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Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2016.10.19 04:14:33 -
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I'm surprised the thread went for nearly 3 1/2 pages before switching to the old arguments about ganking.
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Posted - 2016.10.19 16:52:26 -
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@OP:
In addition to all the suggestions in the first 4 pages of the thread, have you tried talking to the guy yet?
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Posted - 2016.10.21 04:36:24 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:I am not sure why you are so obsessed with their statistic skills. It's not like this is some magic tool, it just basic math skills every software engineer learns.
Because the figures don't match his preconceived ideas.
The only logical conclusion in the face of compelling evidence contrary to a view, is to claim there may be something wrong with the figures.
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Posted - 2016.10.21 04:38:27 -
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pajedas wrote:Worst trolls and moderation I've seen in a while. Why ccp loves their little shank happy catalyst pilots is beyond me.
Hurry! Go cry to a moderator! Don't follow my sig down the rabbit hole (you might not make it out).
Not so much trolling, but I agree on the moderation aspect.
Everything since page 4 should just be deleted. The OP has been forgotten long ago it seems.
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Posted - 2016.10.21 04:49:47 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:I am not sure why you are so obsessed with their statistic skills. It's not like this is some magic tool, it just basic math skills every software engineer learns. Because the figures don't match his preconceived ideas. The only logical conclusion in the face of compelling evidence contrary to a view, is to claim there may be something wrong with the figures. Please show me this compelling evidence. A simple statement of CCPs showing how they determined the sample, why they excluded factors such as recruit a friend and the raw data they used will be just fine. That is compelling evidence. Not because they said so. I have not said something is wrong with the figures I have said the figures are useless because they cannot be proven to be statistically valid or not.
Yes, I'm sure the total issue is your lack of access to the primary data and not just CCP's conclusions.
If the figures supported your view, I'm sure you'd still be equally sceptical. Like, totally.
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Posted - 2016.10.21 06:08:52 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:Actually without being able to study there methodology that is about all you can say and even that might be stretching it.
But hey you seem to believe that anyone can perform a statistical study if they are determined enough.
Without putting your own credentials in public for all to see, why would CCP even think you are at all capable of studying their methodology?
I see very similar things all the time. People, unhappy with inconvenient information try to dismiss it because they personally haven't had the opportunity to verify it, even though quite often they aren't capable of making a reasonable judgement about it anyway.
It's everyone's right of course to place trust or not, where information can't be verified, just as we commonly do in situations where we can actually verify information but choose not to. However as a private company, CCP are under no obligation to release that information to its customers. They've told us what they believe to be the truth and for their business decisions, that's what counts. You can refuse to believe it, but so what?
You don't make decisions for CCP anymore that I do. So what we individually believe or not is irrelevant. It only matters what CCP believe about their data.
Ah damn. There I am all sucked into this totally off topic rubbish.
@OP: How did it work out for you. Did that other miner griefer get his just desserts?
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Posted - 2016.10.21 06:24:12 -
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Mark Marconi wrote:However it does not make it a fact or alter its use in areas outside the study. That is literally all I have been saying. That and I think they should ask Statistics Iceland to help them. the better their statistics the better the game will become and the longer it will live.
Nor does it make it false.
It is perfectly fine for others to quote the information they have been given by CCP and to question those that would call into question CCPs ability to divide 1/100 and write it as a percentage.
But, end of for me. Off topic, irrelevant crap isn't worth much time.
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