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Arkoth 24
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2016.11.07 12:28:38 -
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This part of EvE had no changes for years and may not be considered as something important, but i still want to bring some attention to it.
Many items in New Eden have really ridiculous numbers of volume. We got janitors, who take 3 m3 of space, and, in the same time, Damsel takes only 0,5 m3. You may find a lot of other examples.
Sometimes it's just for no reason. Sometimes the reason exist - if we talk about ammo.
It looks like volumes of ammo were made to match volumes of cargo holds. Or i can not explain in any other way how 6 meters long missile can take 0,015 m3 of space. Just calculate it's diameter, OK?
Probably it's time to review all of this mess and give some realistic volumes to objects. It may probably take a lot of time and effort, and many people will come here and say "Oh, it's a game about spaceships, who needs your realistic crap?" I just wanna say to these guys "Go and kill yourself".
As i said, it will take a lot of time, but it will be nice to see some little improvements from time to time.
As 'bout ammo - it may take a rework of all ships bays capacity, or may be an addition of some "ammo bays" for ammo only.
Thanks for reading.
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
3474
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Posted - 2016.11.07 12:33:42 -
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I can't see the DEVs wasting valuable time reworking every item and cargo hold in the game simply because "It's not realistic enough."
If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
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Arkoth 24
Sebiestor Tribe
350
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Posted - 2016.11.07 12:38:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:I can't see the DEVs wasting valuable time reworking every item and cargo hold in the game simply because "It's not realistic enough." Yeap, we need more SKINs ASAP.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
19138
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Posted - 2016.11.07 12:54:39 -
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Maybe these are just fat janitors?
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
3590
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Posted - 2016.11.07 13:10:49 -
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Janitors may have lots of cleaning equipment that they take everywhere with them.
Game balance trumps realism when it comes to ammo.
Quote:Probably it's time to review all of this mess and give some realistic volumes to objects. It may probably take a lot of time and effort, and many people will come here and say "Oh, it's a game about spaceships, who needs your realistic crap?" I just wanna say to these guys "Go and kill yourself"
Bloody hell.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
3592
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Posted - 2016.11.07 13:16:13 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:I can't see the DEVs wasting valuable time reworking every item and cargo hold in the game simply because "It's not realistic enough." Yeap, we need more SKINs ASAP.
I could be wrong, but I'm confident the team that does skins (a feature we all wanted btw) is not the same team that would handle this idea if it was implemented (which is just you having an ocd moment).
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
3474
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Posted - 2016.11.07 13:24:44 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:I can't see the DEVs wasting valuable time reworking every item and cargo hold in the game simply because "It's not realistic enough." Yeap, we need more SKINs ASAP. SKINs generate revenue. changes like this waste time, that could be spent balancing ships and fixing broken game mechanics, during which time could cause players to leave.
If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10841
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Posted - 2016.11.07 13:56:02 -
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Quote:It looks like volumes of ammo were made to match volumes of cargo holds. Or i can not explain in any other way how 6 meters long missile can take 0,015 m3 of space. Bringo. That is exactly why there are some funky volumes for some items.
Cargo capacity is a balancing factor for ships... and the DEVs do not want to give certain ships too much capacity to carry certain items while at the same time not to make it too much of a burden to to carry other items.
This is also why some ship volumes are kinda wonky (packaged and unpackaged).
How did you Veterans start?
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Rivr Luzade
Viziam Amarr Empire
2791
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Posted - 2016.11.07 13:57:54 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:I can't see the DEVs wasting valuable time reworking every item and cargo hold in the game simply because "It's not realistic enough." Yeap, we need more SKINs ASAP. SKINs generate revenue. changes like this waste time, that could be spent balancing ships and fixing broken game mechanics, during which time could cause players to leave. ... and SKINs waste the time of the Art team that is better spent on refurbishing all the remaining ships, some with whose refurbishment CCP has been kept teasing us for years, like the Chimera or others where the refurbishment was only half-done, like the Dominix/Sin. If you pull the timer waster card, make sure to pull it at the right instance.
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
19145
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Posted - 2016.11.07 15:12:12 -
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Logically it doesnt make game less enjoyable in current state. Can even be a stuff for jokes. Certainly not gamebreaking. I dont know why OP is so concerned about those janitors? They are just big guys.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
2584
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Posted - 2016.11.07 16:54:41 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote: and many people will come here and say "Oh, it's a game about spaceships, who needs your realistic crap?" I just wanna say to these guys "Go and kill yourself".
Well at least we all know we're dealing with a reasonable person instead of a repugnant, self-important blowhard.
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Iain Cariaba
3232
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Posted - 2016.11.07 17:21:45 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:Arkoth 24 wrote: and many people will come here and say "Oh, it's a game about spaceships, who needs your realistic crap?" I just wanna say to these guys "Go and kill yourself".
Well at least we all know we're dealing with a reasonable person instead of a repugnant, self-important blowhard. Enjoy the thread while it lasts. It's been reported.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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