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Tomasz Magnani Caldari SPECTRE Ops	Posted - 2007.03.29 14:37:00 - [1] Are you in the middle of a war that seems to have no end? Are neighboring corporations affecting your profit margin by undercutting you? Are you passionate about politics, but don't have the means to influence it yourself? If you answered "Yes" to any of these questions, then you should contact Spectre Ops. War isn't for everyone, but why be limited by a lack of ability or resources? Send a message to your enemies that you're willing to hire the best. A Caldari philosopher once wrote that war is an extension of politics by other means. Explore that avenue with confidence and anonymity, hire Spectre Ops! Please contact either our CEO Cozak, or our Director Bulletproof Cupid. In the mean time, fly safely and smartly. Tomasz Magnani Spectre Ops.
Sothr Chamar	Posted - 2007.03.29 14:50:00 - [2] Actually the correct quote is "War is a continuation of politics by other means" And the one it originates from, was Gallente
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.29 15:42:00 - [3] Originally by: Sothr Chamar Actually the correct quote is "War is a continuation of politics by other means" And the one it originates from, was Gallente Don't believe everything you read in school, young pup. The propagandist professors of Caille are not to be trusted. _
Vendrin Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.29 20:32:00 - [4] Good to see you again Tomasz. Seems like you've changed quite a bit since you worked for Eclipse. Good luck with new endeavors. _____________________________________ APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
redialer Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.03.31 01:33:00 - [5] Fly safe pew pew
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.03.31 02:24:00 - [6] It is good that war is hell or else we would love it. Being capsuleers we do not suffer from war physically only in our wallets. The crew may die but they are expendable simpletons. This sig is secured by Chuck Norris. Don't mess with the man!
fedor345 Caldari FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 07:49:00 - [7] having a war can be a good source of fun and joy, however some hate it and get killed and then mad in it, wich spoils the fun.
Milera Gallente Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.03.31 21:11:00 - [8] Ah, war. Such a wonderful thing; the feel of the blasters resonating in my heart, the shocks from the impacts sharpening my mind, and the soothing balm of the repair systems calming my mind. Why should we want war to end? War makes us stronger. It teaches us more than any university or academy ever could. War strengthens the bonds between the pilots who take part it in. We pod-pilots should revel in the glory of battle, not shy away from it like chided school-boys. People die, yes, but re-emerge unharmed in our clone bays, ready to fight another battle. Ships can be replaced, as can the crews. Why would we want our war, our never-ending struggle against each other to end? I certainly don't. ------------------------------------------------- War, the ultimate test of skill. The ultimate pleasure. The ultimate pain. My EVE blog: http://lifeneweden.blogspot.com/
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Devilish Ledoux The propagandist professors of Caille are not to be trusted. We see eye to eye here. Delictum 23216 Official forums
Darina Rea Renua Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Originally by: Devilish Ledoux The propagandist professors of Caille are not to be trusted. We see eye to eye here. Their articles are much more entertaining then Ammatar or Fraction ones however... The first being non existant and the latter being in the 'boring to death' categories. _________ The cluster is full of mysteries, all that is needed is the will to find and unravel them. Time is on our side.

Montague Snyde Gallente Spaced Cowboys	Posted - 2007.05.15 18:29:00 - [11] Thank you SPECTRE Ops. Your assistance and timely assault on the assets of our enemies has resulted in the conclusion we wanted... Our enemies now fervently want to not be enemies anymore. Isn't that nice.
Sidrat Flush Caldari Caldari Research Management	Posted - 2007.05.15 18:42:00 - [12] Originally by: Vlad Cetes It is good that war is hell or else we would love it. Being capsuleers we do not suffer from war physically only in our wallets. The crew may die but they are expendable simpletons. Enjoy your current residence while it lasts. Your corporation is simply keeping the area warm, should the forever rightful holders wish to return. Let's face it, without hired help you wouldn't have got anywhere. Say hello to Terra Daishi for me up in Deklein okay. As for the willful disregard to the lives and welbeing of the crew I....can't say I'm surprised at all. Under your and your fellow pilots command, they are nothing but slaves. Shame on me for being tainted with similar blood. Life is about memories the more the better. Looking for CCP to improve availability of their GTC's, for non card carriers!
Rudy Metallo G.H.O.S.T	Posted - 2007.05.15 19:52:00 - [13] Without evil there would be no good. War is as necessary as the peace that it ensures. Say what?
