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Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.21 06:48:00 - [1] Who can resist a damsel in distress I know I cant, and so went my 4 hours in hell. First off to CCP great job on making missions more interesting, and at the same time damn you for doing it and also giving my domi a stacking nerf with my armor rep rigs. I log in today for the first time since the patch, and my agent offers me a mission I have never seen, SWEET! there is no info on this mission I can find , but I accept the mission after all I can handle mordus head hunters and worlds collide solo in my domi, and the mission reward on "The Damsel in distress" (lvl4) is so low and teh lp is laughable so I figure should be easy?. So since im smart I hop in a shuttle to scout, warp to mission location, bunch of structures a few cruisers and frigs and about 3 BS's , so im like sweet this will be a breeze. I go get my domi, and since I dont know what damage type I figure they look to be basically mercenaries I equip thermal sentries , heavies and med's, and set my tank for best I can against all damage types (which is pretty solid). I warp back into the mission and I see in my chat channels, there was a message saying that backup had arrived, bringing the total to around 8 BS's 10+ cruisers and a bunch of frigs some scrambling webbing etc. I litterally have just enough time to launch med drones take out 4 or 5 frigs that have caught me , recall them and warp away, before im into structure (thanks for nerfing my armor rep, like it wasnt already hard enough to armor tank in missions) midn you teh armor rep asside there was just a crazy amount of DPS, this is the first time ive ever warped from a lvl4 including mordus and WC, So after 3 warp outs and returns with structure damage on 2 of the times I kill off the ships. Sweet now all I have to do is pop the structure grab the loot and be on my way, I look at the mission and it says I need to destroy the pleasure garden, and I think "crap theres 2 of them" which one ? so Ok i laucnh my sentries again and after about 15min of shooting at this structure I figure there must be some mistake a typo, this is taking forever , it must be one of the ither structures. So I redirect fire and start on all the other structures, 30 min later there all done and my loot is gonna start poping so I give up and go get my looter and clean up the wrecks etc. go get my domi again and start shooting another 15min later all other structures but teh 2 pleasure gardens are left and still no mission item, so I start on the station again, 45min later first one pops and NOTHING!, so i chose wrong. I start firing and sit back to wait, I decide to go to the bathroom while this is going on grab a drink, as im using teh facilities I hear weapons fire, I rush back, and my ship is taking heavy damage and so are my sentries, I activate all my moduals which were off buys me just enough time to scoop and warp out at %50 structure luckily no scramble or it woudl haev been the end. so I fix, recover and head back kill them all off, then i start back on the structure again, 110 15min later oh look more ships !, luckily i was atleast someone prepared, finish em off, and finally finish the structure off. As its about to explode I get a warning about lots of amunition in station and that all ships in range will take damage, luckily i was using sentries and I was out of range I have no idea what kind of damage would have been done. The whole time the mission was updating in my chat channels which was really cool, and added some realism to it. But this took over 4 hours, the fact that the mission structures werent properly specified and took rediculous time to kill, all in all it was a new experience extremely frustraiting and in the end not fun at all. I will never solo this mission again, it takes way to long, but i commend CCP becuase the new mission scripting system is really freekin cool, and the whole expericne was new. Just frustrating. Be ware of damsels.
Christina Vallentine Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.21 07:01:00 - [2] @_@ Sounds painful Kassidus. Glad you didn't loose your ship.
ScrambledEgg Zone	Posted - 2007.03.21 07:12:00 - [3] god, and I thought killing the pirate habitat in those 'avenge a fallen comrade' missions was tedious! Yay you never died :O) about the mission filling up the chat box, i've had something similar to that before this patch; when i would be in a convo with someone and they left, that empty convo box would fill up with mission blabber like "another wave of enemy reinforcements is incoming!" odd.
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.21 07:16:00 - [4] Like I said I think the new system is great and with some tweaking even this mission could be more fun, I just feel sorry for the people that use ammo or missles, cause it would have cost a fortune. Im glad i didnt take my deimos in like i was going to, that would have died in teh first wave.
Micia Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.21 07:22:00 - [5] Is this the same "Damsel In Distress" mission that was removed about a year ago? Or a new one with the same name? _______ Oppressed? Enslaved? Stand up and fight back!
mafesto Minmatar Luna Tech Manufacturing Industries	Posted - 2007.03.21 07:24:00 - [6] I did it today in my Machariel, was a crazy fight....first time I have had to warp off in a mission in forever was good fun, and had great loot...but when I saw the "40 minutes to recieve your bonus", I thought it was going to be such an easy mission....I was wrong :-P
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.21 07:24:00 - [7] I cant say I never experienced that one, but im sure its much different than the original anyways.
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.21 07:25:00 - [8] Originally by: mafesto I did it today in my Machariel, was a crazy fight....first time I have had to warp off in a mission in forever was good fun, and had great loot...but when I saw the "40 minutes to recieve your bonus", I thought it was going to be such an easy mission....I was wrong :-P Yeah with loot and bounties it was almost 29mill after selling everything to buy orders on market. not sure if it was worth the danger and the 4 hours it took .
