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Kam SingDu'k
Singularity. The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kam SingDu''k on 25/03/2007 16:50:11
Originally by: Hani EQ IAC did in fact use spies to offline our POS in FAT. We have historically had a lot of respect for IAC. You were always up for a fight and shared many ideals that Fix holds close to our hearts. Whenever we'd meet, you always kept things respectful, challenging and fun for both our pilots and yours.
We are very disappointed that you decided not to contest the towers in the manner we have come to expect from IAC, a face to face fight. We do however consider it as a compliment that although you are twice our size and your allied forces vastly outnumber us, you have chosen to take this path. Enjoy this small step sideways, I assure you it will only lead to rapid stumble backwards.
Fix pilots, please stay out of the rest of this thread. As always, our place is on the field, we will continue to fight there and not here.
So what? you are condemning IAC for using spies which makes it dishonourable....yet you are allies with the 'honourable' Band of Brothers alliance??? Need you be reminded of the ASCN war (where spies were used AND openly admitted), the events leading up to t20, one of the CEO's being 'sworn to secrecy'... need I say more????
Hypocrisy ftw fellers
Admit it, you are just ****ed off that they had the upper hand over you guys.
As for those arguing about moral high ground vs bob, there is none. Just hatred (in-game of course hehe), and thats why I enjoy eve.
oh and gj IAC
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Kam SingDu'k
Singularity. The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kam SingDu''k on 25/03/2007 16:50:11
Originally by: Hani EQ IAC did in fact use spies to offline our POS in FAT. We have historically had a lot of respect for IAC. You were always up for a fight and shared many ideals that Fix holds close to our hearts. Whenever we'd meet, you always kept things respectful, challenging and fun for both our pilots and yours.
We are very disappointed that you decided not to contest the towers in the manner we have come to expect from IAC, a face to face fight. We do however consider it as a compliment that although you are twice our size and your allied forces vastly outnumber us, you have chosen to take this path. Enjoy this small step sideways, I assure you it will only lead to rapid stumble backwards.
Fix pilots, please stay out of the rest of this thread. As always, our place is on the field, we will continue to fight there and not here.
So what? you are condemning IAC for using spies which makes it dishonourable....yet you are allies with the 'honourable' Band of Brothers alliance??? Need you be reminded of the ASCN war (where spies were used AND openly admitted), the events leading up to t20, one of the CEO's being 'sworn to secrecy'... need I say more????
Hypocrisy ftw fellers
Admit it, you are just ****ed off that they had the upper hand over you guys.
As for those arguing about moral high ground vs bob, there is none. Just hatred (in-game of course hehe), and thats why I enjoy eve.
oh and gj IAC
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Originally by: Blazing Furii *snip* Posting with an unidentified character or posting with characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Eldo Davip ([email protected])
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:56:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk <3 for pet stalker
Kustra FIRE? Deus Ex Machina
Dunno?
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Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.25 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Susan Acid on 25/03/2007 17:02:11
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk <3 for pet stalker
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 17:08:00 -
[95]
yay us.
I love IAC propoganda, there are so many people who seem to hate us and these threads definitly bring them out in the open for us all to chuckle at.
Now back to the topic, yes we may have used some dirty tactics to accomplish what we did but by doing so we probably saved a good few coalition dreads from dieing to bob swarm that would have attacked had we done the POS the old fashioned way. Fighting dirty has also been a part of war, those who do not use assests given to them will lose.
However I also do love a good fight and can see why all the FIX are ****ed off that we didn't give them a fight because i would feel the same way.
Oh well, maybe next time we will give you the fight you want. But for today we will have our cake and eat it to. -------------------------------------------------
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Tequilapepper
Amarr Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.25 17:17:00 -
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AS pointed out from James Don, plz all FIX stay out of this thread. The fact is uncontestable and the consequences too. You won't be able to convince anyone to change their mind, so discussion is pointless first of all.
The facts are those, everyone will judge them with their mind. Good, bad, fair, unfair, lame or not. Does not change anything.
We know just one way to fight, and that way we'll bring on. Just as personal comment, the press release was little out of contest, Tyrrax showed his mastery in offence.
Respectfully (always)
Tequilapepper
FIX Grunt
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.25 18:16:00 -
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Why is the word "action" in the thread title? There was no action. Just another gimp meta-game effort with a spy off-lining towers. Woohoo -- that's some kinda action. That's pretty much the only way IAC wins anything these days. They couldn't even beat ISS in a stand-up fight, needing spies, goonies, and a pack of allies. Think of them as the FLA of the south, with AAA filling the role of D2, letting them occupy space as long as they feed the outposts and don't get in the way.
