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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.28 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 28/03/2007 15:04:33
im planning to get one of the gallente interceptors asap, and since this is gonna be the first inty i ever step in, id thought id ask some advice.
i mean, im gonna burn it anyway, in quite some amusing ways, im sure about that, but i just want to make sure, i did every possible thing to avoid that. not that its gonna help. just to soothe my mind.
im not asking setups in particular (but ill be happy for some pointers) but rather HOW TO FLY that thing. setups can be extrapolated from "how the feck do i use this thing".
and last time i checked ships didnt have operation manuals in the dashboard (hey nifty idea for future patches!)
basically i want to know if you gonna fly them inside or outside webrange, if you can set them up for both, and which gal inty is better for what and why.
im leaning towards a taranis, because being a caldari person im really really bored by missiles by now.
edit: oh and i think people like to leave their reppers at home for more PG and whatnot. if possible and not completely dumb id like to include a repper in the ship.
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jaezebelle
Gallente
ORB enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.28 15:32:00 -
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If you have missile skills for your Caldari ships as you say then the Ares is nice to use. Use that as a tackler and stay out of webrange and spam the missiles.
If you want to go all out offensive use the Taranis with blasters and a web. But also it is possible to get a fairly nice setup with an Ares fitted with rocket launchers and blasters for alot less ISK.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.28 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 28/03/2007 15:38:31
nah, i only have mediocre missile skills (compared to the small gunnery skills that is) plus i said missiles bore me to death.
how about a railranis? dps is secondary to me atm.
im looking for tackling and survivability. and advice.
this ^ is the role of an inty, isnt it?
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.28 15:56:00 -
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Railranis is nice. You should be able to hit small ships with 125s and tech1 ammo, as the Ranis gets a tracking bonus. 2 light drones help dps a lot.
Still I prefer a gankaranis as it's more ballzy. 2 magstab IIs, damage control, mwd/ab and best guns you can fit.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.28 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 28/03/2007 16:03:54
and its useless, once the opposition breaks out the Smartbomb battleships, right?
(2 magstabs sounds as if you wanna go for the "best blasters you can fit". dunno why)
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AgentEM
Gallente
The Jorg UnGround
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Posted - 2007.03.28 16:37:00 -
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I love flying a taranis.
Drop out of warp,
Approach,
Activate MWD,
Pop out drones,
Engage drones,
Turn off MWD (Once at about 1.500m)
Set Orbit to 1500m (Distance is preferencial, and dependant on setup OFC)
Turn on Web Scram And Blasters,
Slug it out till someones dead.
Not necessarily in that order but near enough =]
I use:
Hi:
3 x Light Neutron Blaster II
Mid:
1 x Named MWD
1 x Named Webber
1 x Named 20k Scram
Low:
1 x MAPC
1 x Small Armour Repairer
1 x Mag Stab (Currently named due to lazyness of not gettin t2)
Never had fights lasting a great length of time, but i could imagine cap problems after a while (If someone knows if this would be true please say)
Overall... Great fun and not tooooooooo Expensive... Ish.
Agent.
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Trisae
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Posted - 2007.03.28 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Trisae on 28/03/2007 16:38:51
Well, running 20km scram and MWD will eat your cap FAST, if you want 2x scram for people who use WCS use 1 20km and 1 7.5km, as 7.5 uses hardly any cap compared to 20km (and has double strength).
If your webbed and/or nos'ed by anything bigger than you, run.
IMO, Taranis is better than Ares (although I've not flown Ares), midslots are your friend and it has better DPS.
Edit: In response to person above, if that is order for solo ok, but for gang if you are within 20km activate scram first then approach, if not approach with MWD and scram when in range. Although if it's something big you don't have to scram straight away.
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Arte
Warspite Developments
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Posted - 2007.03.28 16:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 28/03/2007 16:12:54
and its useless, once the opposition breaks out the Smartbomb battleships, right?
(2 magstabs sounds as if you wanna go for the "best blasters you can fit". dunno why)
but hey people, as much as i appreciate your advice, you dont really tell me how to fly inties.
i only got mediocre pvp experience, most of it in frigs and dessies, and i LUV frig packs. its great fun imo.
so... is it true to say "(double) webbed inty = dead inty"?
and if yes, i think im gonna fit a 20k scrambler (or two).
how can i sustain that along with my mwd?
when i pack a 20k scrambler, do i carry a web for drones/other inties?
imagine dr evil
come on people, i need the INFO
throw me a frickin bone here
Just some thoughts from the top of my head, there are a zillion better pilots than me out there but I hope this helps.
All the 'ceptors use speed as a major attribute when considering both offence and defence, so by extension they're all going to suffer if double webbed. The trick is in your tactics, and that mostly comes from experience. If you get webbed, can you destroy the target before he gets you? If not, either get out or learn not to engage him again or get in web range again.
