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illusha
Halfwits The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:40:00 -
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I googled Taranis one day out of boredom and this is what I got from Wikipedia
In Celtic mythology Taranis was the god of thunder worshipped in Gaul and Britain and mentioned, along with Esus and Toutatis, by the Roman poet Lucan in his epic poem Pharsalia as a Celtic deity to whom sacrificial offerings were made.[1] He was associated, as was the cyclops Brontes (ęthunderĘ) in Greek mythology, with the wheel and may have received human sacrifices. Many representations of a bearded god with a thunderbolt in one hand and a wheel in the other have been recovered from Gaul, where this deity apparently came to be syncretised with Jupiter.[2] He is likely connected with the Anglo-Saxon god ¦unor, the Norse Thor, Ambisagrus, the Irish Tuireann and the Culdee saint Taran. The name Taranis has not yet been recovered from Gaulish inscriptions, but similar variants have, such as Taranucno-, Taranuo-, and Taraino-.[3]
Is CCP naming their ships after Gods in mythology like Thorax- Thor?
Anyone have any idea how they come up with the names for the ships?
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:43:00 -
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Edited by: SonOTassadar on 21/03/2007 04:39:19 Generally each race has their own "class" of names. Amarr are religious types, so you have names like Archon, Absolution, Damnation, etc., etc. Whereas Caldari, well, I'm not sure how it relates to them, but their ships are named after creatures: Cerberus(mythical creature), Raven, Condor, Scorpion, Nighthawk, etc. Not too sure how the Gallente and Minmatar are classed, though. ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standard Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless |
syphurous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:47:00 -
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Gallente = Greek / Roman Gods
EG:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanatos
You'll note quite a few more names in that article :) ______________________________
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Mace Tyrell
Caldari Rogue Arrow Galactic Empire O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:51:00 -
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I know the Minmatar ships names come mostly form Norse Mythology. Most of the Gallente seem to be from Greek mythology.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:53:00 -
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Minmatar ships are mostly violent names.
Tempest, Typhoon, Maelstrom (all violent weather)
Stabber, Scythe, Rupture, Burst, Slasher, etc. (violent acts again)
Not sure how the Vigil fits in.
Gallente just seem made up.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: syphurous Gallente = Greek / Roman Gods
EG:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanatos
You'll note quite a few more names in that article :)
A few but Imicus? Atron? Navitas? Thorax? Dominix? Vexor? Celestis? Exequror? Megathron?
Seem all made up to me.
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Cmdr Delrox
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:56:00 -
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Minnie = -weather stuff - typhoon, tempest -weapons - rapier, scythe, claymore, sabre -norse - huginn, sleipnir -actions - stabber, probe, thrasher
They just all over the area at first, but most of the stuff ties in to Norse mythology and culture.
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Da Tosser
Enterprising Trolls With Flamethrowers
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Posted - 2007.03.21 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
Originally by: syphurous Gallente = Greek / Roman Gods
EG:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanatos
You'll note quite a few more names in that article :)
A few but Imicus? Atron? Navitas? Thorax? Dominix? Vexor? Celestis? Exequror? Megathron?
Seem all made up to me.
Look up the latin roots for those words. then you will see.
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Scilent Enigma
Minmatar SpearMint Rhino GentleMen's Club
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Posted - 2007.03.21 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Scilent Enigma on 21/03/2007 05:38:55 Adding some more for Minnies:
Hel (Our mom ship) - The World of the Dead according to the Norse mythology. Naglfar (Dreadnought) - The boat which used to ferry the recently deceased to the world of the dead. Huginn and Muninn - The two Crows of Odin. Nidhoggur - The dragon who eats the roots of the World Tree, Yggdrasill. Fenrir - A giant wolf, whose release into freedom is the reason to Ragnarok. Ragnarok - The end of the world according to the norse mythology.
Etc..
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Valeo Galaem
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.21 05:56:00 -
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All that needs to be said.