The upside here is that when the inevitable happens and alts in IAC start offlining towers, there won't be any squealing from IAC nor the Coalition about that. It'll just be one awesome meta-game fest!
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boogaboob
Caldari BIG Advanced Assault Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee Why is the word "action" in the thread title? There was no action. Just another gimp meta-game effort with a spy off-lining towers. Woohoo -- that's some kinda action. That's pretty much the only way IAC wins anything these days. They couldn't even beat ISS in a stand-up fight, needing spies, goonies, and a pack of allies. Think of them as the FLA of the south, with AAA filling the role of D2, letting them occupy space as long as they feed the outposts and don't get in the way.
The upside here is that when the inevitable happens and alts in IAC start offlining towers, there won't be any squealing from IAC nor the Coalition about that. It'll just be one awesome meta-game fest!
Wow... You got some serious hatin' goin' on there man...
Relax... Take a load off...
It's all good man!
(PS, spies offlining towers isn't metagaming, dummy)
Signatures done by me! Evemail me! Anyone? No? Aww...
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Vando on 25/03/2007 18:23:22
Originally by: The Dokter So you still offlined a pos by using a spy. The same tactics all of the Coalition where condemning when BOB used them
ALL of the Coalition? My my, we ARE loving throwing our little generalisations around today aren't we?
I find it hard to believe that Tyrrax will be on record anywhere saying spies are 'teh bads' -- Sig removed. Please keep sigs related to Eve and your in game persona- Kaemonn ([email protected]) |
DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee Why is the word "action" in the thread title? There was no action. Just another gimp meta-game effort with a spy off-lining towers. Woohoo -- that's some kinda action. That's pretty much the only way IAC wins anything these days. They couldn't even beat ISS in a stand-up fight, needing spies, goonies, and a pack of allies. Think of them as the FLA of the south, with AAA filling the role of D2, letting them occupy space as long as they feed the outposts and don't get in the way.
The upside here is that when the inevitable happens and alts in IAC start offlining towers, there won't be any squealing from IAC nor the Coalition about that. It'll just be one awesome meta-game fest!
oh my, seems the hostile alt isn't a student of history.
Anyway, since the first part of your statement is false let me address the true part.
I know there are spy alts in IAC, in fact ive discussed topics in our secure forums with people from the MC, But as to a spy being able to offline every tower in one of station systems, i would deem that to be nearly impossible due to the way we have our towers set. Though if it does happen somewhere down the line, we will just have to be ready for it and respond faster then FIX did. -------------------------------------------------
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Ivo D
Minmatar 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.25 18:57:00 -
[101]
oh my, iac won \o/ i totally admire your skills
double standard 4tl. u fight against the ones that you claim to be meta gaming, even though u have vastly superior numbers over them, and yet you need spies.
isnt BoB's use of spies and meta gaming what is supposed to be the reason you bandwagonned against them the first place ?
jebus... it is a game, why dont you play it the way it is suposed to be played and actually keep your word ?
other than that.. congrats.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ivo D isnt BoB's use of spies and meta gaming what is supposed to be the reason you bandwagonned against them the first place ?
Guys has someone been feeding you talking *******s juice today? Where did THAT theory for the killing of BoB come from? -- Sig removed. Please keep sigs related to Eve and your in game persona- Kaemonn ([email protected]) |
elchief
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 19:15:00 -
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jeez guys both sides need to stop complaining about the others tactics.. this is a war that i assume no one wants to loose... There will be drity under handed tactics from both sides i also lol`d at the fix post saying they want straight up fights vs iac, if this is so why when you were putting these ten towers up was there 100+ bob in fat-6p and 30+ cap ships sitting nearby waiting to jump in on top of our fleet? doesnt seem like a fair face to face fight to me. AAAnyhoo iac please stop spamming this thread other than the exec team please dont need forum spammage causeing more hassle than its worth cheers mins chief http://members.aardvark.net.au/spacefrog/pics/elchief.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo |
dastommy79
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.25 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee Why is the word "action" in the thread title? There was no action. Just another gimp meta-game effort with a spy off-lining towers. Woohoo -- that's some kinda action. That's pretty much the only way IAC wins anything these days. They couldn't even beat ISS in a stand-up fight, needing spies, goonies, and a pack of allies. Think of them as the FLA of the south, with AAA filling the role of D2, letting them occupy space as long as they feed the outposts and don't get in the way.
