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Myz Toyou Black Lance NBSI Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 16:58:00 - [61] Thats why it¦s called: Trust no one in EVE, poor show Sol ! Thought you were a fine guy but by the looks of it you only a thief CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots
Phoenicia Eidolon Exploration and Exploitation	Posted - 2007.03.31 16:59:00 - [62] Originally by: Traderjohn em why say me. i am backing sol. and tbh TNT was dead from the word go. MV was the only corp that tried to do anything regarding the alliance, and we didnt get anything. me and my corp are backing sol on this. TJ "My corp and me", surely. And um, it's ex-TNT vs. ex-TNT here. I don't think anyone else cares tbh
Waxau Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:15:00 - [63] Originally by: Phoenicia Originally by: Traderjohn em why say me. i am backing sol. and tbh TNT was dead from the word go. MV was the only corp that tried to do anything regarding the alliance, and we didnt get anything. me and my corp are backing sol on this. TJ "My corp and me", surely. And um, it's ex-TNT vs. ex-TNT here. I don't think anyone else cares tbh Actually, it would be 'My corp and I'
SolApathy Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:59:00 - [64] Originally by: Myz Toyou Thats why it¦s called: Trust no one in EVE, poor show Sol ! Thought you were a fine guy but by the looks of it you only a thief myz i still love you, but seriously u dont know how it happened as i see it, its basically ex TNT, balta loyalists and my personal fanboi's vs Noum and barth's chimparium (hehe like like being monkeys btw thats not an insult) Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Maybe things have gone too far?
BlackMoon Thrawn the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:28:00 - [65] I'd like to clear up a few things. 1. Nobody is saying Solapathy killed the alliance. Everyone who was in it knew that TNT as it was known was dying/dead. If Balta did not want the alliance carried on by those the previous administration had appointed I personally think that was well within his rights. The thing is those people in charge never got so much as a convo from balta regarding it. We are continuing this discussion based on the word of someone who stole isk. 2. The isk stolen was a paltry sum. This is agreed by nearly everyone. It's the hows and whys it was taken that are the problem. Some believe Solapathy some don't, as the saying goes proof or stfu! Any proof will do it doesn't even have to be completely convincing. I like sol, still do, but after what has happened with his acct and his corp recently I think he was feeling generally **** on and took the isk. I also think he feels what he did was justified. I don't. I wish good luck to everyone I flew with in TNT. It's sad that it ended the way it did but these things happen
munchy Prison Break Inc. FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:29:00 - [66] Originally by: Raven Hyperbollic Nope your not listening.. what your saying is correct until the point when balta left the game. So please tell me your not in TNT so How do you know more than me then... Balta formed TNT made TNT well off. BAlta Leaves. No assets as far as the then new leader of TNT was concerned were left to it/him. In the end whos right is based on your own personal Morals. Anyway its obvious that people who approve of hostile ISK taking (a valid part of the game mechanics we know) what isn't all theres to take will side with SOL. and the guys who feel shafted by all this will side with us. Suming up: So balta left with almost everything. and TNT was left with just the name.. believe me, im listening to everything you say very carefully mate. the only thing i reffered to "post balta" in tnt were the bpos left to star scream, and the fact that the 1.6b was taken mate, i refered to something else earlier and was wrong about said thing, which i have no problem admitting. as for me not being in tnt so aparently knowing nothing about it... yes sure mate. i had an alt in the holding corp untill i left, was a director in altz and talked to balta about the creation of tnt in the first place, but im sure you're right, i would never have been more informed than the average membership. i dont even want to be picking sides in this, what i am and have been trying to state all along if YOU would take a second to listen, was that balta created tnt, funded tnt for months, ran tnt, got the diplo contacts for tnt, recruited your and all other corps (before he left) to tnt, and did everything but name it (duffmanx takes the credit for that). He has every right to get a small fraction of his isk back, the fact that tnt failed to raise more than 1.6b without kraz, balta or sol in leadership is not his fault. ---
DaHeaVYFo Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:09:00 - [67] Originally by: Myz Toyou Thats why it¦s called: Trust no one in EVE, poor show Sol ! Thought you were a fine guy but by the looks of it you only a thief Wrong! He is a fine guy. He didn't keep a cent of the isk. And me and many others would trust everything to him. I did, still am, he hasn't mistrusted his best friends. Things got ****** up at TnT, Sol acted to his loyal believes. And I think loyalty has gotten a new definition throughout this incident. too bad.
