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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:12:00 -
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Just a quick thread to make all the poor folks feel better. Today, on one level 4 mission that I had not done before I cleared out all the hostiles and was taking down a station to see if the mission objective was inside. I assumed, for no good reason, I know, that all hostiles were gone, so I went afk for a couple of minutes. I came back to a pod. Nothing that dosent happend every day in EVE I guess. However the bill is a bit higher than usual:
Destroyed items:
1 Raven navy issue.
1 Corpum X-Type Heavy Nos.
1 Caldari Navy BCU.
1 Pith X-type Explosive Hardener.
1 Pith X-type Xlarge Shield Booster.
5 tech II cruise launchers.
1 tech II Invulnerability field.
1 tech II PDS
1 Dread guristas CPU.
Luckily I don't violate the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" rule, and will have another ship to same specc soon enough. Also luckily this particular ship had paid for itself allready... But its still my biggest loss in eve to date, and totally my fault. Losses at current market prices are in the 1.7-2b isk region. Ouchies... And no, no petition 
Anyone want to top this shining example of human error?
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Major Stormer on 24/03/2007 21:10:45
Ouch.
However I do honest wonder how people can mission so much to get such a huge amount of expensive stuff
I missioned this afternoon to get some badly needed cash, and by the time I was finished Darth was having to drag me away from attacking noobs in Jita
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:14:00 -
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how did you do that isk? missions? i'm curious lol
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Vily
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:16:00 -
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props to having the balls to laugh at yourself. we have all lost a battleship to afk-ness at some point. (although this one probably takes the cake)
who got you? the evil guristas?
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: RtoZ on 24/03/2007 21:16:34
I've posted on the economics of mission running before. Short version:
One very high specc battleship clearing out missions with minimal warp outs as fast as possible. One high specc salvage battlecruiser for looting as quick as possible. I don't salvage. Money made goes into trade to make more money. It adds up more than people think, and I enjoy making stuff as efficient as possible. The items lost give a clue to just how efficient that mission running ship was. It can clear guristas extravaganza in well under 2 hours (closer to 1 actually), and thats 50m isk+, which makes more isk in trade... which makes more isk in trade... which makes more isk in trade... 
Also, the main earner in missions is loyalty points, you can focus on the offers you want. I made 1.2b isk profit on a 2 run navy raven bpc. Thats the key to making money with missions, cashing in on the right offers. Similar profits can be made off the +5 implant offers these days.
Edit: I was killed by krulls henchmen...
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Snake Doctor
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:22:00 -
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ouch.
sorry dude, sucks to be you... :(
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:23:00 -
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Ouchies... And no, no petition
Props to you. I have lost a ship the same way which was expensive for me at the time.
And to all the naysayers out there who babble on about how "mission running isn't profitable enough" and that "CCP hates PvE": this is just one more example that you're obviously just doing it wrong.
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.24 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: RtoZ
Just a quick thread to make all the poor folks feel better. Today, on one level 4 mission that I had not done before I cleared out all the hostiles and was taking down a station to see if the mission objective was inside. I assumed, for no good reason, I know, that all hostiles were gone, so I went afk for a couple of minutes. I came back to a pod. Nothing that dosent happend every day in EVE I guess. However the bill is a bit higher than usual:
Destroyed items:
1 Raven navy issue.
1 Corpum X-Type Heavy Nos.
1 Caldari Navy BCU.
1 Pith X-type Explosive Hardener.
1 Pith X-type Xlarge Shield Booster.
5 tech II cruise launchers.
1 tech II Invulnerability field.
1 tech II PDS
1 Dread guristas CPU.
Luckily I don't violate the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" rule, and will have another ship to same specc soon enough. Also luckily this particular ship had paid for itself allready... But its still my biggest loss in eve to date, and totally my fault. Losses at current market prices are in the 1.7-2b isk region. Ouchies... And no, no petition
Anyone want to top this shining example of human error?
I know i suffered a horrible lose the other day. I lost a hulk because I went afk for 10 minutes to fix my mothers computer. I cam back and my hulk was no where to be seen and my pod was sitting there smiling. worst part was this was in a .7 sec system. and to top it off, I just got in it today. Luckily, it was insured, and I had enough spare cash to buy a new one.
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Tunajuice
Convergent
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.24 22:02:00 -
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Luckily, it was insured
Lol hows the 20 mil insurance on a 600 mil ship treating you?
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Kaalen
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.24 22:27:00 -
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You have my respect for not petitioning it. Ouch on that loss, though.
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Asimov Andies
Gallente
Red Blade Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.24 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Asimov Andies on 24/03/2007 22:28:56
Originally by: Tunajuice
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Luckily, it was insured
Lol hows the 20 mil insurance on a 600 mil ship treating you?
Better than 20k for 500M ship (for that is the price I bought it at both times). Let me just say, my wallet looks alot like my desk right now, bare essentials.
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Jotan Veer
Wings of Turul
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.24 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: RtoZ
Edit: I was killed by krulls henchmen...
Heh, I helped to do the same mission today for a friend, there are like 2 more waves of various stuff spawning at different stages, they have high dps too. Also there is a nasty surprise at the very end that almost waporized our salvage ship....lmao.
Curious though, why don't you fit for a perma tank setup? Like a Gist B type booster with faction shield boost amplifiers? Then you can go afk if you so desire.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.24 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Asimov Andies
I lost a hulk because I went afk for 10 minutes to fix my mothers computer. I cam back and my hulk was no where to be seen and my pod was sitting there smiling. worst part was this was in a .7 sec system.
Why were you in a Hulk without the "Official Hulk Tank" setup? I mean, that is practically what it is for...doesn't mine all that much better than a Covetor but what it does have it tankability. With its tank running it can weather many 0.0 spawns. A 0.7 spawn you could let it sit all day and it wouldn't die. Sure the tank adds another hefty price tag to the ship but still a lot less than a new Hulk.