The upside here is that when the inevitable happens and alts in IAC start offlining towers, there won't be any squealing from IAC nor the Coalition about that. It'll just be one awesome meta-game fest!
Who are you agian?
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Havras
The Syndicate Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.25 19:35:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Helina Malinos So you happened to find some POS that where off line and your capitals where ready to shoot them.
Pathetic TBH, if you gona use spys to off line POS, don't go beating ur chest about it.
Me think the coalition has lost track of there purpose and turning to laim tactics that was the reason for the war in the first place me thinks?
sad day indeed
LOL. Funny stuff.... considering BOB did this when they got a spy/traitor to do it against ASCN in OOYZ and didn't see you telling them to not beat their chest about it.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ivo D double standard 4tl. u fight against the ones that you claim to be meta gaming, even though u have vastly superior numbers over them, and yet you need spies.
Ummmm no ? Our reasons for going to war with BoB are dislike, politics, geography, nothing to do with their ebil metagaming.
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isnt BoB's use of spies and meta gaming what is supposed to be the reason you bandwagonned against them the first place ?
No?
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jebus... it is a game, why dont you play it the way it is suposed to be played and actually keep your word ?
Please point out where we broke it.
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee Why is the word "action" in the thread title? There was no action. Just another gimp meta-game effort with a spy off-lining towers. Woohoo -- that's some kinda action. That's pretty much the only way IAC wins anything these days. They couldn't even beat ISS in a stand-up fight, needing spies, goonies, and a pack of allies. Think of them as the FLA of the south, with AAA filling the role of D2, letting them occupy space as long as they feed the outposts and don't get in the way.
The upside here is that when the inevitable happens and alts in IAC start offlining towers, there won't be any squealing from IAC nor the Coalition about that. It'll just be one awesome meta-game fest!
There was plenty of Player vs POS action ! Lots of capital ships and a lil bit of players losing their ships, all that awesome action aside, I suggest a dictionary if you wish to find out why "action" makes perfect sense in the context I put it in in the thread title.
Regarding beating ISS in a stand-up fight, when were they ever alone for us to 1v1 their alliance ? First they had MC/FIX/LV/veto then later U'K in all their fleets, they superblobbed first kthx.
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Ivo D
Minmatar 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.25 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Ivo D double standard 4tl. u fight against the ones that you claim to be meta gaming, even though u have vastly superior numbers over them, and yet you need spies.
Ummmm no ? Our reasons for going to war with BoB are dislike, politics, geography, nothing to do with their ebil metagaming.
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isnt BoB's use of spies and meta gaming what is supposed to be the reason you bandwagonned against them the first place ?
No?
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jebus... it is a game, why dont you play it the way it is suposed to be played and actually keep your word ?
Please point out where we broke it.
the whole point of the so called coaliotion that is lead by ragoon was "to rid eve of the evil that is BoB". so by aligning yourself to the coallition, and joining it whether you like it or not your actions are viewed as those of the coalition.
so the reason for joining the coallition isnt what is said to be the reason behind its creation the first place.its just to get some more 0.0 and some 10/10 if your other noble allies from ra dont claim them first :)
so pls dont try to make it look as you have the moral high ground :) if u were honest enough you could at least say that you dont actually fight for fun or for some noble goals. you are in just to outblob and because otherwise you wont stand 3 days against aaa or the goonies :)
oh and pls dont bother to answer, or even try to smack :)
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Myz Toyou
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.25 20:18:00 -
[108]
I see alot of bitterness from the same people that were cheering 3 month ago to there masters and their "masterpiece" of metagaming !
What goes around, comes around
CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 20:18:00 -
[109]
You really don't have the faintest clue what you're talking about, so why talk about it ?
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vladdy2
VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.25 20:20:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Hani EQ IAC did in fact use spies to offline our POS in FAT. We have historically had a lot of respect for IAC. You were always up for a fight and shared many ideals that Fix holds close to our hearts. Whenever we'd meet, you always kept things respectful, challenging and fun for both our pilots and yours.
We are very disappointed that you decided not to contest the towers in the manner we have come to expect from IAC, a face to face fight. We do however consider it as a compliment that although you are twice our size and your allied forces vastly outnumber us, you have chosen to take this path. Enjoy this small step sideways, I assure you it will only lead to rapid stumble backwards.
