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DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.19 15:52:00 - [1] Originally by: Patch Notes Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values. Errr WTH... 1. Armor reppers aren't exactly overpowered. 2. The Shield Boost stacking penalty is wrong to start with (it requires cap allready), the stacking nerf should be on the Shield boost Amplifliers instead of on the Shield boosters because that is what is making shield boosting overpowered. 3. There are no Armor rep Amplifiers in game (cept for rigs). 4. Armor tanking is more dangerous then shield tanking to start with (only structure to rely on after armor is gone versus both armor and structure). 5. This undoes the capital ship love that was given for capitalships relying on armor tanking. 6. Armor reppers don't need a stacking penalty because of the amount of cap required to run them (same goes for shield boosters). 7. If you are going through with this nerf then fix our Snakes to be inline with crystals as well... 8. What happened with the idea of prolonging battles? 9. This makes shield tanking >>>>>>>> armor tanking. 10. If you are going to go ahead with this then double the amount of armor repped per armor repper. Bottomline: UNNERF Shield booster stacking nerf and Armor repping nerf and NERF Shieldboost Amplifiers. ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Mithrass	Posted - 2007.03.19 15:56:00 - [2] hahahah. oh, you're serious
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.03.19 15:56:00 - [3] I only need 1 point. 1) The nerf is to Armour rigs only. Have a nice day. "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein Member of the [UTSFAH] corp.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.03.19 15:56:00 - [4] Bottom line, you fail at EVE mechanics. Highlights: 2. stack nerf IS on boos amps and boost amps only 3. yes they are they're called aux nano pumps and that's what's getting a stack nerf 6. shield boosters and armor repairers don't have and WON'T have any stack nerfs when used in dual/triple setups _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Celeste Coeval I only need 1 point. 1) The nerf is to Armour rigs only. Have a nice day. Errrr, not according to the patch notes it is... It's listed under Modules not under rigs. ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Celeste Coeval I only need 1 point. 1) The nerf is to Armour rigs only. Have a nice day. Wrong. Nowhere in the patch notes does it say this will affect rigs only. In fact, this bit is listed under "Modules", not "Rigs". The MODULES are getting stack nerfed, get it? This is a BAD thing. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:02:00 - [7] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Celeste Coeval I only need 1 point. 1) The nerf is to Armour rigs only. Have a nice day. Wrong. Nowhere in the patch notes does it say this will affect rigs only. In fact, this bit is listed under "Modules", not "Rigs". The MODULES are getting stack nerfed, get it? This is a BAD thing. tell me i'm wrong on patch day. "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein Member of the [UTSFAH] corp.
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:03:00 - [8] This post has come up a million billion times over the past few days. And it is confirmed by people testing that this is only affecting the rigs. Shield boosters aren't stacking nerfed when used together, so dual reppers aren't either. The problem CCP is addressing is the huge power of having two rep amount rigs, where as the shield boosting rigs are stacking nerfed, at the moment the armour ones aren't. CCP are changing this and only this, it's just CCP have worded it badly in the patch notes and have forgotten to change it. --- ---
Primus Terminus	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:03:00 - [9] Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values exact quote from patch notes nothing mentioned about rigs so far as i see
Jarjar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:05:00 - [10] 1) Search (www.eve-search.com 2) Go to SiSi and try it out 3) Stop posting about this non-issue GOSH!!! </napoleon> "In Communist China ISK buys YOU!!" - random bio
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Akita T Bottom line, you fail at EVE mechanics. Highlights: 2. stack nerf IS on boos amps and boost amps only 3. yes they are they're called aux nano pumps and that's what's getting a stack nerf 6. shield boosters and armor repairers don't have and WON'T have any stack nerfs when used in dual/triple setups Err dude... 2. Will need to test it, not what i read about it. To be honest I never played around with shield tanks much being pure Gallente. 3. You are listing a RIG not a module, i was referring to modules (see op saying Exzcept Rigs). 6. Not what the patch notes say. ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Chewan Mesa Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:08:00 - [12] Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 19/03/2007 16:06:38 Originally by: DrAtomic Errrr, not according to the patch notes it is... It's listed under Modules not under rigs. Originally by: ReaperOfSly Wrong. Nowhere in the patch notes does it say this will affect rigs only. In fact, this bit is listed under "Modules", not "Rigs". The MODULES are getting stack nerfed, get it? This is a BAD thing. Originally by: Primus Terminus Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values exact quote from patch notes nothing mentioned about rigs so far as i see Lets try this again... It has been tested! And people stated this in this topic already, so for the sake of it, why do you keep insisting? Armor Repairer do not stack on SiSi, the patch notes are slightly misleading, but it refers to rigs boosting the armor rep amount, which will be stacking nerfed after the patch.
