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LiBraga	Posted - 2007.03.30 12:39:00 - [1] As of the 19/03 Project Gemini have been at war with Racketeers on behalf of the little people without a voice (predominantly miners). For too long they had been griefing these relativly new pilots. Exploiting the law that controls Concords actions. After inflicting losses of 24 ships (hacs, bs's, bcs etc) and losing 1 bc due to Concord (we laughed about that, ohwell my pilots will learn the hard way). We recieved an official surrender. We are accepting this but be warned, grief any miner affiliated with us and we'll be back. After comments from various miners in empire, some of them in our books are fair game for you. Some people don't appriciated what we did for them. So we hope those miners enjoyed their few weeks of relativly safe mining for we are no-longer covering you. To summerise : we killed 24 (and some pods) we lost 1 (lol Concord) Overall Good fight, all be it that most of the time you'd only engage if it was 5 vs me (but those times were fun). Hope you learned the moral (pick on someone you can fight back). Other griefer corps... who's next ? (And to think people think I'm a bad panda)
MINERBUSTER	Posted - 2007.03.30 13:24:00 - [2] Edited by: MINERBUSTER on 30/03/2007 13:21:50 I love killing miner.......
Valadeya uthanaras	Posted - 2007.03.30 13:25:00 - [3] Was a nice bit of fun, after all, some of you did fight back Dont worry........we have the bad habit of undocking with... some omgwtfpwn-mobile... Hope you had as some fun.....and plz.....quit griefing those poor miner Valadeya
Demarcus Project Gemini	Posted - 2007.03.31 11:26:00 - [4] Props to Freddy Jnr's guys for showing up everyday. Only one retarded smack talker and Freddy booted him so props there as well. Some nice 1 vs 1 goofing off mixed in threw out, all in all an enjoyable few weeks. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:50:00 - [5] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 31/03/2007 20:48:40 Wasn't Project Gemini the corp that stole 12b from FLA ? Who would trust you with ISK tbh ? PS: Anti-flame suit ... I have no connection with FLA. I just find it a bit of a hypocrisy for alliance thieves to be preaching. :) -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
Freddy Jnr Racketeers	Posted - 2007.04.01 00:15:00 - [6] Yup, Congratulations. Just to make it clear, that guy wasn't booted, he left of his own accord. And "official surrender"? I convo'd your CEO and said congratulations - you win, I'm sure you're as bored camping as we are docking. And although you handed our ars to us, Racketeers are still griefing, still concording and still** getting wardec'd. (we will however avoid stealing stuff from your production corp) There are no morals in here I'm afraid. If you need protection, I'd recommend these guys.
Demarcus Project Gemini	Posted - 2007.04.01 09:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 31/03/2007 20:48:40 Wasn't Project Gemini the corp that stole 12b from FLA ? Who would trust you with ISK tbh ? PS: Anti-flame suit ... I have no connection with FLA. I just find it a bit of a hypocrisy for alliance thieves to be preaching. :) In over two years here, I stole one time. People will get over it, I know FLA has. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.01 11:04:00 - [8] I'll ask the first FLA guy i see if they got over it but if it happened to me, i wouldn't. And trust works in a different way. It's "look i won't steal from you because i have much more to lose than this" and not "look, i stole 12b isk, why would i steal you're few hundred mil ?". -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
avelution Caldari Project Gemini	Posted - 2007.04.01 16:03:00 - [9] Yeah nice one to the guys that undocked and tried, i had fun. P.S. Geme Dont use smartbombs against drones in empire, Concord dont take to kind to it when u are so close to there jump gate....! :P
Uhmari Amarr The Imperial Commonwealth	Posted - 2007.04.01 20:12:00 - [10] Edited by: Uhmari on 01/04/2007 20:09:12 Edited by: Uhmari on 01/04/2007 20:08:52 how do you spot a noob on the forums? You look at random sig's and see if they have mods on their sig. if they do, you know they are a noob like "Setana" by not having II on the mods in the sig Empires are built on conquest and war, not peace and trade.