Zartmann	Posted - 2007.03.21 08:56:00 - [9] I almost fall for a very similar situation... The mission was "Cargo Delivering" (or something like this)... YEAH ! GREAT ! New lvl 4 ! I jump on it ...and I was with my hauler (Badger II) and the mission ordered justo to do a pickup of 10 un Quafe...@ AN SERPENTIS outpost ...in Saila ? Sounds a little fishy, but the low payment LP/ISK ...ridicolous 143.000 got me convinced it will be a breeze... Warped to Saila... hummmmmm.... warp encounter Deadspace...ok, let¦s take a peek (still flying the Badger II WITH 10KK in cargo). As soon as I arrived... new scenario (Great one BTW)... no hostiles in sight... a container icon marking that outpost...I thought, well... let¦s grab it...started the aprouch on Serpentis outpost...and then !!! BANG ! Chat Windows blinks with text and the overview got crowded with blinkin BS ... !!! OMGWTF !!! ...warped out with an unbeliavable 5% of structure ! What a catch ! CCP got me ! Cool...let¦s have it their way... Jumped in o my Beloved&Mightfull CNR ...and 15 minutes later and a couple of consecutives waves of respaw ...All clear, Rats in the bag, got the salvager/loot ship and finished the job... I Say Thumbs up for this new mission script. But pls, just stop to lure us with low rewards... I almost lose that Hauler and the cargo...but taking all in consideration... What a nice rush of adrenaline! BTW the bounty and the loot worth the effort and the risk. /me 100% happy Carebear Mission Runner, thks for this new missions! I lov it! My english sucks? I bet that u can also beat me in <my_native_language>? BTW: hate my spelling too? Go play Scrabble !
xAsmod	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:19:00 - [10] Edited by: xAsmod on 21/03/2007 09:17:27 My corp mate did the whole thing in a cerb except take out the structures. I jumped in to help out with a torp fitted raven. The structure blew and did this: Quote: [ 2007.03.21 00:22:02 ] (combat) Kruul's Pleasure Gardens hits you, doing 1098.0 damage. Good job I had my 4 hardeners + 1 DC II switched on!! My corp mate posted in corp chat this Quote: 2007.03.21 00:22:02 Combat Kruul's Pleasure Gardens hits you, doing 1200.0 damage. I am not sure what setup she had (probably no em hardeners though)
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Zartmann But pls, just stop to lure us with low rewards... As with all new missions, the rewards, LP and completion time won't be accurate until a lot of people have run that mission. Mission rewards are calculated dynamically, based - I think - on how long it takes people to complete the mission. If nobody has done the mission yet, which is the case with all the new missions, they will be at the default value. Sadly, the default value is rather low. Once a lot of people have done the new Damsel, lost ships, failed it, and taken six hours over it, the rewards should grow appropriately. Just remember - you can't just a new mission by its rewards.
Sisco Deivas Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:31:00 - [12] Exactly the same thing happened to be.. i got offered around 130k and 180k if i finished the mission within 30 minutes.. and 364LP.. i thought to myself, well this should be a piece of **, scouted the place out and wasn't sure which missiles to use so i equipped one of each in the raven and decided i'd use whichever gave the most damage out on the first volley... (well duh) i see all the chat channels flashing.. but think nothing of it.. 'fs chats **** again' i warp back in, i'm surrounded by backup battleships. Not that i didn't prosper (4 warp outs later), problem was ofcourse, for the amount of time it took me to kill them, i might aswell of done a L2 courier mission for the LP reward :P
Sol Halcon Minmatar The Exile Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:35:00 - [13] I won't be able to fly until tomorrow, but now I'm looking forward to it. I had to laugh at the OP's part about getting caught in the bathroom. I done that too.
Sahjahn Caldari Black Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:50:00 - [14] Yup i got this mission last night as well, only one problem i'm in a Drake. Now i can run any LvL 4 mission in my Drake and ok they take a lot longer than if i had a Raven (but i've never trained for one so stuck with the Drake) but they're all doable and in a not too rediculous amount of time. Yeah ok i quite like the scripting as well although once you've done it a few times it'll be just as dull as before but hey nothing you or ccp can do about that. I liked Kuul telling me he was gonna kick my 'ass' and Kor telling me i'd upset his evening plans. But yeah same problem, i killed all the ships and am left with just the structures. So i target and start spamming my (what now feel puny) heavy missiles at it. After about 20 minutes i've detroyed all it's armour but it still has 70% shields and they aren't moving, nor is the structure HP either really. Hmmm i'm gonna run out of missiles at this rate and i need to get to work tomorrow. So i had to call in help from my corp mate who turned up in his CNR with about 9or 10 Mil in missile skills. We eventually blow up the first structure and as you described bugger all. So we turn on the next one, which of course spawns a new set of battleships, and cruisers and Kor. I take care of the ships and leave my corp mate with the structure. After another half an hour it's all done and dusted, but christ if you aren't in a battleship it's gonna take you a LONG time to complete this mission and yes i will be declining it in the future. The LP reward is minimal (I think i got 600 LP from a top Cal Navy agent) and the reward money is crap too (although the bounties are ok).