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.15 21:20:00 - [14] Ha! Got tired of being the seller eh? Good to see your still around Tomasz and good luck with your new business. ----- results may vary
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Phobos Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.15 22:04:00 - [15] Originally by: Vlad Cetes It is good that war is hell or else we would love it. Being capsuleers we do not suffer from war physically only in our wallets. The crew may die but they are expendable simpletons. I disagree. Without our crews, we, as pod pilots, are nothing. Yes, we are "elite" in the fact that we are able to use cloning facilities, however, I often provide a percentage of profits to my crew. They know that they will die eventually, however, this profit percentage is enough that my crews' families can live a very healthy, and luxurious, life. It is only humane, or do the Caldari not believe in humane practices? My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
Vaeldan Athargan Caldari Navy 'Black Knights' VFA-154	Posted - 2007.05.17 09:35:00 - [16] Any Caldari pilot who is ready to sacrifice their crew in the knowledge that he or she will survive the encounter is not a Caldari that represents the Caldari well. The same could be said for any Amarr that are irreverent or a Minmatar who enjoys shackles as an "alternative lifestyle choice". With that said, it is only out of incredulity to that viewpoint that I voice my opinion here. I am sure the pilot in question has some sort of reason for saying this. I'm sure he will discuss it over rum at the bar with anyone so inclined to listen.
GoGo Yubari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.17 13:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Feng Schui I disagree. Without our crews, we, as pod pilots, are nothing. Yes, we are "elite" in the fact that we are able to use cloning facilities, however, I often provide a percentage of profits to my crew. They know that they will die eventually, however, this profit percentage is enough that my crews' families can live a very healthy, and luxurious, life. It is only humane, or do the Caldari not believe in humane practices? Just a few days ago my Megathron-class battleship Orion was lost with all hands under the guns of an enemy fleet. To their credit, the crew had served exceedingly well in the current campaign. While perhaps regrettable, life goes on for us. There is a reason why they try and breed contempt for the dirt-walkers into us capsuleers. We're beyond fear, as we are nigh deathless on the battlefield, and this makes us fierce. If needless worry over the fates of our crew members should crawl into our minds during battle, we would slow down and die to those with no such reservations. While I don't want to seem entirely uncaring, the fact is I for one am not paid to be humane on the field.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.17 13:42:00 - [18] I think that the Minmatar, the Gallente and Caldari should drop all squabbles of any kind, ally together, and declare bloody war on the Amarrian Empire, killing, killing and killing until they denounce slavery.
John Bishop Caldari kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.18 15:31:00 - [19] i for one have my ships fitted with cloaked escape pods for my crew. i am their captain and its my duty to go down with the ship not my crews. so it costs a bit more of my booty and i pay the bastards well. some so well they have retired early. but they are the best crew a captain could ask for. and after death i return with a new ship and pick them up. i also provide health insurance and life insurance to them at no charge to them. and healt care for their families. its costly but well worth it. _______________________________________________ Originally by: Rodj Blake Large Beam Spec 5 is a really good skill to have, because it almost puts you on a par with people using T1 projectiles. [:lol:
Sidrat Flush Caldari Caldari Research Management	Posted - 2007.05.19 02:25:00 - [20] I understand the viewpoint that hesitation will mean death in combat situations so a detached relationship (if you can call it that) is probably the best thing for a pure combat pilot's career. Most of my crew have no family and those that do speak very little of them. Perhaps the pain of remembrance is too great. I think this thread has derailed quite a bit though. Life is about memories the more the better. Looking for CCP to improve availability of their GTC's, for non card carriers!

Theo Samaritan Gallente UNSC Manufactoring Corp	Posted - 2007.05.19 23:11:00 - [21] War is something that can be avoided - and I'm sure that the tens, hundreds and indeed sometimes thousands of crew under our commands would agree with me. ______________________________ "To fight a war on the table, you must be able to fight a war on the front."
Sidrat Flush Caldari Caldari Research Management	Posted - 2007.05.20 02:00:00 - [22] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris I think that the Minmatar, the Gallente and Caldari should drop all squabbles of any kind, ally together, and declare bloody war on the Amarrian Empire, killing, killing and killing until they denounce slavery. I totally agree to this viewpoint. Perhaps influencing the crew members on Amarrian ships to overthrow their tyrannical and despotic leaders would influence the Amarr Empire to change it's ways. Or be choked on the debris from missile bombardment. Life is about memories the more the better. Looking for CCP to improve availability of their GTC's, for non card carriers!
Theo Samaritan Gallente UNSC Manufactoring Corp	Posted - 2007.05.20 21:21:00 - [23] Originally by: Sidrat Flush Originally by: Andreus Ixiris I think that the Minmatar, the Gallente and Caldari should drop all squabbles of any kind, ally together, and declare bloody war on the Amarrian Empire, killing, killing and killing until they denounce slavery. I totally agree to this viewpoint. Perhaps influencing the crew members on Amarrian ships to overthrow their tyrannical and despotic leaders would influence the Amarr Empire to change it's ways. Or be choked on the debris from missile bombardment. This is not the way to approach matters. ______________________________ "To fight a war on the table, you must be able to fight a war on the front."