Bethy Chan Caldari the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:14:00 - [68] To all who are still trying to figure this out: Sol stole the money, without contacting a single person. Contact has not been made in anyway to balta, The money was nothing at all but it was all that was left when leadership yet again was changing hands, with a new motivation to bring TNT back to life with what was already dieing. This alliance didnt die becuase the money was stolen, it died in part becuase Sol has slandered and draged Baltas name through the dirt. From what i know of him(balta), some kind of conversation would have taken place... not just Solapathy's word which if u can tell by his recent theft without a word... is shotty at best. To this day no conversation has been intiated on either side(with balta). Tnt was in bad shape not becuase of theft, but becuase the administration shifted hands so many times in such a short amount of time. Any alliance would be in bad shape. Instead of taking every tool an alliance could need, and want... and improving upon it, everyone jumped ship... Solapathy had a hand in this in spreding propeganda and two facing almost everyone through the alliance, from what i got to know of him... I didnt see this comming at all. Anyway its sickining to see a decent alliance fall apart in such ways... and further more its sick that everyone would throw away such hard work and accomplishments for nothing more then.. a lack of understanding that alliances take work and everyones input. TNT didnt need to die nore was it even in bad shape asset wise, space wise, income wise, good friends or player count... all it lacked was motivation, dedication and a understanding of how long this game takes to do things. I wish all the friends i made the best and hope to take screenshots of good times with you in the future.
Bethy Chan Caldari the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:22:00 - [69] Originally by: DaHeaVYFo Originally by: Myz Toyou Thats why it¦s called: Trust no one in EVE, poor show Sol ! Thought you were a fine guy but by the looks of it you only a thief Wrong! He is a fine guy. He didn't keep a cent of the isk. And me and many others would trust everything to him. I did, still am, he hasn't mistrusted his best friends. Things got ****** up at TnT, Sol acted to his loyal believes. And I think loyalty has gotten a new definition throughout this incident. too bad. Just make sure u dont upset him with your stuff around him. Also make sure your opinions and views dont clash with his. and make damn sure u dont get in the way for what he beleives to be "loyal" becuase the exact same thing will happen to you. The only thing i have learned about this is how two faced someone can be sitting at a computer teriminal. feeling he has been done wrong, and doing as much damage he could do on the way out. And better yet how true the begining of what Myz Toyou statement is.
SolApathy Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:27:00 - [70] as said time and time again no balta isnt playing the game correct, no he does not login everyday to see what decisions the leadership made but he did login he spoke to me on ts and he said very specifically that he wanted the alliance back so it wouldnt wither and die off slowly. Balta and I had been in contact through out his time out the game via msn and teamspeak so errrr all this rubbish about me lying and this rubbish thats exactly what it is rubbish. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Maybe things have gone too far?
