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MynChu NicAtoch
Atoch Family Holdings
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Posted - 2007.03.23 18:46:00 -
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Would this forum be improved if, when the moderators temporarily sanctioned an account from posting here, they made the sanction public and the character names it applied to? I can forsee a lot less annoying alt posts.
Myn
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Jordan Musgrat
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.23 18:51:00 -
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/signed.
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Jason Marshall
Emerald Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.23 18:54:00 -
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/signed
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Gungankllr
Caldari
STK Scientific
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 19:01:00 -
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I think that it is a good idea in premise, but unfortunately due to human nature it is rather subjective as to what is "trolling" and what is civilized disagreement.
For instance, if I say I believe someone is a tool, then that is trolling.
If I say I believe someone exhibits tool-like writing patterns, speech and general thought process, it may not really be trolling per se but a moderator can classify it as such.
I have several characters, some of which I highly value the anonymity they maintain.
I do not spam or troll with them, yet a simple mistake or an overstepping of a moderator will reveal them to everyone, which I wholeheartedly disagree with.
I do, however, think that a good start would be for alliances and corporations to keep their own databases of alt characters when they join, using login screens and such.
Periodically check the worst offenders versus your rosters.
Probably wouldn't work, due to the amount of legwork involved, but it's the only viable alternative I see.
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Xeron Silverblade
Esthar Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.23 19:09:00 -
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since they insist on the privacy of mod/gm convos with the players, they simply won't.. but it IS a good idea indeed...
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Alt Troll
Minmatar
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.23 19:17:00 -
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good idea!
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other mickey
Gallente
Galaxy Punks
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.23 20:00:00 -
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actually all we need are more in-game bans for accounts whose characters post in here in an unacceptable manner.
As to the subjectivity of what is or isn't a troll, if you have doubts about whether your post will be seen as trolling or a flame, then it probably is.
More bans will make people think twice before behaving inappropriately on here.
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Admiral Feelgood
Aionios Diadochi
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Posted - 2007.03.23 20:14:00 -
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 Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch
Would this forum be improved if, when the moderators temporarily sanctioned an account from posting here, they made the sanction public and the character names it applied to? I can forsee a lot less annoying alt posts.
Myn
Like the leper's colony on Something Awful? I agree emulating SA would improve the tenor of this forums greatly.
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Nez Sewers
Black Toilet.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 20:50:00 -
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Alts are "protected" or ebil spyzor won't work and game will become far worse.
Also there are people with accounts only for posting on forums.
You don't belive it? Ask Nez 
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Sewers
Alts are "protected" or ebil spyzor won't work and game will become far worse.
Also there are people with accounts only for posting on forums.
You don't belive it? Ask Nez
Yes thats right I have an employment history dating back to 2003, I was the founder of a corp thats still running strong (J.H.E.N.R), I helped found the QDF and then FIX, I was in Battle Angels briefly (the pre-cursor of Outbreak), I was present for the birth of PURE.... and all this...
... just so I could post on the forums.
I love the forums.
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BossNova
Guiding Star Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.23 21:21:00 -
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They should actually only allow one character per account and IP to post on the forums. Done. If two characters share either one account or one IP, you may only post with one of them, choice made every X period of time, say three months.
To make an alt post, you need both a second, paying account and a different IP. If you troll, at least you're paying $15 a month to do so.
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Liora Vahan
Gallente
Battle-Fleet Gothic
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Posted - 2007.03.23 21:27:00 -
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Perhaps simply limiting the forums to characters over a month old, it would stop people creating alts simply to post and then delete them.
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Nez Sewers
Black Toilet.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Alts are "protected" or ebil spyzor won't work and game will become far worse.
Also there are people with accounts only for posting on forums.
You don't belive it? Ask Nez
Yes thats right I have an employment history dating back to 2003, I was the founder of a corp thats still running strong (J.H.E.N.R), I helped found the QDF and then FIX, I was in Battle Angels briefly (the pre-cursor of Outbreak), I was present for the birth of PURE.... and all this...
... just so I could post on the forums.
I love the forums.
We are discussing Present, not Past. If you want medal you can write to McGreedy, I'm sure he will give you at least rank of centurion for the birth of Pure.
But thanks for admitting that in last 6+ months you have done nothing than post alot of crap on these forums.
See you... i hope not in sewers.
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.23 22:18:00 -
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It's fine the way it is, maybe you should just stop letting every single post you read get to you.
Just because an alt posted, doesn't mean you have to whine about it.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.03.23 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch
Would this forum be improved if, when the moderators temporarily sanctioned an account from posting here, they made the sanction public and the character names it applied to? I can forsee a lot less annoying alt posts.
Myn
Dubbel standart is great isnt it mynas?
use your main you nub
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.03.24 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Nez Sewers
Alts are "protected" or ebil spyzor won't work and game will become far worse.
Also there are people with accounts only for posting on forums.
You don't belive it? Ask Nez
Yes thats right I have an employment history dating back to 2003, I was the founder of a corp thats still running strong (J.H.E.N.R), I helped found the QDF and then FIX, I was in Battle Angels briefly (the pre-cursor of Outbreak), I was present for the birth of PURE.... and all this...
... just so I could post on the forums.
I love the forums.
post with your main
 
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.03.24 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Sewers
We are discussing Present, not Past.
Gee and I thought this thread was about "Improving the tenor of this forum". 