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Narita Townshend
VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.21 05:59:00 -
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Hel is actually the goddess of the dead for the norse:
From: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hel.html
"In Norse mythology, Hel is the ruler of Helheim, the realm of the dead. She is the youngest child of the evil god Loki and the giantess Angrboda. She is usually described as a horrible hag, half alive and half dead, with a gloomy and grim expression. Her face and body are those of a living woman, but her thighs and legs are those of a corpse, mottled and moldering."
HelHiem is the realm of the dead.
Gallente ships seem to be varius dieties, not just greek (ishtar is sumarian for example). I think the overarching theme is "classical studies" - Latin and greek word roots, mixed in with Primarily(if not all) oldworld dieties.
Then ther eis the obelisk, which, while not following the first two patters, is a piece of classical sculpture.
the oddball of the naming schemes IMO is the charon. charon is the greek ferryman of the dead. why is a caldari ship named that...?
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Mar Idoun
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2007.03.21 06:29:00 -
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/me wonders what the chinese ship names are....*goes to China Eve site.
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Forum Alt
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.03.21 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Forum Alt on 21/03/2007 06:45:55 I always thought the fighter names were venereal diseases...
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Narita Townshend
VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.21 07:10:00 -
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Templars were a Big deal religous order during the Midieval period.
Dragonfly's are flying insects.
The Firbolg are "primordial inhabitants, or early gods, of Ireland. The third wave of invaders, they conquered Ireland and defeated the Fomorians. The name can be translated as 'Men of the Bags'."
einherji might be something in icelandic? Unknown.
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Shachmato DeZubai
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Posted - 2007.03.21 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Shachmato DeZubai on 21/03/2007 07:21:25
Originally by: Humpalot
A few but Imicus? Atron? Navitas? Thorax? Dominix? Vexor? Celestis? Exequror? Megathron?
Seem all made up to me.[/quote
thorax n. area between the neck and abdomen, chest (of four-legged animals); middle body segment of an insect crustacean or arachnid
navitas energy, get up and go
celestis or -us| celestissimus -a -um ADJ heavenly| of the heavens/sky| from heaven/sky; celestial; divine; of the Gods
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Arii Smith
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.03.21 07:25:00 -
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The einherjal or somesuch spelling is Norse.
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Assur
Minmatar Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.21 07:34:00 -
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Allot of minmatar shipnames are from norse mythology. Huginn and Muninn Naglfar Hel Nidhoggur Allot of the other ones have to do with the type of culture in question. Ships and the sea were a big part of the culture which is where you get names like cyclone and such from. They are weather conditions which directly effect the sea and anything traveling on it.
I fly minmatar which is why I'm focusing on them in this but every race in eve is structured in this way. Something to do when your bored :D
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Nyk0n
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.21 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nyk0n on 21/03/2007 07:38:22 Im still waiting 4 my t2 caldari navy pidgion
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Drachma Golea
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.03.21 07:47:00 -
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Gallente ships afaik are mostly from the greek mythology:
Deimos Δεῖμος ("dread") was the personification of dread. He was the son of Ares and Aphrodite. He, his brother Phobos, and the goddess Enyoaccompanied Ares into battle, as well as his father's attendants, Trembling and Panic. His Roman equivalent was Formido or Metus. Asaph Hall, who discovered the moons of Mars, named one Deimos, and the other Phobos
In later Greek literature Hyperion is always distinguished from Helios as a Titan, the son of Gaia 'Goddess Earth' and Uranus 'God Sky', and the father of Helios 'God Sun', Selene 'Goddess Moon' and Eos 'Goddess Dawn' by his sister Theia 'Goddess Sight' or, in the Homeric Hymn to Helios, Euryphaessa:
"Theia yielded to Hyperion's love and gave birth to great Helios and bright Selene and Eos, who brings light to all the mortals of this earth and to the immortal gods who rule the wide sky." (Hesiod, Theogony, 371-374)
Ishtar (DIčTAR DINGIR INANNA 𒀭𒌋𒁯) is the Assyrian and Babylonian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna and to the cognate northwest Semitic goddess Astarte. Anunit, Astarte, Atarsamain and Esther are alternative names for Ishtar.