SolApathy Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:29:00 - [71] Originally by: Bethy Chan Originally by: DaHeaVYFo Originally by: Myz Toyou Thats why it¦s called: Trust no one in EVE, poor show Sol ! Thought you were a fine guy but by the looks of it you only a thief Wrong! He is a fine guy. He didn't keep a cent of the isk. And me and many others would trust everything to him. I did, still am, he hasn't mistrusted his best friends. Things got ****** up at TnT, Sol acted to his loyal believes. And I think loyalty has gotten a new definition throughout this incident. too bad. Just make sure u dont upset him with your stuff around him. Also make sure your opinions and views dont clash with his. and make damn sure u dont get in the way for what he beleives to be "loyal" becuase the exact same thing will happen to you. The only thing i have learned about this is how two faced someone can be sitting at a computer teriminal. feeling he has been done wrong, and doing as much damage he could do on the way out. And better yet how true the begining of what Myz Toyou statement is. i LoL'd at that statement still what makes me laugh is u been in TOGCO 3 days, ive been out the alliance since thursday... POST WITH YOUR MAIN... Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Maybe things have gone too far?
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.04.01 06:10:00 - [72] I'm not sure what to say here..... I suppose I'll thank TNT under the previous leadership for not destroying the GEPT POS that was in the 87 Region, despite knowing its location. We've left now from that region, but it was nice that they didn't take the opportunity to destroy it as they could have and allowed us to eventually get it taken down. I wish all of you the best in the future. Galactic Express Recruitment Post Thoughts expressed are mine and
Mazza Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.04.01 11:16:00 - [73] Quote: em why say me. i am backing sol. and tbh TNT was dead from the word go. MV was the only corp that tried to do anything regarding the alliance, and we didnt get anything. me and my corp are backing sol on this. I'd like to make a few corrections to Traderjohns post. Firstly as Phoe correctly pointed out the proper English Quote: "My corp and me", surely. Thanks Phoe Secondly Traderjohn is not the CEO of MV and therefore does not dicate corp policy. This matter is has nothing to do with MV at all as someone pointed out previously in the thread MV and VAF did not pay into the alliance wallet as we were just trial members. What MV and VAF did for TNT is ilrelevent in this post and MV take NO stance on who is right and who is wrong in this matter. This is a dispute that started before MV joined TNT and unfortunely came to a head whilst MV was part of TNT. So kindly plz refrain from dragging our corp into this dispute thank you. Mazza CEO Macabre Votum Yarrrrrrr
Lijah IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2007.04.01 12:45:00 - [74] Shame it ended like this. Either way, and whatever the real truth is ... thanks for all the good times Sol. Keep in touch CEO
SolApathy Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.04.01 14:32:00 - [75] This thread was never about being a slagging match, the TNT leadership left that message on the description of the alliance, i had to clear my name and show how events truely happened with some cool high definition cctv footage of the vault. whether u are a fan of me or my work, or noum and barthezz i dont care i still love you all, TNT had an awesome bunch of guys within it. my name is somewhat cleared now thats all that matters to me. Sole: lone(a): being the only one; single and isolated from others; "the lone doctor in the entire county"; "a lonesome pine"; "an only child"; "the sole heir"; "the sole example"; "a solitary instance of cowardice"; "a solitary speck in the sky" Apathy: an absence of emotion meaning do i care? one could argue it was fate since my holding corp character was named No Apathy :D Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Maybe things have gone too far?
SolApathy Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.04.01 14:32:00 - [76] This thread was never about being a slagging match, the TNT leadership left that message on the description of the alliance, i had to clear my name and show how events truely happened with some cool high definition cctv footage of the vault. whether u are a fan of me or my work, or noum and barthezz i dont care i still love you all, TNT had an awesome bunch of guys within it. my name is somewhat cleared now thats all that matters to me. Sole: lone(a): being the only one; single and isolated from others; "the lone doctor in the entire county"; "a lonesome pine"; "an only child"; "the sole heir"; "the sole example"; "a solitary instance of cowardice"; "a solitary speck in the sky" Apathy: an absence of emotion meaning do i care? one could argue it was fate since my holding corp character was named No Apathy :D Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Maybe things have gone too far?
Zhidag the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.04.01 15:20:00 - [77] you havent cleared your name at all, only let more people in EVE know what you did,
SolApathy Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.04.01 15:29:00 - [78] the mood of the thread somewhat indicates otherwise to me Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Maybe things have gone too far?
