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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.23 10:50:00 -
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http://www.gamespy.com/goty2003/pc/index18.shtml
Quote: Whatever gameplay flaws EVE Online had as a massively multiplayer online game, one thing everybody can agree on is that the game is just jaw-droppingly beautiful. Space in EVE Online is stunning -- filled with colored nebulae and planets surrounded by rings of debris. Space stations and ships look incredibly cool, but none of that holds a candle to the avatar creation system. The easy to use yet powerful system for creating a unique look for your character should be a model for every other MMO in existence. If you're looking for a game to show off the power of your new graphics card, this is it.
Their 100% right... shame customer support is a nightmare.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.23 10:51:00 -
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a href= http://www.gamespy.com/goty2003/pc/index18.shtml target= _blank http://www.gamespy.com/goty2003/pc/index18.shtml /a the clickable link. __________________________
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2003.12.23 11:00:00 -
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Hmm, yeah shame eye-candy doesnt make a good game hu? If I want nice scenery Ill open the window and take a look outside, eventhough its not so great either ;-)
How about pay a sub for those gamespy guys and have them experience the frustration with eve to give a realistic view on things. Maybe the colored nebulas and planets become bleak ;-)
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Rytir
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Posted - 2003.12.23 11:15:00 -
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Ruffio,
If you took the time to click on the link you would see it's Gamespys "2003 best graphics" not gameplay.
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BlackPlague
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Posted - 2003.12.23 11:29:00 -
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It's funny... if you read the review GS did on eve in June... things they mention as "bad" havent gotten better but worse since then..
"....The game is loaded with bugs, server issues and some customer service nightmares..."
"...One of the most serious is a nasty crash bug that causes player's characters to get "stuck" during transitions. This might cause the character to disappear into the electronic ether..."
"...Traveling is even worse....I set my route on the map and found that it would take 19 stargate jumps to reach it. I clicked on my autopilot and 45 minutes later I finally arrived. The best part was that while I was waiting, I went out, picked up lunch, and got my car detailed...."
But they did say it was pretty....
My Siggie Scares Seleene... Boo! |

kurg
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Posted - 2003.12.23 11:49:00 -
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actually I started playing around the 1st of october..
back then the game was insanely buggy (windows diappearing ctd's etc.) Also a lot of the game aspect were just nuts: like NPC-farming... what the heel was that about.. and BS-mining.. jesus christ!
around 1238 or 54 it got a LOT more stable, and with castor, a lot of the game issues has been fixed..
Ofcourse if you have been relying on those 'holes' in the game then you need to find something new to do, but really isnt this what makes the game fun?
Ive tried most of the different approaches (not pirating though) to the game, and what really makes it fun is variation.
AND! if you like I and our corp dig into the roleplay part of the game it gets much better (though I feel things are moving a bit slow atm probably due to getting castor solidified, and getting some more players?)
In any case I enjoy the game MUCH more now than before castor
THUMBS UP!
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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kurg
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Posted - 2003.12.23 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: kurg on 23/12/2003 11:50:43 Oh and YES it is probably the best graphically designed game, at least of its theme, all the other ones look like s-hite (darn filter) compared, even swg
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2003.12.23 12:39:00 -
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it's as my mate put it.
"Eve looks fking sweet, but i don't have a fking clue where to begin". Reverend Necrona |

Madcow
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Posted - 2003.12.23 12:55:00 -
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hehe yeah getting started with this game is hard at least I had to learn it without any tutorials it took me like 50 minutes until I found out that I could move my ship by double clicking. ______________________ I am just a crazy cow |

MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.12.23 13:08:00 -
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Never listen to (pr)reviewers. They all talk crap.
Mai's Idealog |

Ylang Star
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Posted - 2003.12.23 13:12:00 -
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Quote: Never listen to (pr)reviewers. They all talk crap.
True, but they influence a lot of people.
"I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it." |

Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.23 13:20:00 -
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IMO game magazine and website reviewers are not qualified to review MMOG's unless they actually play the game properly over several weeks.
You can't playtest EVE or any other MMOG during your 30 minute lunchbreak. If you do you will always come to the same conclusion. |

MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.12.23 13:32:00 -
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That doesn¦t only apply to MMOGs Gan. The problem with reviewers is that they almost everytime write down biased opinions. There have been so many games that got crap reviews which I really loved. Other games have gotten 90%+ reviews while the game actually was nothing but a big buggy POS to me (Unreal 2 in my case).
You can¦t really judge games. Games are pretty much like music. They may be total bs to some people, but others may happen to love them. you have to try them out yourself to really see if they¦re good or not. Just don¦t let some little d-head judge games for you, because those guys think they have the ultimate wisdom almost everytime and they almost always think that their opinion is actually worth anything.
Look at their eve-review. Hell... the guy took 45 minutes to to a 14 jump trip How in god¦s name is someone that slow supposed to do a good review?
There are only very few magazines and websites actually doing fairly good reviews, but even their opinions are biased in many cases.
Mai's Idealog |

