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Arkoth 24
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Posted - 2016.09.27 09:44:43 -
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Malcanis wrote:After 5 years and 3 executive producers in a row confirming that there are no plans to work on WiS it might, just maybe be time to accept that it's not going to happen.
And there are still a lot of people who want it.
If you don't give people what they want and give 'em something you want 'em to want instead, like some candies for active subscription and not-so-really-free-to-play, don't be surprised to see more and more of 'em leaving.
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Arkoth 24
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Posted - 2016.09.27 10:01:59 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Malcanis wrote:After 5 years and 3 executive producers in a row confirming that there are no plans to work on WiS it might, just maybe be time to accept that it's not going to happen. And there are still a lot of people who want it. If you don't give people what they want and give 'em something you want 'em to want instead, like some candies for active subscription and not-so-really-free-to-play, don't be surprised to see more and more of 'em leaving. i want to be able to fly planes and drives tanks in call of duty, why cant i do this but other games can?
'Cause CoD sucks obviously.
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Posted - 2016.09.27 21:07:24 -
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Malcanis wrote:My reply to this line of argument remains the same as it was a year ago...
And my reply is:
No.
F@#%ken.
Way.
Am i look like an owner of CCP? Or an EVE developer? It's not my f@#%ken job.
I pay the money - CCP provides the service. Dat's all. If i don't like the service - i go away. No hard feelings. It's not my job to keep subscribers subscribing. I'm not goin' to be paid for dat, k?
"Oh you don't like it - so go and make it better!" - Just. No.
In addition to dat. I've just returned from coronation event - it was awful. Really.
I dunno who was so smart to make Empress talk in 2500+ local channel instead of making another one just like for incursions but with muted capsuleers. I dunno who was so smart to not preparing for 2500+ capsuleers in local laggin' like hell. But if ya would like to ask me to fix dat crap too - i say "No".
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Posted - 2016.09.27 21:24:52 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:I'm on board. And since you killed a capsuleer who isn't in a pod, they die permanently, lose all their skills and have to start over with a fresh character from scratch.
I would like to see ex-capsuleers warpin' away on their overheated butt-drive too, but - sad to say - all capsule operators are back-upped as data for such cases.
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Posted - 2016.09.28 06:46:35 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Proof that the people who have spent years crying about WiS don't actually want it enough to make it happen. Notice this poster talking about people leaving if WiS doesn't happen....demonstrably not leaving even though WiS isn't happening....proving again that they really don't want WiS.
The fact i don't wanna do the job other people are paid for don't prove that i don't want WiS. At least - in common sense.
And i don't wanna say "BUAAAA BAD GAME UNSUBSCRIBED!!!!11" - for now at least. I find EVE worth paying for it - even without WiS. It may be changed in future - in November especially - but for now i'm down with it.
All i wanna say that CCP IMHO make something people don't want to happen insted of something they were asked for years. Years of asking for WiS. Years of asking for more PvE content. Years of asking for mining rework. All of these may make people keep paying.
And - i don't even mention WoD. An army of fans were waiting and asking for it for years. CCP gave 'em some VR-crap instead.
Instead - they are giving people SKINs, F2P (Who the hell was asking for it? No, really?) and candies for subscription. OK, let's hope it will work and a bunch of people who don't want to pay will bring CCP more money than people who are able to pay but see less reasons for it with every update.
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Posted - 2016.09.28 07:56:37 -
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PopeUrban wrote:Hell, they could release a sixty dollar monocle again right now and literally nobody would care.
If years ago CCP would even say a word 'bout SP trading or SKINs - Jita would blow up to shreds. Or even think for a moment of any kind of something looks-like-not-so-much-F2P a bit.
Now WiS looks like not a big deal.
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Posted - 2016.09.28 17:38:09 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:The fact i don't wanna do the job other people are paid for don't prove that i don't want WiS. At least - in common sense. There is a saying in my country: Put your MONEY where your MOUTH is. If you aren't willing to do that, then you don't want what you say you want. Period.