Jarjar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:09:00 - [13] The patch notes are always right, then. Lets see who is right when the patch hits, shall we? "In Communist China ISK buys YOU!!" - random bio
Fork Boy	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:09:00 - [14] Originally by: Primus Terminus Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values exact quote from patch notes nothing mentioned about rigs so far as i see .. and your starter question for 10 points. Q) How are shield boost values stacking nerfed? A) It's only shield boost amplifiers, not the boosters themselves that have stacking penalties. Therefore nerfing armour repping the same way as shield repping should give a clue what's going to happen. You could always go and verify this on Sisi if you're still worried. ================================= A fork is a cold, shiny tool To pierce, tear and ingest. Whoever has the fork in hand Controls the meal of their choice.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:09:00 - [15] Originally by: DrAtomic Originally by: Akita T Bottom line, you fail at EVE mechanics. Highlights: 2. stack nerf IS on boos amps and boost amps only 3. yes they are they're called aux nano pumps and that's what's getting a stack nerf 6. shield boosters and armor repairers don't have and WON'T have any stack nerfs when used in dual/triple setups Err dude... 2. Will need to test it, not what i read about it. To be honest I never played around with shield tanks much being pure Gallente. 3. You are listing a RIG not a module, i was referring to modules (see op saying Exzcept Rigs). 6. Not what the patch notes say. Test on Sisi for yourself, enough people have told you that its not thr reppers. See the search function over top right? It's your helper to find others with the same question. "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein Member of the [UTSFAH] corp.
Callistus Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:11:00 - [16] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Celeste Coeval I only need 1 point. 1) The nerf is to Armour rigs only. Have a nice day. Wrong. Nowhere in the patch notes does it say this will affect rigs only. In fact, this bit is listed under "Modules", not "Rigs". The MODULES are getting stack nerfed, get it? This is a BAD thing. How about you actually go and test this stuff on SISI or read the six hundred other threads on this issue before making stupid assumptions. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:12:00 - [17] Originally by: Chewan Mesa [Lets try this again... It has been tested! Armor Repairer do not stack on SiSi, the patch notes are slightly misleading, but it refers to rigs boosting the armor rep amount, which will be stacking nerfed after the patch. Hehehe, ok, that makes things clear... Patch notes are botched then... Entry should be under Rigs not under Modules... ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Doomed Predator Order Of The Sentinel FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:13:00 - [18] Any bets on how many threads it will take for CCP to pos a dev reply and stopping these threads?
Soulita Gallente Inner Core	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:13:00 - [19] Edited by: Soulita on 19/03/2007 16:10:42 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Celeste Coeval I only need 1 point. 1) The nerf is to Armour rigs only. Have a nice day. Wrong. Nowhere in the patch notes does it say this will affect rigs only. In fact, this bit is listed under "Modules", not "Rigs". The MODULES are getting stack nerfed, get it? This is a BAD thing. If this is true, bye bye to my beloved mission dominixes, and welcome good ole raven. The dominix has many disadvantages compared to the raven as is in missions, due to the never ending drone probs. It was very balanced before these changes, with a slight advantage for the raven. If the announced changes realy do effect multi repper ships, shield tanks are the way to go. Cant say how glad I am that I am training Caldari skills up anyways, so switching to the raven doesnt bother me too much. Edit: Read in this thread it only effects rigs afterall? In that case doesnt do too much harm.
Chewan Mesa Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Soulita If this is true, It isnt.
