against frigs and intercepotors..
Have a mwd on, web, scram and passive shield module in mids and cap relay in lows.
I've poped so many c(o)cky inty pilots who tought that they are uber with their 12km/s ships..every inty pilot will come close to u to at least bump u or web u..that is your main time to dish dmg. When he is close, just put a web on him, u'll gain 3 more seconds, that almost 2 salves of 7x 75mm rails.
If he tends to orbit u at 19km, just reload with spike and he'll flee away..
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mematar
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.03.19 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Trracer
Edited by: Trracer on 19/03/2007 09:27:04
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Dessys? suckish
Park a t2 fitted arty-thrasher at your favourite friendly gatecamp and rack up frig and podkills like crazy. Don't get hit tho, you'll go pop quick.
My comments does not reflect the opinions of my alliance yadi yadi...
Quote for the ****in truth! Thrasher is the best anti-frig/ceptor platform out there :P
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Tovran
Kinda'Shujaa
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.19 09:52:00 -
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A tech 2 fitted 75mm cormorant is lots of fun for in close frigate/support destruction. Essentially I think of them as a "super" frigate as it tackles as well as most frigate but deals atleast twice the DPS. Also, the cormorant can be made into an amusing 100km range support popper when fitted up with some 150mm tech 2s and spike. To top it off pretty much no matter what you do, fitting this ship is dirt cheap, and tends to be effective for it's cost.
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Jon Draconus
Just-fun
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.19 11:06:00 -
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I like mine for anti frig/drone work. Nothing better then watching a Nos Mrym crap hmiself cause you blew through his drones.
Originally by: Wrangler
- We will kill one minmatar baby, on the hour, every hour... and maybe an extra one if we get hungry!
Ah, brings back memories of my family BBQ's.
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Kur'Dekaija
Atomic Heroes
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:59:00 -
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don't forget they work well as a salvaging ship 
but yeah 150mm t2 fitted cormorant works well as a frig/pod popper. I also like t2 blaster fitted catalyst with mwd. Can do great dmg to cruisers who don't use missiles as primary dmg output or don't fit a web :)
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Bronson Hughes
Caldari
Knights of the Wild
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:27:00 -
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Destroyers are viable in PvP so long as they are used for their intended purpose (anti-frigate work) and there is a need for that purpose to be filled. People who use destroyers in PvP as a 'light cruiser' are usually disappointed.
When I was just starting EvE, a friend of mine explained to me what Interceptors and Interdictors do:
Interceptors tackle ships, Interdictors tackle fleets
As long as there is a need to keep groupd of ships from going somewhere, there will be a need for Interdictors.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:59:00 -
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Interdictors are the most important ship to have in any fleet. Its the only way to dictate the flow of the battle and hold your enemy where you want him.
Destroyers are awesome disposable gun ships. Most of them have very high burst damage and awesome tracking along with quick lock. This makes them the best close range anti-frig ships in the game. Great fleet support.
Shamis
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Still Hart
Aurora Medical Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Interdictors? Even if they removed bubbles from them i would use sabre to pwn other ceptors - its just soooo good :)
QFT. Interdictor (okay the Sabre mostly) used without the bubble is a mean MEAN ship. I tend to use mine as a heavy stiletto...something can tackle (even without bubbles) like nobody's business but can dish out SERIOUS damage.
Destroyers...it's all been said. Arty thrasher, even full T2 is very cheap and very good at popping frigs and pods.
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gazarsgo
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:49:00 -
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It's a shame the Eris has such a gimped hardpoint layout, because if it shared the design from the Cormorant (7 turret highs) it would easily be in the same league as the Flycatcher and Sabre.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: gazarsgo
It's a shame the Eris has such a gimped hardpoint layout, because if it shared the design from the Cormorant (7 turret highs) it would easily be in the same league as the Flycatcher and Sabre.
The Flycatcher isn't that hot against 'ceptors to be honest. Standard missiles and rockets don't have the explosion velocity to do the damage, and precision missiles completely nerf your top speed, so that inty you were firing at is out of your range in about 3 seconds.
Sabre is uber tho. Must be why it costs 30mil. 
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Originally by: Foopadoo
Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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gazarsgo
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.19 18:10:00 -
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The Flycatcher is slightly worse (not nearly to the extent you seem to describe...) than the Sabre at anti-inty duties, in exchange for being better against cruisers. I'm always jealous of not having to worry about tracking in a small ship, but never enough to give up my Sabre :)
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Shirow Miyazaki
Amarr
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.19 23:53:00 -
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The heretic just looks the damn coolest though, and has 8 highs 
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