Fix pilots, please stay out of the rest of this thread. As always, our place is on the field, we will continue to fight there and not here.
wait wait, let me get this correct, BOB do this stuff all the time, and ya'll cheer their mastery of the game and the wnage of "muppets" that are their enemies. NOW it happens to you and you whinge about it? oh Come on really
and yes i know it may or may not be the "you" you but same ole. yeh moving on.............. ---------------------------------
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.25 20:22:00 -
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Oh, I almost forgot.
Please pass along my regards to FIX. Yodaron and Dark Shikari, this one's for you.
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Chienka
CAOD posting corp.
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Posted - 2007.03.25 21:42:00 -
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Ahaha its like the ASCN pos wars all over again!
"Spam their systems with larges!"
"Wheres the fuel?"
"Its coming!"
"No wait..."
*starbase online*
WARNING LOW FUEL!
@ fix
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Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.03.25 21:44:00 -
[113]
FAT meet 0OY.
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BuIIseye
Amarr ROMELITE
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Posted - 2007.03.25 23:11:00 -
[114]
Correct me if i'm wrong but the way i understand it, its not the fact that (if) IAC used dirty tactics, its the fact that they posted a Official Announcement stating that FIX where dumb and didn't fuel their pos's.
But then again i'm just a alt in a 2 man corp in a command ship
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.25 23:18:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Ivo D the whole point of the so called coaliotion that is lead by ragoon was "to rid eve of the evil that is BoB". so by aligning yourself to the coallition, and joining it whether you like it or not your actions are viewed as those of the coalition.
so the reason for joining the coallition isnt what is said to be the reason behind its creation the first place.its just to get some more 0.0 and some 10/10 if your other noble allies from ra dont claim them first :)
And there was me thinking BoB declared war on RaGoon, resulting in the north retaliating due to the RaGoon/D2 mutual defense pact . Oh well...
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Gomez Chou
Gallente Nexus Analytics
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Posted - 2007.03.25 23:59:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Entilzah Valen Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 25/03/2007 13:27:46 Deacon Bob in the Conservatory with Gomez Chou with Ish Bosheth with the rope from Goonfleet?
It's freakeh **** man!
I am Omnipotent like that.
What exactly is this supposed to mean? I've been out of Black Avatar for at least a week now, as has Ish Bosheth, and IIRC I helped plant at least the initial towers in the first place. The utter lack of respect shown by fix in the course of my career with them was the reason for my leaving, but since, I've been busy with work of my own. I don't have much respect for certain members and ex-members of FiX, but BeakerJoe is a ******* amazing guy, and I wouldn't pull some **** like this. Hell, if anything, why would I go to the trouble of doing the things i've done for BA/FiX in the first place, just so I could undo it? Omnipotent? You're a *******.
Deacon Bob's not on much, but he's a hard worker and an honorable guy. Don't know what business his name has coming out of your mouth. You and I have had our disagreements in the past, but slagging a guy just because he shares a corp history is pretty raw, considering yours.
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Perellin
Starship Direct
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Posted - 2007.03.26 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ivo D isnt BoB's use of spies and meta gaming what is supposed to be the reason you bandwagonned against them the first place ?
No, BoB are being bandwagoned because their directorate knowingly received secret information from a developer who they knowingly had managing their capital fleet, and when he left they received T2 BPOs from him which turned out to have been procured illegally by the dev, and when this was discovered they weren't penalised beyond the simple removal of the BPOs from which they had profited for so long, and since then they have been boastful about their disgusting cheating, labelling their ships with DEV tags etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with "metagaming", and a little to do with their outrageous smack against their enemies over the past year (especially their complete and unsportsmanlike refusal to offer CYVOK any dignity over the loss of ASCN's titan).
I assume that you are actually a coalition alt since you are prompting people to re-air BoB's filthy laundry by pretending not to understand how low their leaders sunk to try to "win Eve". |
celous
Caldari Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2007.03.26 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 25/03/2007 15:23:28
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Goon alts in FIX corps offlining poses in FAT.
Incorrect
No Sir I believe its True. IAC always lying and No way 10 POS goes off line due to bad management. Maybe one or two but not ten POS. So please Cut ur crap and STFU for once and tell the truth.
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Mimiru
Gallente BIG Advanced Assault Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.26 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: celous
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 25/03/2007 15:23:28
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Goon alts in FIX corps offlining poses in FAT.
Incorrect
No Sir I believe its True. IAC always lying and No way 10 POS goes off line due to bad management. Maybe one or two but not ten POS. So please Cut ur crap and STFU for once and tell the truth.
All Tyrrax said was it wasnt a goon spy ---------
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.03.26 04:43:00 -
[120]
Hax! ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:(((( |
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