Originally by: Nez Sewers
If you want medal you can write to McGreedy, I'm sure he will give you at least rank of centurion for the birth of Pure.
But thanks for admitting that in last 6+ months you have done nothing than post alot of crap on these forums.
I really don't see what McGreedy has to do with PURE. but I'll sure to contact him if I need some saucy snapshots taken of my a$$.
Keep posting buddy ...you make me laugh, in a good way.
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Faith Black
Minmatar
Rolls Roids
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Posted - 2007.03.24 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z
It's fine the way it is, maybe you should just stop letting every single post you read get to you.
Just because an alt posted, doesn't mean you have to whine about it.
I agree to this. Some already start to whine, if an alt states an opinion they don't like, even if the alt posts reasonable without flaming.
Then the guessing starts, who's alt it is and usually people come to the conclusion that it's an alt of their most 'disliked' enemy, because who else would voice an opinion that they don't like ?
Some decades ago in the US, many people suspected a communist behind a person with a contrary opinion, in EVE people said 'BoB alt !' in the last weeks.
Ban him, burn him, kill him ! How dares he to voice a contrary opinion in disguise. He is dodging the wrath of the mob, the lamer !
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Cpt Psycho
The JORG Corporation
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.24 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: BossNova
They should actually only allow one character per account and IP to post on the forums. Done. If two characters share either one account or one IP, you may only post with one of them, choice made every X period of time, say three months.
To make an alt post, you need both a second, paying account and a different IP. If you troll, at least you're paying $15 a month to do so.
That is completely unrealistic and not well thought through at all tbh. What about someones room mate who plays eve? What about apartment building wide shared internet projects? What about any of the other 10 situations I can think of off the top of my head that would make it impossible if they limited posting to one character per one IP.
Only allowing one character to post per account would be cool but that could easily be bypassed by purchasing another account like many people do anyways so they can train skills on more than one character at once.
I agree something should be done about the alt posts to a point but what about some people that like to role play and want to have two completely different in game personas? I doubt they would ever make the changes because of issues such as this. |
patteSatan
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.24 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
I think that it is a good idea in premise, but unfortunately due to human nature it is rather subjective as to what is "trolling" and what is civilized disagreement.
For instance, if I say I believe someone is a tool, then that is trolling.
If I say I believe someone exhibits tool-like writing patterns, speech and general thought process, it may not really be trolling per se but a moderator can classify it as such.
I have several characters, some of which I highly value the anonymity they maintain.
I do not spam or troll with them, yet a simple mistake or an overstepping of a moderator will reveal them to everyone, which I wholeheartedly disagree with.
I do, however, think that a good start would be for alliances and corporations to keep their own databases of alt characters when they join, using login screens and such.
Periodically check the worst offenders versus your rosters.
Probably wouldn't work, due to the amount of legwork involved, but it's the only viable alternative I see.
signed
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...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
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Professor Mustache
Mustache University
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Posted - 2007.03.24 06:36:00 -
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an option to simply ignore a character or account would solve all of your problems with little to no effort for the moderators.
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SumDum
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.25 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: SumDum on 25/03/2007 06:10:18
Originally by: Professor Mustache
an option to simply ignore a character or account would solve all of your problems with little to no effort for the moderators.
Agreed. Maybe a checkbox somewhere big in the profile that is labeled "ignore all posts without content" or "ignore all non-relevant posts"
But then I never would have seen the OP, and never would have had the chance to post this. Also, no one would be able to read this post. The ripple effects of this might cause a tear in the space time continum. So you see, there would be a need for someone to 'balance' the power of this forum nerf, which would then require more programming.
How to pwn
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USN CVN72
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.25 06:17:00 -
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hehe i think we have more important things to worry about than these forums. If people would accept that this is a game then regardless what people have posted in forums it really doesnt mean anything and has little importance...
cheers...
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Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.25 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Mustache
an option to simply ignore a character or account would solve all of your problems with little to no effort for the moderators.
If you cant stand the smell in here, dont read anything, problem solved.
Originally by: Jiekon/CCP
If you are sitting with a guy and he says "ok, i'm logging off now" and you shoot him, that is fine.
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Frygok
Minmatar
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.25 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Frygok on 25/03/2007 11:02:13
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Originally by: Professor Mustache
an option to simply ignore a character or account would solve all of your problems with little to no effort for the moderators.
If you cant stand the smell in here, dont read anything, problem solved.
Disagree. I don't feel that the bull****ters should be the ones to post, and those who don't like to read racist irl comments should not be a part of these forums.
I do feel that ingame account bans would be a good way to stop people from trolling on 1-man corps. For instance, I have seen a certain alt from a corp called Euro Traders make the author of the battle report index give up, make references to Germany's history in regards to D2, make a post with 1 word(retard, I think it was), and another post that was moderated due to racist remarks.
How such a person can continue to post on these forums is beyond me, and frankly I do not feel it's me who should stop being here, but that person instead.
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Necronomicon
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 23:40:00 -
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I said a long time ago that upon an account being started, and forum access assigned, you would be given a choice of which char you could post with on that account. Once set, it was set in stone, hence you would be stuck with that char, and only that char to post with.
If ofc you sold your main, and replace it with a new one, then there would be a mechanism in place to petition for a forum reset, but that would be as far the flexibility of the system would go.
Anyone who posts with an alt, for whatever reason needs forum banning, if you dont have the kahoonas to post with your main, then you should not be allowed to post at all.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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