Thorax (0e6poś). 1. Of Larissa in Thes-saly, and one of the powerful family of the Aleua-dae. Thorax and his brothers, wishing to confirm or to increase their power, were among those who urged Xerxes to invade Greece, and promised him their assistance in the enterprise. In the Persian king's retreat, after the battle of Salamis, Thorax[/b] formed one of his escort, after which he still con”tinued to show his zeal in the cause of the in”vaders, and was present with Mardonius at the battle of Plataea,
Just to name a few
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Jade Vendetta
Gallente Cospoli Assembly
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Posted - 2007.03.21 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Vendetta on 21/03/2007 09:06:07 A few more Gallente ship-names:
Lachesis: (Greek mythology) the Fate who determines the length of the thread of life.
Eris: (Greek mythology) goddess of discord; sister of Ares.
Oneiros: (could be a slight alteration of Oneiroi, and if so) (Greek mythology) the Oneiroi were the sons of Hypnos, the god of sleep. They were personifications of dreams ł black-winged daemons.
Myrmidon: a king of Phthiotis who was a son of Zeus
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Third Down
Hard Rock Cafe
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Posted - 2007.03.21 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Valeo Galaem Edited by: Valeo Galaem on 21/03/2007 06:09:01
All that needs to be said (Gnauton's post, #65)
Post #79 is also inspiring.
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Scilent Enigma
Minmatar SpearMint Rhino GentleMen's Club
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Posted - 2007.03.21 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Narita Townshend Hel is actually the goddess of the dead for the norse:
From: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/h/hel.html
"In Norse mythology, Hel is the ruler of Helheim, the realm of the dead. She is the youngest child of the evil god Loki and the giantess Angrboda. She is usually described as a horrible hag, half alive and half dead, with a gloomy and grim expression. Her face and body are those of a living woman, but her thighs and legs are those of a corpse, mottled and moldering."
HelHiem is the realm of the dead.
They are quiet intermixable, if you look at the meaning of Helheim. Hel Heim, (lit translated Hel Home or Hel's home). Hel has been used to describe the world of the dead aswell as the godess of the dead. (I have heard that this is the semantic origin for the word hell but I'm not 100% since I'm not sure about the source)
I wouldn't trust that text too much either since it contains another rather fundamental error, Loki was not a God he was of Vanerna (giants) but was accepted by Asarna (Norse gods) to walk among them. (There was a never ending war between Asarna and Vanerna, thus Lokis rather unique situation).
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2007.03.21 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Third Down
Originally by: Valeo Galaem Edited by: Valeo Galaem on 21/03/2007 06:09:01
All that needs to be said (Gnauton's post, #65)
Post #79 is also inspiring.
#79 is the one that made me chortle!
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Miriyana
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.21 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Miriyana on 21/03/2007 10:18:09 Edited by: Miriyana on 21/03/2007 10:17:51
Quote: Anyone have any idea how they come up with the names for the ships?
2 letters, M.J ...
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.03.21 10:45:00 -
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Me personally I can't wait till they run out of these fruity names and have to come up with something new out of these lame themes.
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Scilent Enigma
Naglfar (Dreadnought) - The boat which used to ferry the recently deceased to the world of the dead.
I read that the Naglfar is a boat made from the nails of dead men that will ferry the warriors from the world of the dead to Midgard (the world of men) when it is completed. The completeion of the Naglfar is also what brings around Ragnarok, not the releasing of Fenrir who is released after Ragnarok starts.
Thats why the norse would cut the finger and toe nails off their dead before buring them so ti would slow the advance of Ragnarok.