LiBraga Project Gemini	Posted - 2007.04.01 23:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Setana Manoro PS: Anti-flame suit ... I have no connection with FLA. I just find it a bit of a hypocrisy for alliance thieves to be preaching. :) Remember the song Devil Women by Sir Cliff Richard (in his ebil days) and now he is a devout Christian singing The Lords Prayer (is he a hypocrit ?) Many criminals do their time and become "renewed" people. Holding someones past against them when they make an effort to change is descrimination. When did you lose your affiliation with FLA cause I remember seeing you..... --------------- What! Caldari have dps now... noooo Aye, T2 HAMs FTW!!!!!
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.02 14:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Uhmari Edited by: Uhmari on 01/04/2007 20:09:12 Edited by: Uhmari on 01/04/2007 20:08:52 how do you spot a noob on the forums? You look at random sig's and see if they have mods on their sig. if they do, you know they are a noob like "Setana" by not having II on the mods in the sig What do you know of my sig ? Did you spend at least 10s to look at this char, to look what it trades before spewing that dribble Mr. Alt ? You could have seen that i deal in faction mods by just looking at my character - well ... it does require a bit of IQ but still. What empire ? I said they are a corp that made an alliance theft. That is hardly the kind of thing you do on the whim of the moment. They probably planned it for some time and back-stabbed a lot of ppl. You want to trust them with you're isk Mr. Alt, then pls do. LiBraga, this char was not in FLA or a northern alliance for that matter, but i do post on the eve-o forum - might have seen me there. Nor do I have any kind of char in a northern alliance. -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.02 14:08:00 - [13] Originally by: LiBraga Originally by: Setana Manoro PS: Anti-flame suit ... I have no connection with FLA. I just find it a bit of a hypocrisy for alliance thieves to be preaching. :) Remember the song Devil Women by Sir Cliff Richard (in his ebil days) and now he is a devout Christian singing The Lords Prayer (is he a hypocrit ?) Many criminals do their time and become "renewed" people. Holding someones past against them when they make an effort to change is descrimination. When did you lose your affiliation with FLA cause I remember seeing you..... Ok, do you have the isk and stuff stolen still ? Do you profit from it still ? You call it descrimination because I say in this thread that you want to use as material for advertisement that you are NOT trustworthy. You have decided amongst yourselves to steal from you're friends and back-stabb ppl. I don't care if they are FLA, Y, IRON, FIX, XELAS, LV or RA. If you had stolen from BoB - with they're security i doubt it you would have even tried, I would still say here and now that you ppl are not to be trusted. You did it before, you will do it again, who trusts his ISK with you is a F O O L. If you do indeed want redemption, give back everything you stole, but you won't do that, because you want redemption for no cost. -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
LiBraga Project Gemini	Posted - 2007.04.02 16:45:00 - [14] Sooo sad. You think you know the in and outs of what happened. Truth be it, your view is biased as it only encapsulates FLAs side of it. If you don't know 100% of it you shouldn't pass judgement, let alone preach your judgement to others. It's true we took alot from FLA, however it be also true that we gave more to FLA before that based on promises that weren't fullfilled. This is an example of when a 1/2 truth is worse than a lie. Alot of people were worse off when they left FLA. We just made sure we had some of our investment back. I'm sure we could have done it a better way but we didn't. Anyways thats the past, we should look to the future. --------------- What! Caldari have dps now... noooo Aye, T2 HAMs FTW!!!!!
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 12:24:00 - [15] Originally by: LiBraga Sooo sad. You think you know the in and outs of what happened. Truth be it, your view is biased as it only encapsulates FLAs side of it. If you don't know 100% of it you shouldn't pass judgement, let alone preach your judgement to others. It's true we took alot from FLA, however it be also true that we gave more to FLA before that based on promises that weren't fullfilled. This is an example of when a 1/2 truth is worse than a lie. Alot of people were worse off when they left FLA. We just made sure we had some of our investment back. I'm sure we could have done it a better way but we didn't. Anyways thats the past, we should look to the future. My view encapsulates just the fact that you are alliance thieves and you declared it. I have no ideea what was the state of the relation Project Gemini and FLA, and i have searched for a thread about that, an explanation. What i have read, and found from asking, is that you guys have stolen from you're friends and that now you want redemption. You back-stabbed a lot of corps for ISK and capitals. What guarantee is there that you won't do it again ? None ... :) -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
Formosus Funus Eternal Rising EternalRising	Posted - 2007.04.03 12:37:00 - [16] Setana, You really have no idea what you're talking about. So please just quit spamming this thread with your nonsens. Besides that, FLA stole more or less 30B from their (ex) members by promising a lot and when the ISK was no word was spoken anymore about it. Now Im not here to whine about FLA (it's sad though), Im just saying that it's not as easy as it looks like. And Im very sure PG invested a very f*cking lot in FLA, no idea how much, but believe me, a lot is for sure. Anyway, back on topic. Nice game PG, I know you guys can pull out the big strip min... guns when needed .