Altarion Ayanami Gallente Astral Eagles	Posted - 2007.05.21 08:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Milera Ah, war. Such a wonderful thing; the feel of the blasters resonating in my heart, the shocks from the impacts sharpening my mind, and the soothing balm of the repair systems calming my mind. Why should we want war to end? War makes us stronger. It teaches us more than any university or academy ever could. War strengthens the bonds between the pilots who take part it in. We pod-pilots should revel in the glory of battle, not shy away from it like chided school-boys. People die, yes, but re-emerge unharmed in our clone bays, ready to fight another battle. Ships can be replaced, as can the crews. Why would we want our war, our never-ending struggle against each other to end? I certainly don't. Crews can be replaced, so war is a fun thing to pass time with? How childish - you consider war to be fun and games due your own imortality: Indeed YOU may not die, but your kindred that served as crew will, every time. Why must thousands of families suffer a loss, so that YOU can have your 'fun'? For every Megathron that is destroyed thousands of Gallente, Intaki and Jin mei perish, and you find it funny? Warcrazed people like you, don't deserve the honour of piloting. I wonder, if your life had fared diffently and you had not been a pod pilot, but indeed, a crew member, would you still claim war to be fun, and games? Something tells me you would not. I weep for every ship lost, I weep, because every time dozens, hundreds or even thousands die because of my failure. War is not fun, war is hell ,and a needed evil to keep our world safe, secure from danger. THAT is why crew members work on your ships, doing their parts to serve the greater good, and you toss away their trust like that. Think about that next time you enter your ship, and be carefull with your life. --------- Federation Loyalist - A man of the Federation, defending home and kin.
Cozak SPECTRE Ops	Posted - 2007.12.15 16:38:00 - [25] A fine read as always.
Arelius Sarum Amarr Exodus.	Posted - 2007.12.16 07:27:00 - [26] If by "war", you mean my angry wife attempting to kill me after I arrived home drunk with the smell of another woman, then yes I am deeply troubled. To anyone with a heart, please save this Amarrian from the evil clutches of my wife.
Koshmarnaya Akula Ebon Seraph Order of the Black Cross	Posted - 2007.12.16 11:06:00 - [27] I've missed you my mentor.....
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.12.16 13:33:00 - [28] Quote: Does war trouble you? Not at all... actually, it tends to make me rich. >>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.12.16 20:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Arelius Sarum If by "war", you mean my angry wife attempting to kill me after I arrived home drunk with the smell of another woman, then yes I am deeply troubled. To anyone with a heart, please save this Amarrian from the evil clutches of my wife. Is your wife Amarrian, Sarum? If so, I would not recommend irritating her--they are beautiful, but their wrath is cold and terrifying. That, and God's children are the last people you should be cheating on. As for war, there aren't any wars going on--small dust-ups and police actions maybe, but real war is when the Empires march.
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders	Posted - 2007.12.18 05:05:00 - [30] Edited by: Garion Avarr on 18/12/2007 05:16:05 Originally by: Milera Ah, war. Such a wonderful thing; the feel of the blasters resonating in my heart, the shocks from the impacts sharpening my mind, and the soothing balm of the repair systems calming my mind. Why should we want war to end? War makes us stronger. It teaches us more than any university or academy ever could. War strengthens the bonds between the pilots who take part it in. We pod-pilots should revel in the glory of battle, not shy away from it like chided school-boys. People die, yes, but re-emerge unharmed in our clone bays, ready to fight another battle. Ships can be replaced, as can the crews. Why would we want our war, our never-ending struggle against each other to end? I certainly don't. I am sure that your crews are thrilled to know how replaceable you think them. It is opinions like this one that will inevitably cause non-capsuleers to decide that capsuleers are too dangerous to continue to exist, unless attitudes change. Mark my words: our fleets may be able to defeat theirs, yet we are still completely at their mercy. A bomb placed inside our pod while the ship is being serviced, poison put into nutrients or our air supply -- it would be quite simple for them to permanently kill us, in fact. We are dependant upon them, but they have no real need for us aside from defense against the capsuleers of other nations. How soon until they realize this, until they realize just how dangerous we are? So, yes, the wars of capsuleers do trouble me somewhat. I suppose that were there to be wars between the nations, then capsuleers would become national heroes, but I am not fond of the instability and dangers caused by wars in general.



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