I never read a norse myth about a boat carring people to the afterlife when they die. I only heard of the Celtic and Greek/Roman myth about the ferryman and the river Styx. ------
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whahein
Minmatar wh inc
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Narita Townshend
einherji might be something in icelandic? Unknown.
it's the icelandic translation of Einherjar, the dead hero's that train and feast in valhalla awaiting ragnarok where they will fight with odin.
it's of cause yet another reference to norse mythology
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Scilent Enigma
Minmatar SpearMint Rhino GentleMen's Club
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
Originally by: Scilent Enigma
Naglfar (Dreadnought) - The boat which used to ferry the recently deceased to the world of the dead.
I read that the Naglfar is a boat made from the nails of dead men that will ferry the warriors from the world of the dead to Midgard (the world of men) when it is completed. The completeion of the Naglfar is also what brings around Ragnarok, not the releasing of Fenrir who is released after Ragnarok starts.
Thats why the norse would cut the finger and toe nails off their dead before buring them so ti would slow the advance of Ragnarok.
I never read a norse myth about a boat carring people to the afterlife when they die. I only heard of the Celtic and Greek/Roman myth about the ferryman and the river Styx.
Well the similarities are many, the myth of Naglfar is like any other myth inspired with myths from other mythologies. Everthing kinda blends in to eachother (take the noas ark myth from the bible, there is a sumerian version of it in the books about Gilgamesh that is several thousands of years older).
People know a good story when they see it, and put it into context with the living conditions and belifs of their time.
As for the release of Fenrir was one of the signs of Ragnarok had started. There were several others (can't remember them all), like the midgards wyrm releasing the grip it had on it's on tail etc. (which incidently is part of the story of a contest between Thor and the giants where the giants uses spells to make Thor belive that there is a cat and that if he could lift the cat up so that it didn't have all the paws on the ground he would win, thus if Thor succeded he would bring Ragnarok earlier).
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:57:00 -
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bashing drunken icelandic heads of keyboards was how I thought they named everything ohh well... |- My Sig *snip* Please do not use that term. -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) -| |
Bozse
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.21 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Humpalot
Originally by: syphurous Gallente = Greek / Roman Gods
EG:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanatos
You'll note quite a few more names in that article :)
A few but Imicus? Atron? Navitas? Thorax? Dominix? Vexor? Celestis? Exequror? Megathron?
Seem all made up to me.
Atron - Latin? : I think this is likely to be derived from the Latin stem of patron, so it means Supporter/Protector.
Imicus - Latin : Foe, enemy, opponent.
Incursus - Latin : Attack, Assault.
Maulus - Absolutely no friggin idea Confused Pobably derived from maul.
Navitas - Latin : Energy.
Tristan - Celtic : One of the knights of the round table in Arthurian legend who married Iseult.
Dominix - Latin : Derived from dominus, meaning lord.
Megathron - Greek : Simply, Large Throne : alt. Megathron - In greek, Mega Therion means "Great Beast", name for the devil in catholic religion.
Catalyst - English : A substance used to speed up a reaction. Derived from Greek but English in invention.
Ares - Greek : Greek god of War.
Taranis - Celtic : Celtic god of Thunder.
Enyo - Greek : Greek goddess of War.
Ishkur - Babylonian : Sumerian god of Storms.
Deimos - Greek : Greek god of Fear.
Ishtar - Babylonian : babylonian goddes of love and war (heh)
Celestis - Latin : From "cµlestis" Heavenly.
Exequror - Latin : From "exequor" To follow to the end, or the grave.
Vexor - Latin : From "vexo" To annoy, harrass.
Thorax - Latin : Breastplate
Iteron - Latin : From "itero" To repeat.
Brutix - Latin : From "brutus" Dull, stupid, slow
Helios - Greek : The sun.
Nemesis - Greek : Goddess of Vengeance.
Oneiros - Greek : Dream.
Occator - [i]Latin : From "occato", harrowing.
Viator - [i]Latin : Traveller.
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