ClogMan Caldari Caldari Anvil Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.03 19:50:00 - [17] This thread is so funny lol
mineuk	Posted - 2007.04.10 12:47:00 - [18] "P.S. Geme Dont use smartbombs against drones in empire, Concord dont take to kind to it when u are so close to there jump gate....! :P" Yea i kinda did that so you guys didn't get the kill. i kinda laughed about that alot actually. Anyway guys not sure about the kills you confirmed on us like them all being BC, BS and so forth as i know we were near enough always running around in Frigs but good job cos you did hand our a.. to us with those nighthawks and stuff :)
Tarphon Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.10 20:32:00 - [19] Well how about this... this IS my main, and I do know what I am talking about. Project Gemini stole alot more than they ever put forth when they were the elected leadership. Now they still brag about it, so they are not sorry, nor have they changed. Elf I had alot of respect for you and Devil back when we flew together you seemed like a good sort. Now you let this in your alliance, wow is all i can say, just wow. I thought better of you, its a shame really, but its your rep. P.S. I hope nobody post a list of miners under "PG's protection" I would hate them to suffer
Paltar Eternal Rising EternalRising	Posted - 2007.04.11 10:13:00 - [20] blinks and rubs eyes I don't see any ELF/Devilslayer posts in here Tarphon? But regardless no more 316 Posts in here please. We're all aware of PG's failings and their crimes and its something they have to deal/live with. anyone with any concerns about their inclusion in my alliance can convo me in game to chat if they require an explanation. Regards Paltar www.eternalrising.net

Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.14 01:13:00 - [21] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 14/04/2007 01:11:12 Originally by: Paltar blinks and rubs eyes I don't see any ELF/Devilslayer posts in here Tarphon? But regardless no more 316 Posts in here please. We're all aware of PG's failings and their crimes and its something they have to deal/live with. anyone with any concerns about their inclusion in my alliance can convo me in game to chat if they require an explanation. Regards Paltar Well, if they are such a rotten apple that even you admit it, then why take them in you're alliance ? Unless you or you're alliance had something to gain from it ... o.0 PS: I'll try and convo you. LE: Hadn't LiBraga moved into Mordus Angels ? -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.16 14:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Formosus Funus "typed words" Hi Formosus! Wherever you go... There you are...
Case Mass Griefers On Demand And More	Posted - 2007.04.20 03:10:00 - [23] Originally by: LiBraga Sooo sad. You think you know the in and outs of what happened. Truth be it, your view is biased as it only encapsulates FLAs side of it. If you don't know 100% of it you shouldn't pass judgement, let alone preach your judgement to others. It's true we took alot from FLA, however it be also true that we gave more to FLA before that based on promises that weren't fullfilled. This is an example of when a 1/2 truth is worse than a lie. Alot of people were worse off when they left FLA. We just made sure we had some of our investment back. I'm sure we could have done it a better way but we didn't. Anyways thats the past, we should look to the future. The Irony kills me here.... This is truly an example when 1/2 the truth is worse than a lie. PG was the sole existance of FLA? I can easily recall more people and corporations who did more work, yet left without trying to pull some holier than thou cult swipe. (to keep on topic) I'm honestly amazed that the CEO of .PG. has actually been able to continue his leadership as it most definately failed in FLA. Knowing what went on? These Promises? They were not made due to the lack of the at-the-time co-alliance leader to make basic easy decicions -which could have made these so called promises come true and on a side note, if FLA leadership had actually listen to me, would have prevented the stealing of all thier assets- however, congradulations anyway on a not so stellar win against miners? Too bad I recall just the other day running into your forces, who was staying away from a real fight with even numbers. I suppose your corp and it's actions do speak louder than your propoganda posts of doing well. Cheers.