I pay subscription already. But you keep tellin' me to give more money for makin' EVE to be interesting for me. Nope. I already pay exactly for it and see no reason to pay any extra.
Jenn aSide wrote:...but CCP is a company, if they aren't giving you what you want, stop giving them money.
Dat's what she said.
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Posted - 2016.09.29 11:04:09 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:
I pay subscription already. But you keep tellin' me to give more money for makin' EVE to be interesting for me. Nope. I already pay exactly for it and see no reason to pay any extra.
Your subscription fee entitles you to access to the server. That's all. It doesn't come packaged with a promise to cater to your every idiotic whim. Paying a finite amount of money for a specific good or service does not entitle you to anything more than was agreed. If you go to a restaurant and order an a la carte item, you don't get other items for free based on the fact that you "already paid". You certainly don't get to insist that they build a rooftop deck and install a stripper pole, either. Somehow this is impossible for some people to understand, yet we understand it easily and completely. Our subscription (whether cash or plex) gives us access to EVE, and that's all. Yet these people thinks it entitles them to more than that. It doesn't.
(sigh) This is hopeless. Ya keep tellin' me what ya think i do. And i'm tired to tell ya that i don't.
I don't come to CCP and say "Gimme every crap i say - i pay ya for dat!" I pay exactly to get what CCP offers to me. But no company just bring customers something and say "Eat dat or get lost!"
Making service to be interesting for customers is a goal for every company. That's what CCP does when it announces new features like not-so-really-F2P - they try to attract more customers. And there's no reason for me to pay any extra cash for it - it's just a part of their everyday job.
But ya just stuck with your "PAY FOR WHAT YOU WANT, BASTARD!"
What's wrong with ya, anyway?
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Posted - 2016.09.29 23:15:30 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I understand english isn't your 1st language, however you have chosen to post on an english speaking board.
So i'll make this real simple:
YOU say you want WiS.
It has been pointed out that CCP has repeatedly said they aren't doing WiS, and you don't like this.
It has been suggested that if you want WiS, you and people like you could help make that happen by starting a campaign to pay for it.
You say that isn't your "job". Saying it is not your job to take action to get something you want is the exact same as saying "I didn't really want that even though I said i did". Thus the old saying "put your money where your mouth is".
It looks like my English sucks so badly that ya don't even read mah posts. And i don't really want to repeat the same things in the third time for ya. This conversation lost it's weight years ago anyway.
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Posted - 2016.09.30 07:12:22 -
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Rain6637 wrote:u no how I no EVE is dying
the latest WiS thread is only 5 pages deep after as many days
Yeah, back in time we had 20+ pages in just few dayz.
Let's hope all of dese F2P chums who'll come in November will halp uz make great WiS tredz every week and whine constantly.
We just need to tell 'em dat CCP promised dat stuff long time ago and needs their donations to make it happen.
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Posted - 2016.09.30 09:46:41 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Rain6637 wrote:u no how I no EVE is dying
the latest WiS thread is only 5 pages deep after as many days Yeah, back in time we had 20+ pages in just few dayz. Let's hope all of dese F2P chums who'll come in November will halp uz make great WiS tredz every week and whine constantly. We just need to tell 'em dat CCP promised dat stuff long time ago and needs their donations to make it happen. u no we should typ lik dis to get ready 4 all the new ppl who like f2p games
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Posted - 2016.10.06 08:45:52 -
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Conrad Makbure wrote:The STO duty officer system is one of the few good things about that game. It's what CCP should have done with Teams, but instead trashed the idea. CCP should revisit Teams to make it more like duty officers; they could tie the missions to EVE lore perhaps? It was a good game system, not too demanding on resources.
While ships have crews, it would be good to see 'em as a part of actual mechanics: moving crews from ship to ship, training 'em for some bonuses, and loosing 'em on ship destruction. Just like some kind of "removable rigs", but it will bring "more life" into Cluster.
Not 'bout WiS, but another good idea.
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Posted - 2016.10.06 12:27:31 -
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DJ puar wrote:That will not happen
We heard the same 'bout F2P.
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