Sahjahn Caldari Black Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.21 09:54:00 - [15] just to add that like the OP said there are no warp scrams and that's the only thing saving this mission from disaster when ya first warp in. The tank on my Drake is pretty good and will tank most if not all LvL 4s but i must have had the resists setup wrong because they nearly dessimated it on the first jump in. A word of advice, don't warp to 0, it's not a deadspace thing so you can warp anywhere in it so warp to around 70Km, turn around and fly away, they are quick and will catch up but you'll take a lot less damage.
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.21 10:05:00 - [16] SHips move fast though, I was at sentry range and they were on me before I killed much.
Tek'a Rain Gallente Isis Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.21 14:17:00 - [17] remember the thing about new missions though, all you people saying "the reward is crap". the more people who accept it, take a long time, and eventually finish it, the higher it will slowly bump up. or have you forgotten the last big mission changes?
Rod Steel	Posted - 2007.03.21 20:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Zartmann I almost fall for a very similar situation... The mission was "Cargo Delivering" (or something like this)... YEAH ! GREAT ! New lvl 4 ! I jump on it ...and I was with my hauler (Badger II) and the mission ordered justo to do a pickup of 10 un Quafe...@ AN SERPENTIS outpost ...in Saila ? Sounds a little fishy, but the low payment LP/ISK ...ridicolous 143.000 got me convinced it will be a breeze... Warped to Saila... hummmmmm.... warp encounter Deadspace...ok, let¦s take a peek (still flying the Badger II WITH 10KK in cargo). As soon as I arrived... new scenario (Great one BTW)... no hostiles in sight... a container icon marking that outpost...I thought, well... let¦s grab it...started the aprouch on Serpentis outpost...and then !!! BANG ! Chat Windows blinks with text and the overview got crowded with blinkin BS ... !!! OMGWTF !!! ...warped out with an unbeliavable 5% of structure ! What a catch ! CCP got me ! Cool...let¦s have it their way... Jumped in o my Beloved&Mightfull CNR ...and 15 minutes later and a couple of consecutives waves of respaw ...All clear, Rats in the bag, got the salvager/loot ship and finished the job... I Say Thumbs up for this new mission script. But pls, just stop to lure us with low rewards... I almost lose that Hauler and the cargo...but taking all in consideration... What a nice rush of adrenaline! BTW the bounty and the loot worth the effort and the risk. /me 100% happy Carebear Mission Runner, thks for this new missions! I lov it! I got that one this morning, went to do it in my Gila, based on what the agent offered, and how long I had to do it and receive the bonus, but when I jumped through the gate and right clicked, and it said 'deadspace', I figured something was up, and went back and changed ships...bounties were good, but i got crappy loot.
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.03.22 04:27:00 - [19] Meh not a happy bunny atm, just lost a fully rigged up raven on this, first level 4 I had to leave and held any risk for me in about 4 months. Firstly it was tougher than I expected by the ISK/LP rewards... but its probably easily doable problem is the lag around since the patch jesus I hope its not the mission... Couldn't lock on to stuff, weapon lag, warp lag.. it was crazy. Anyway be aware guys, I am a big time mission ***** when I need cash, and this one just cost me... which is unusual..
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.22 05:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Imperius Blackheart Meh not a happy bunny atm, just lost a fully rigged up raven on this, first level 4 I had to leave and held any risk for me in about 4 months. Firstly it was tougher than I expected by the ISK/LP rewards... but its probably easily doable problem is the lag around since the patch jesus I hope its not the mission... Couldn't lock on to stuff, weapon lag, warp lag.. it was crazy. Anyway be aware guys, I am a big time mission ***** when I need cash, and this one just cost me... which is unusual.. Sorry to hear you lost your ship, nothing worse than a loss due to lack of intel. I got another new mission to try now "Suprise Suprise" but im a tad apprehensive seeing whats happend and the name lol
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.22 05:26:00 - [21] Nice gob of text to whine about "nerfing armor", which never really happened. // ORE MONGERS // Recruiting now.
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.22 05:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Nice gob of text to whine about "nerfing armor", which never really happened. Not even close, Although I cant say I liked the drop, Its acceptible, after all I stated that it was the vast amount of DPS was the problem and even if my tank had that couple extra percent it wouldnt have made much of a difference, no more than 2sec max. SO troll on somewhere else.
Ryysa North Face Force Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.22 05:58:00 - [23] hmph, I think this would be better suited for the missions forum. On the other hand, it's nice that CCP is doing some stuff to evolve PvE content. Atm PvE in eve can't really be compared to the quality of PvP. N.F.F. Recruitment
DrDemento Minmatar Cybot Galactica	Posted - 2007.03.22 06:13:00 - [24] Edited by: DrDemento on 22/03/2007 06:10:31 This mission ROCKS!!! Thanks ccp for bring the fun back to the game could you please make them harder a lot harder.

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