F'lan Ker Caldari EntroPraetorian Legion EntroPraetorian Aegis	Posted - 2007.04.02 05:17:00 - [79] Salute! Even TNT and it's members have given us hard times by destroying assets and such I still want to wish them luck in future endeavours, both current and ex-TNT pilots. ----------------------------------------------------- ~Let Chaos Entwine On Defenceless Soil~
Yakoff Star Scream Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:32:00 - [80] I just have one question regarding all this suppose thievery going on. Who took my exotic dancer?
Butternut Squash Gallente Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.04.02 23:35:00 - [81] I am jealous of my wife ... she already has a titan :D
Bluestealth Minmatar Star Scream Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.03 00:13:00 - [82] Originally by: Yakoff I just have one question regarding all this suppose thievery going on. Who took my exotic dancer? Me :(
SovietGuard Caldari Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2007.04.03 21:13:00 - [83] First off, I would like to say it was an honor and a pleasure flying with all the pilots in TnT. Alive, dying, or dead, I will always keep those memories in a safe spot. Thanks. Second, right or wrong, Sol did what he believed to be right and true. I've known him as a character and a real person for awhile now, and have grown to not only trust him with billions of iks worth of assets, but trust him with RL issues and beyond. So to say he is not a decent person just isn't true. I unfortunately never got the chance to really know balta. He certainly sounds like and acted like a stand up guy. And if Sol said he told him to do this, he did out of respect for an honored friend and respected player in the Eve community. I never had anything against anybody in TnT. Thought most of the guys were pretty cool. Although the MV guys were a little crazy , they did contribute a large amount to TnT. Interpret this how you like, but a long time ago, I told Sol that I would follow him wherever he went and I aim to do just that. He has helped me out not only in game, but IRL as well. I don't follow him because I feel I owe it to him, I follow him out of respect and a TRUSTED friendship. Yeah, he stole the isk. Was it going to kill TnT? NO. Unfortunately, TnT was slowly withering away on its own. So, I say let it go and get on with whatever you're going to do. Things happen everyday that suck. You buck up and take it like a man. So, I'm done ranting. So long TnT, I will miss being a part of you. But it is time for me to move along and see whatelse awaits me and my m8's. BTW, anybody out there that can change my sig for me? Just gotta remove 3 letters. GARDS Killer
xxArchangelxx	Posted - 2007.04.03 21:26:00 - [84] I like ponies
ignisgunner Minmatar Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.04.03 23:59:00 - [85] Edited by: ignisgunner on 03/04/2007 23:56:39 yo tnt was fun while it lasted i dont know what happend with the money i tend to hope someonw would just not take it and run....but who knows good luck tnt Originally by: SolApathy This thread was never about being a slagging match, the TNT leadership left that message on the description of the alliance, i had to clear my name and show how events truely happened with some cool high definition cctv footage of the vault. whether u are a fan of me or my work, or noum and barthezz i dont care i still love you all, TNT had an awesome bunch of guys within it. my name is somewhat cleared now thats all that matters to me. Sole: lone(a): being the only one; single and isolated from others; "the lone doctor in the entire county"; "a lonesome pine"; "an only child"; "the sole heir"; "the sole example"; "a solitary instance of cowardice"; "a solitary speck in the sky" Apathy: an absence of emotion meaning do i care? one could argue it was fate since my holding corp character was named No Apathy :D Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Lups BROWBEAT	Posted - 2007.04.07 10:16:00 - [86] well whatever happens sol u never did me no harm, i guess what people have put in this thread is expected, be it good or bad. just nod, smile and above all keep the faith m8. fly safe Lups Beware The Badgers Of Doom!
Valkazm Amarr ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.07 14:32:00 - [87] when can you ever justify betraying your alliance ? or the little guy that looked forward to doing his part without worrying about politics ..
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.04.07 19:44:00 - [88] RIP TNT Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...

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