How hard is it to catch a frigate in low sec? I mean outside of sitting a smartbombing battleship where they would land near the gate, how hard is it? I have heard of a ton of people remote sensor boosting a Phobos and he could point anything outside of a shuttle or something before it warps off.

Don't encourage remote sebo horseshit please.

I'm not a sentry gun, popping frigates, how can I encourage rSEBO horseshit?

I was referring to the whole gatecamping bullcrap, not the post directly above mine.

To spell my point out a little more clearly... Creating an event encouraging and promoting stupid gatecamping techniques which damage solo/v small gang roams is pretty bad.

To spell my point out a little more clearly... Creating an event encouraging and promoting stupid gatecamping techniques which damage solo/v small gang roams is pretty bad.

What part of solo don't you understand. All of it probably.

I understand that solo PvP has been dead for a very long time now. The only thing that comes close is fake solo PvP which means using RR alts, bonus alts and scout alts to help.

Anyways this is straying away from the topic. So it is my understanding is that if the frigate can align and warp in under two seconds; anything outside of another frigate won't be able to catch it?

How hard is it to catch a frigate in low sec? I mean outside of sitting a smartbombing battleship where they would land near the gate, how hard is it? I have heard of a ton of people remote sensor boosting a Phobos and he could point anything outside of a shuttle or something before it warps off.

Has this toon been sold?

Yes, but that in no way qualifies me in knowing the ins and outs of everything frigate related.
[quote=Queue K'UmberKeep doing THAT!

You could just grow a pair and learn how to actually PvP frigate versus frigate and feel the rush of a close fight where you barely make it out in structure.

Oh wait you mean you want to shoot frigates in a T3 or a Battlecruiser?

And here I was thinking this was a PvP thread.

I understand that solo PvP has been dead for a very long time now. The only thing that comes close is fake solo PvP which means using RR alts, bonus alts and scout alts to help.

Anyways this is straying away from the topic. So it is my understanding is that if the frigate can align and warp in under two seconds; anything outside of another frigate won't be able to catch it?

No matter how high your scan res is, you can still have difficulties catching frigates due to lag (and possibly human reaction times if you don't have your overview set up correctly).

It's not lag, it's Eve operating in 1s ticks and not real time.

1st Tick: Targeting time (assuming not longer than 1s)
2nd Tick: Module Activates.

Best fast locking ship in lowsec is a Legion which can easily get interceptor levels of scan res. With one of those you can catch pretty much anything that doesn't cloak, but you don't see them all that often so generally in lowsec you can fly around with total impunity in a frig except for smartbombing BS but you'll often know where those are. If you're doing an event though... people will be able to catch frigates that are participating in a race or something unless they do the cloak + mwd trick.

Of course if gate camping is your primary income source I have a feeling you'll never be able to afford one in the first place. Gate camping, like suicide ganking is lowest common denominator PVP and is only really effective at enforcing Darwin's law IMO. For the rest of us, its just annoying.

I've made nearly 4b this month camping a gate a couple hours here and there this month.

Problem?

I'm not certain that we can simply assume that this is the way things work. I know that EVE has a 1 second tick, but obviously not everything operates on the tick. I would imagine that what happens is that events are processed on the 1 second tick, but the server processes them in such a way that real time consequences are maintained.

So for example, in this case the victim still gets caught:

0 seconds: ship A decloaks. (tick)
.5 seconds: Ship B starts targeting Ship A (.25 second targeting time)
.8 seconds: Ship A activates cloaking device
1 seconds: (tick)

Even though the server processes the events at .5 and .8 seconds at the same time, the server keeps the events in order (probably using a priority queue) Or in other words, the processing for tick 1 probably looks like this:
1) Ship B started targeting Ship A .5 seconds ago. Because the targeting time is .25 seconds, this means:
2) Ship B successfully targeted Ship A .25 seconds ago
3) Ship A's cloaking attempt failed, even though the command was received .2 seconds ago, because the server calculates that it should have been targeted .25 seconds ago (.25 > .2)

Of course, this is all just speculation and guesswork on my part.

I'm not certain that we can simply assume that this is the way things work. I know that EVE has a 1 second tick, but obviously not everything operates on the tick. I would imagine that what happens is that events are processed on the 1 second tick, but the server processes them in such a way that real time consequences are maintained.

So for example, in this case the victim still gets caught:

0 seconds: ship A decloaks. (tick)
.5 seconds: Ship B starts targeting Ship A (.25 second targeting time)
.8 seconds: Ship A activates cloaking device
1 seconds: (tick)

Even though the server processes the events at .5 and .8 seconds at the same time, the server keeps the events in order (probably using a priority queue) Or in other words, the processing for tick 1 probably looks like this:
1) Ship B started targeting Ship A .5 seconds ago. Because the targeting time is .25 seconds, this means:
2) Ship B successfully targeted Ship A .25 seconds ago
3) Ship A's cloaking attempt failed, even though the command was received .2 seconds ago, because the server calculates that it should have been targeted .25 seconds ago (.25 > .2)

Of course, this is all just speculation and guesswork on my part.

How hard is it to catch a frigate in low sec? I mean outside of sitting a smartbombing battleship where they would land near the gate, how hard is it? I have heard of a ton of people remote sensor boosting a Phobos and he could point anything outside of a shuttle or something before it warps off.

the 1second delay on disruptor activation, aka disruptor lag, is enough for most standard frigates to get through. my 1300 scan res broadsword or whatthefuckever WT killer isn't enough for frigs with some form of agility. if you're quick on the ctrl click you should catch most cucumbers though.

While looking at a combat log the other day, I noticed that as my pod was caught, I'd spamed 'warp to' eight times in one second (according to the log). Personally I didn't think it was possible to click a mouse button eight times in a single second. Then again, I really wanted to keep those implants...

Please explain how this works in the framework you posted above.