Paltar Eternal Rising EternalRising	Posted - 2007.04.20 07:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Setana Manoro Edited by: Setana Manoro on 14/04/2007 01:11:12well, if they are such a rotten apple that even you admit it, then why take them in you're alliance ? Unless you or you're alliance had something to gain from it ... o.0 PS: I'll try and convo you. LE: Hadn't LiBraga moved into Mordus Angels ? They Made a stupid mistake... their problem, doesn't stop me being their friends nor assume by proxy they'd be able to pull the same stunt with my alliance. We did gain from it, we got some damn good pilots. You got that much of a problem with it come get some. Otherwise this thread is probably ready to die.... there is a flame thread on COAD you can go necro if you want to keep bashing PG. www.eternalrising.net
Demarcus Project Gemini EternalRising	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:33:00 - [25] Edited by: Demarcus on 21/04/2007 11:30:31 Quote: I'm honestly amazed that the CEO of .PG. has actually been able to continue his leadership as it most definately failed in FLA. I'm just that damn good. If anything we have grown and thrived considerably since then. People think that theft was easy since all I had to do was transfer the isk to myself. They fail to see the four POS and 2.5 mil m3 of assets that we had to take down and get out of 0.0 in three days (drunken cannonball run style freighter piloting 4tw). It made us much tighter as a unit. Quote: congradulations anyway on a not so stellar win against miners? Miners? No, they were/are greifers shooting at miners. Quote: Too bad I recall just the other day running into your forces, who was staying away from a real fight with even numbers. I suppose your corp and it's actions do speak louder than your propoganda posts of doing well. I guess you missed a couple days ago when we were fighting in Auenenen down 10 to 1 successfully saving one of our carriers. Oh thats right it is easier to just make random sh*t up instead of actually having a clue what your talking about. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Demarcus Project Gemini EternalRising	Posted - 2007.04.21 11:54:00 - [26] Quote: Well, if they are such a rotten apple that even you admit it, then why take them in you're alliance ? Unless you or you're alliance had something to gain from it ... o.0 They did have something to gain, us. People can think and say whatever they like about me, but I didn't get to that position in FLA because I don't know what I am doing. But seriously though keep flaming away on me, apparently people are to dumb to realize that infamy is just as good as fame. So a big thank you goes out to all the haters for making my task of recruiting so much easier by doing our advertising for us. Forum banners just don't generate the numbers pure unbridled hate does. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
arthell Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.24 04:18:00 - [27] PG is happy to have some ships. I'm happy I don't need to fly beside them anymore. Not the view of my alliance, corp, sister's friend, nephews dog, etc.
Elfaen Ethenwe Eternal Rising EternalRising	Posted - 2007.05.08 04:57:00 - [28] WoW how great am i. i get smacked in threads i dont even know exist. i feel special now ----------------------------------------------- logoffski is bad mmmk?
Formosus Funus Eternal Rising EternalRising	Posted - 2007.05.08 06:38:00 - [29] Originally by: TroNaaR Originally by: Formosus Funus "typed words" Hi Formosus! Whoohoo, I feel special too, but more on a the good way... I guess. But o/ there. Amazed I see some (ex)-FLA here and there still remembering me.
Grim Faust Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.09 21:44:00 - [30] Demarcus, the only reason you came to power was because we were in the middle of management change and it was to be temporary. Nevermind about you only taking back what you gave either. You stole a lot of other peoples hard work when FLA was already down on the ground. Forget about your redemption as well and trying to come clean, you openly admitted you enjoyed being the bad guy for a change. The more you type the more you contradict yourself. FLA is a large alliance of a lot of hard working people. You stole from them. You didn't get back at the leadership, you were the leadership because all the ones that failed gave up or left. (granted we did have some great leaders that just got burnt out) You took the funds when they were needed and ran because you saw an easy way out and trouble ahead for FLA. It doesn't matter that this is a game where we play for fun and none of it really counts in the real word. Your actions were despicable and in when in fact you did do it in a game, it didn't dampen the thieving nature, it made you look worse for actually doing that to other people playing a game to have fun. When you stole from FLA you stole from every member and not just the leaders that supposedly screwed you over. This is why now, every FLA member that ever comes across your path will do their very best to make your life miserable. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...



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