kurg
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Posted - 2003.12.23 13:39:00 -
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reviews often give rave reviews to the 'quick fix' games that are easy to get into (and get out of)
but games that live off depth rarely get great reviews.
I noticed Tron got a reward for 'story' well I guess the reviewrs didnt give it the time to dvelve into EVE's storyline (many whiners doesnt too)
The RP part of eve is definately its greatest unused potential
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.23 13:40:00 -
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Combat is similarly non-interactive. Just like mining, fighting consists of merely acquiring a target and turning on your weapons. Who wins is entirely dependent on who's got better equipment and which character's avatar has better skills.
I hate bad reviews.
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kurg
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Posted - 2003.12.23 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: kurg on 23/12/2003 13:54:20
Quote: Combat is similarly non-interactive. Just like mining, fighting consists of merely acquiring a target and turning on your weapons. Who wins is entirely dependent on who's got better equipment and which character's avatar has better skills.
This completely ignores the strategic element but there is some element of truth in teh comment, still a big part of the game is acquireing these skills and modules etc. Ofcourse a CS addict wouldnt understand..
Still the 'BS for everyone' situation in Gemini was ****, the game would be far better off with ppl in frigs cruisers and indys, and a few rare BS's
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Sarena Sparrow
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Posted - 2003.12.23 15:02:00 -
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No one can say that EVE is not beautiful. That is a large part of the reason I say, post Castro. But will it be enough forever? Hmm...
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Kor Kolom
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Posted - 2003.12.23 15:32:00 -
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Quote: Combat is similarly non-interactive. Just like mining, fighting consists of merely acquiring a target and turning on your weapons. Who wins is entirely dependent on who's got better equipment and which character's avatar has better skills.
I hate bad reviews.
LMAO strategy lol what strategy is there?
if u have 2 identical ships and u equip them with your basic mods--webs warps dirup-dampers whatever, all that counts is WHO GETS THE FIRST LOCK period
come on there is no strategy involved anywhere
if u have 2 experienced players 1 in a scorp and the second in a bb-the 1 in the srorp will win, there is no strategy the guy in the bb can pull of so he can kill the scorp.
where in any real strategy game u could do that-use something small to kill something big.
have any of u played chess where u can use 1 pawn to kill a queen??
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Pojo
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Posted - 2003.12.23 16:12:00 -
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There is no way for a pawn to do that on its own, just like a single cruiser cant really beat a battleship. However 2-3 cruiser can take on a bs and win.
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2003.12.23 16:12:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Combat is similarly non-interactive. Just like mining, fighting consists of merely acquiring a target and turning on your weapons. Who wins is entirely dependent on who's got better equipment and which character's avatar has better skills.
I hate bad reviews.
LMAO strategy lol what strategy is there?
if u have 2 identical ships and u equip them with your basic mods--webs warps dirup-dampers whatever, all that counts is WHO GETS THE FIRST LOCK period
come on there is no strategy involved anywhere
if u have 2 experienced players 1 in a scorp and the second in a bb-the 1 in the srorp will win, there is no strategy the guy in the bb can pull of so he can kill the scorp.
where in any real strategy game u could do that-use something small to kill something big.
have any of u played chess where u can use 1 pawn to kill a queen??
clue..get. Reverend Necrona |

Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.23 16:19:00 -
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Quote:
have any of u played chess where u can use 1 pawn to kill a queen??
Have you played EVE where you can kill battleships with frigates? Not 1vs1 - OBVIOUSLY, you don't have to work your ass off to get a queen in chess either, though...
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.23 17:00:00 -
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Everyone knows reviewers follow the hype and give games good reviews just so they can get future exclusives. It's all BS nowadays anyway.
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kurg
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:12:00 -
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LMAO strategy lol what strategy is there?
if u have 2 identical ships and u equip them with your basic mods--webs warps dirup-dampers whatever, all that counts is WHO GETS THE FIRST LOCK period
come on there is no strategy involved anywhere
if u have 2 experienced players 1 in a scorp and the second in a bb-the 1 in the srorp will win, there is no strategy the guy in the bb can pull of so he can kill the scorp.
where in any real strategy game u could do that-use something small to kill something big.
have any of u played chess where u can use 1 pawn to kill a queen??
how you equip the ships is part of the strategy, strategy is all about making sure nothing is equal (or 'identical' as you like to call it) its about creating a situation where you are more likely to come out on top.
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Raucus
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:56:00 -
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Quote: reviews often give rave reviews to the 'quick fix' games that are easy to get into (and get out of)
but games that live off depth rarely get great reviews.
I noticed Tron got a reward for 'story' well I guess the reviewrs didnt give it the time to dvelve into EVE's storyline (many whiners doesnt too)
The RP part of eve is definately its greatest unused potential
There's a storyline...... rofl......ok.....
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Earthan
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Posted - 2003.12.23 21:02:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Combat is similarly non-interactive. Just like mining, fighting consists of merely acquiring a target and turning on your weapons. Who wins is entirely dependent on who's got better equipment and which character's avatar has better skills.
I hate bad reviews.
LMAO strategy lol what strategy is there?
if u have 2 identical ships and u equip them with your basic mods--webs warps dirup-dampers whatever, all that counts is WHO GETS THE FIRST LOCK period
come on there is no strategy involved anywhere
if u have 2 experienced players 1 in a scorp and the second in a bb-the 1 in the srorp will win, there is no strategy the guy in the bb can pull of so he can kill the scorp.
where in any real strategy game u could do that-use something small to kill something big.
have any of u played chess where u can use 1 pawn to kill a queen??
This is total bull**** my dear Kor
I chased once 2 scorpions alone with a Raven.Sure they jammed me but the Fof cruise were just to much for them:)
If you think there is no strategy involved i will be happy to meet you in 0.0 and prove you wrong.
There is much strategy involved.
Stars, stars like dust, all around me.... |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.23 21:05:00 -
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I'm with Ganja - reviews are rarely as unbiased as you think.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.12.23 21:40:00 -
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i dont read reviews...they are never precise...
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