Knowing to stay close enough to hit with a blaster taranis fit while webbing and scrambling a target (small blasters all need to be within web range to hit), but quick enough to realise you've been webbed and far enough away to be able to get out of web range to escape.
Be able to recognise quickly when you're being nossed and get out while you've still got cap to fire your mwd.
If using a rail-ranis, then accept that you won't do much damage by comparison to a gank-ranis. An ares is a good cheap option for stand off engagements in this scenario.
Ares short range does a good job but taranis can do a better job in most circumstances due to it's bonuses. A good fitting on an Ares goes a long way though, they are seriously underestimated.
Fit to task - decide what role you want to play in your gang and fit for it, if flying solo then decide what targets you're preparted to take on and fit accordingly, steer clear of targets that will be beyond your ability to cope with. (example, you might do well with a gank-ranis against another frig, indy or a poorly fitted cruiser, but it will probably be worthless against even a modestly fitted battleship).
You cannot say "I won'tuse this fit because I might face that threat", you can only fit to suit your style best and pick your fights be prepared to run if it all goes Pete Tong.
Practise in an incursus for styles of combat for a taranis, if you get that down, then a taranis will help you do the same thing better.
Ares is a ***** kettle of fish which requires a bit of imagination to get the most out of.
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AgentEM
Gallente
The Jorg UnGround
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Posted - 2007.03.28 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: AgentEM
I love flying a taranis.
Drop out of warp,
Approach,
Activate MWD,
Pop out drones,
Engage drones,
Turn off MWD (Once at about 1.500m)
Set Orbit to 1500m (Distance is preferencial, and dependant on setup OFC)
Turn on Web Scram And Blasters,
Slug it out till someones dead.
Not necessarily in that order but near enough =]
I use:
Hi:
3 x Light Neutron Blaster II
Mid:
1 x Named MWD
1 x Named Webber
1 x Named 20k Scram
Low:
1 x MAPC
1 x Small Armour Repairer
1 x Mag Stab (Currently named due to lazyness of not gettin t2)
Never had fights lasting a great length of time, but i could imagine cap problems after a while (If someone knows if this would be true please say)
Edit:-
Just use a bit of care when picking targets and be wary of other drones boats.
Overall... Great fun and not tooooooooo Expensive... Ish.
Agent.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.28 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 28/03/2007 16:45:18
yeah now we getting there :)
thanks for your replies. keep em coming, im eager to read more
maybe the ares wont bore me after all, who knows
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Face Value
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Posted - 2007.03.28 17:43:00 -
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You may be bored of missiles now, but when you are closing on a BS at 3000 m/s ... the excitement will come back real fast! =)
Use those missiles if thats your better skill group. Plus, you may be orbiting too fast for your own guns to track.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.03.28 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 28/03/2007 17:46:28
Dude, just train for a crow :/
- Weapons don't use cap
- No practical speed cap (because you dont have to worry about tracking)
- I think it is faster than a Taranis too
Its only 7 or so more days for caldari frig 5... and you only need 1.5m-ish in missiles to use it decently.
I know it isn't what you asked for... sorry. Not trying to derail... but when you said "missiles", it just made me think...
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xenodia
Gallente
RONA Corporation
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.28 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Gedscho
Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 28/03/2007 15:38:31
nah, i only have mediocre missile skills (compared to the small gunnery skills that is) plus i said missiles bore me to death.
how about a railranis? dps is secondary to me atm.
im looking for tackling and survivability. and advice.
this ^ is the role of an inty, isnt it?
Higher DPS and shorter lifespan = blaster taranis
Lower DPS and greater survivability = railgun taranis
In any interceptor, NOS and webs are youre worst enemy. Blaster taranis has the DPS to take down bigger targets like T1 cruisers, but HAS to get inside range of nos/web to use it. Railgun taranis can safely stay outside nos and medium/small webs, but it also wont have the DPS solo to take out a well tanked cruiser. You also wont have the cap to sustain a 20k scrambler for long.
Bottom line is, gallente ceptors arent great solo ships unless youre just looking to gank haulers and t1 frigates (which taranis does nicely). In a gang, if DPS is secondary as you say, Id go for rails, and rely on your gangs damage to help you finish targets.
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Taipan Gedscho
Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.28 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 28/03/2007 17:46:28
Dude, just train for a crow :/
- Weapons don't use cap
- No practical speed cap (because you dont have to worry about tracking)
- I think it is faster than a Taranis too
Its only 7 or so more days for caldari frig 5... and you only need 1.5m-ish in missiles to use it decently.
I know it isn't what you asked for... sorry. Not trying to derail... but when you said "missiles", it just made me think...
well, i will, sooner or later get the other races frig skill to V, no question.
but i dont like the crow. and i really hate its looks.
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