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:14:00 - [21] Edited by: DrAtomic on 19/03/2007 16:11:29 Originally by: Callistus How about you actually go and test this stuff on SISI. If that wouldnt f*&^ off my eve installations I would, just reinstalled the whole lot today not going to go through that again tyvm. And yes i connect to SiSi from a copy of EvE (dont ask me why but it still managages to corrupt my normal installs. ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:16:00 - [22] Originally by: DrAtomic Originally by: Akita T Bottom line, you fail at EVE mechanics. Highlights: 2. stack nerf IS on boos amps and boost amps only 3. yes they are they're called aux nano pumps and that's what's getting a stack nerf 6. shield boosters and armor repairers don't have and WON'T have any stack nerfs when used in dual/triple setups Err dude... 2. Will need to test it, not what i read about it. To be honest I never played around with shield tanks much being pure Gallente. 3. You are listing a RIG not a module, i was referring to modules (see op saying Exzcept Rigs). 6. Not what the patch notes say. PATCH SAYS : Armor Repair values are now stacking nerfed like Shield Boost values. Do you know how shield boost works ? You do ? Good. Now that same thing happends to armor repair. The only difference is that the equivalent of shield boost amplifers are the armor repair amount rigs. There's no shield boost amount bonus rig, there's no armor repair amount bonus module. So I stand by my initial statement. The OP fails at basic EVE mechanics and reading comprehenstion. And no, you don't need anything else than a basic knowledge of EVE, a working brain, and the patch notes. _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Callistus Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:17:00 - [23] Originally by: DrAtomic Edited by: DrAtomic on 19/03/2007 16:11:29 Originally by: Callistus How about you actually go and test this stuff on SISI. If that wouldnt f*&^ off my eve installations I would, just reinstalled the whole lot today not going to go through that again tyvm. And yes i connect to SiSi from a copy of EvE (dont ask me why but it still managages to corrupt my normal installs. lol fair point The test patches seems to corrupt my client most of the time too, very irritating. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:18:00 - [24] Originally by: DrAtomic Edited by: DrAtomic on 19/03/2007 16:11:29 Originally by: Callistus How about you actually go and test this stuff on SISI. If that wouldnt f&^ off my eve installations I would, just reinstalled the whole lot today not going to go through that again tyvm. And yes i connect to SiSi from a copy of EvE (dont ask me why but it still managages to corrupt my normal installs. The fact remains that the forums have corrected you. Don't argue because they are right. This thread needed 2 replies, one to correct you and a thankyou from the OP. But no. --- Originally by:* Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:24:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T I am the troll king of flame, succumb to my forum pvp skills Here have one back: M o d u l e s e c t i o n i n p a t c h n o t e s It's a rig related change listed under modules. Who is having reading issues here? I relied on the patch notes, guess I shouldn't have and should have gone off to test it on SiSi first (which i cant without reinstalling my eve installations for some wierd reason). ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Chewan Mesa Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:28:00 - [26] Originally by: DrAtomic I relied on the patch notes, guess I shouldn't have and should have gone off to test it on SiSi first (which i cant without reinstalling my eve installations for some wierd reason). Well or you could believe the 20 other threads where people have been corrected already from others who did test it on SiSi, or believe those in this thread telling you they tested it.
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:31:00 - [27] Originally by: Marquis Dean This thread needed 2 replies, one to correct you and a thankyou from the OP. But no. Eurhm? I did thank the person who pointed out how it is on Sisi and who managed to do so in a normal way.... But here we go again: I fall to my knees and beg all thou nobel forum pvp-ers for forgiveness for raising a valid point from reading the patch notes, not reading past the first page, being unable to test this and rely on information provided by CCP in the patch notes and not use an external website to search for possible other threads, thank you, thank you, thank you, I humbly thank you all. ----------------------------------------------- My Top 10 List
Baleorg Gallente Guys of Sarcasm	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:33:00 - [28] Edited by: Baleorg on 19/03/2007 16:32:12 Originally by: Akita T 3. yes they are they're called aux nano pumps and that's what's getting a stack nerf 1 armor repper + 1 aux nano pump, will it still give me the same after the patch as now? or will that be lower? if i put >1 aux nano pump then i understand, but 1 shoudl give me something,right? ...and ye, iam busy testing other stuff and cant be arsed atm to put some rigs in my ships :-P BTW: A GOOD Cache-Cleaner
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:34:00 - [29] Originally by: DrAtomic Originally by: Marquis Dean This thread needed 2 replies, one to correct you and a thankyou from the OP. But no. Eurhm? I did thank the person who pointed out how it is on Sisi and who managed to do so in a normal way.... But here we go again: I fall to my knees and beg all thou nobel forum pvp-ers for forgiveness for raising a valid point from reading the patch notes, not reading past the first page, being unable to test this and rely on information provided by CCP in the patch notes and not use an external website to search for possible other threads, thank you, thank you, thank you, I humbly thank you all. Maybe these didn't help your cause. --- Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.19 16:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Baleorg Originally by: Akita T 3. yes they are they're called aux nano pumps and that's what's getting a stack nerf 1 armor repper + 1 aux nano pump, will it still give me the same after the patch as now? or will that be lower? if i put >1 aux nano pump then i understand, but 1 shoudl give me something,right? Yeah that's right. 1 should be as normal. --- Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.

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