Also, you probably should have waited to buy a Hulk. Everyone and their dog are trying to Invent Hulks now that the latest patch allows it. Hulk prices are bound to come down dramatically. They may never be cheap but not 500-600 mil either I expect.
All that said I can't claim non-noobishness. A few nights ago after getting home from the pub (clue right there) I fell asleep (ok, passed out) testing a fitting out on my Absolution in a L3 mission. Woke up and logged back in to my pod. What cargo survived popped. Not near as valuable a loss as the OP but still about 400 mil down the drain for no good reason. Ah well...
I petitioned CCP for a breathalyzer to prevent me from playing in that state in the future. Haven't heard back yet.
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sableye
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.24 23:27:00 -
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ouch thats got to hurt I've losta few ships to going afk my last was on christmas day I was doing a mission in my diemos (tech 2 fitted) I don'nt even normally do missions I figured I;d just do one for christmas day an I had taken my main back to empire and wanted to take myd eimos for spin and the worst thing is it was a level 2 mission I started mission and then got call that there was a pvp op going on, for some reason I just logge din my other character and ttoally forgot I was doing a mission I only remember 2 hours later after the op and I was sitting there in a pod :( worst thing was I wan'nt even drunk which has caused quite a few afk losses when I fall asleep by acident :).
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.03.24 23:27:00 -
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I was intending to try out a permatank setup soon [tm]. The Gist booster is a bit more expensive than the pith and I like to have high resists over shield boosting. It is very rare for me to let my guard down and go afk like that, but as this whole episode shows it only takes once.
Maybe on my next CNR now.
Anyways, the whole point here is its just a game... where I lost a 2b isk ship 
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr Navy Runners
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Posted - 2007.03.25 00:01:00 -
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I'm rather surprised that an obviously experienced mission runner as yourself would go afk in a new mission that you don't know the ins and outs of yet.
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DarkElf
Caldari
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:30:00 -
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Gutted. least u can replace it. And i never mind losing ships when they have paid for themselves in loot.
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:32:00 -
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Why the hell was this moved to crime and punishment? he was killed by rats afk on a mission....could it be more carebear?
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Tharsgaard
Caldari
Delta Troop 4th Cavalry Space Forces
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: kublai
Why the hell was this moved to crime and punishment? he was killed by rats afk on a mission....could it be more carebear?
Crime - going AFK in a Faction fitted CNR on a mission he had never done before,
Punishment - He lost the lot.
Sry bout yer loss bud, good too see that see that there are more people out there that dont sweat over losing pixels. 
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tharsgaard
Originally by: kublai
Why the hell was this moved to crime and punishment? he was killed by rats afk on a mission....could it be more carebear?
Crime - going AFK in a Faction fitted CNR on a mission he had never done before,
Punishment - He lost the lot.
Sry bout yer loss bud, good too see that see that there are more people out there that dont sweat over losing pixels.
The crime was doing missions in the first place, you forget which forum you're in.
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DarkElf
Caldari
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: kublai
Why the hell was this moved to crime and punishment? he was killed by rats afk on a mission....could it be more carebear?
so true. mission section me thinks
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Tharsgaard
Caldari
Delta Troop 4th Cavalry Space Forces
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Posted - 2007.03.25 09:50:00 -
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I guess the mod had a bigger sense of humour than most.
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Nymos
Fimbulvintr
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Posted - 2007.03.25 10:05:00 -
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hmm what happened? noone replied with "need more proof that mission running is too profitable"? 
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.25 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tharsgaard
I guess the mod had a bigger sense of humour than most.
Or it's the same incompetent mod that has been edithing threads wrongly without bothering to add his signature to the moderation.
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Kehmor
Caldari
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.03.25 11:19:00 -
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This is the perfect place for this thread.
In the mission forum it would merely get a barrage of "zomg noob" posts. Here i gives all the pirates a good chuckle.
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.03.25 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: RtoZ on 25/03/2007 15:54:37
It also gives the pirates a clue of what's involved in running level 4 missions as an eve career. Sure, its lower risk, but when the low risk catches up with you... ouchies...
I was gonna ask why this was moved here but then I realised and laughed. Well, 100k lp to go for my next cnr offer... time to get the regular raven out of mothballs...
Allthough most CNR's pay for themselves, and yes, I'm richer than most EVE players, it would still be nice to be able to insure the thing. I mean, its insurance is way lower than the isk you have to put in to accept the offer... EVE is like the oposite of the real world, the more expensive the item, the less security you get. Noobs can allmost lose ships and make a profit... 
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: RtoZ
Edited by: RtoZ on 25/03/2007 15:54:37
It also gives the pirates a clue of what's involved in running level 4 missions as an eve career. Sure, its lower risk, but when the low risk catches up with you... ouchies...
I was gonna ask why this was moved here but then I realised and laughed. Well, 100k lp to go for my next cnr offer... time to get the regular raven out of mothballs...
Allthough most CNR's pay for themselves, and yes, I'm richer than most EVE players, it would still be nice to be able to insure the thing. I mean, its insurance is way lower than the isk you have to put in to accept the offer... EVE is like the oposite of the real world, the more expensive the item, the less security you get. Noobs can allmost lose ships and make a profit...
I have combat ships more expensive than that tbh.
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:06:00 -
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Expensive is a relative term I guess. A lot of people are in a position where a 500m ship is a dream, while others can afford to replace 5b ships every other week. Depends which loop you're in.
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:36:00 -
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Good to see you taking it on the chin :)
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kill0rbunny
Chimera Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2007.03.25 21:06:00 -
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It is easy to perma-run a gist booster on a cnr.
Try that for next time and don't switch it off.
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