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Kirk Hammet
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Posted - 2007.03.31 00:23:00 -
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I can't seem to make it work, my bpos are in the station in the same system, i have scientific networking level 1, i am trying to copy using my mobile lab slots, i click the bpo, i click copy, i choose my mobile lab and nothing happens? please help.
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Nishijima Manbeater
FUALL
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Posted - 2007.03.31 00:42:00 -
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We buy the skill, buy the POS w/ mobile lab, get it setup and online, and it doesn't even work? WTH???!!! Would have been nice to know BEFORE I spent about 400 mills.
Thanks coders.
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Paisan
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Posted - 2007.03.31 01:21:00 -
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The BPO has to be in the corp hangar. You also need reports or whatever the BPO needs to copy in the same hangar in the POS.
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Fubar
Amarr
Eagle Eye Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.31 02:07:00 -
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As Paisan says, the bpo's MUST be in the corp hanger.
The client throws an exception if you try to install a bpo into a mobile lab from your personal hanger. That is if "Show Exception Windows" is turned on the in generic settings of the client.
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Marcus Tedric
Gallente
Tedric Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.31 10:44:00 -
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For Corp POS research:
- Corp hanger in same system as POS
- Scientific Networking to 1
- BPO in hanger - take access required (can be locked)
- if copying and items needed - items must be in lab in same hanger division (BPC delivered at POS)
- once a BPO has at least ME1/PE1 then remote loading is possible with Sci Net to 2 or more
Alliance research similar - Corp hanger required in system - owning Corp must place items and retrieve BPCs
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Nishijima Manbeater
FUALL
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Posted - 2007.03.31 20:04:00 -
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Yeah, I have everything neded in same named hangar. The mobile lab is 17 jumps away and I can do up to 20. The bpo already has PE on it but no ME. Neither will get passed the bar window that says getting estimate, it freezes up. There is no way I'm gonna bring a t2 bpo out to 0.0. I haven't seen anything that says you have to have ME & PE at 1 to start using the mobile lab this way. I have petitioned it, but do not expect much to happen there soon as it is a coding issue and will need to be addressed in a patch. I just find it very frustrating that they put all this in and it doesn't work at all.
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Ruffio Sepico
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.03.31 20:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Nishijima Manbeater
Yeah, I have everything neded in same named hangar. The mobile lab is 17 jumps away and I can do up to 20. The bpo already has PE on it but no ME. Neither will get passed the bar window that says getting estimate, it freezes up. There is no way I'm gonna bring a t2 bpo out to 0.0. I haven't seen anything that says you have to have ME & PE at 1 to start using the mobile lab this way. I have petitioned it, but do not expect much to happen there soon as it is a coding issue and will need to be addressed in a patch. I just find it very frustrating that they put all this in and it doesn't work at all.
Is it in same region?
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Skill at running research operations remotely. Each level increases the distance at which research projects can be started. Level 1 allows for range within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for full regional range."
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.03.31 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nishijima Manbeater
I have petitioned it, but do not expect much to happen there soon as it is a coding issue and will need to be addressed in a patch. I just find it very frustrating that they put all this in and it doesn't work at all.
The likelihood this is true is very very small. Been doing t1 and t2 research with mobile labs for over a year now and nada problem. There are several things you need to do, as is listed in this thread already, to satisfy the system the remote research system. 1: Pos and lab must be online. 2: The bpo must be in a corporate hangar. 3: The bpo must be in the same system as the pos. 4: You need at least 1 level of Sci networking. 5: You do need to be in the same region. Originally by: Nishijima Manbeater
There is no way I'm gonna bring a t2 bpo out to 0.0.
I'm going to assume that you have not satisfied Rule #3.
The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it.
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Karann
Minmatar
Locus Solus
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Posted - 2007.03.31 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Karann on 31/03/2007 21:25:00
Originally by: Marcus Tedric
- once a BPO has at least ME1/PE1 then remote loading is possible with Sci Net to 2 or more
if you 'prime' the bpo it can be done remotely before its researched at all, you have to cancel when you get to the final stage of installing the bpo, it will lose the '1' in the corner.
also it can be done from corporation -> accounts -> offices -> whichever division its in, works for brand new bpo
edit: why prime it? if all are primed then you dont have to go back to the office, pita but it does help
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Nishijima Manbeater
FUALL
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Posted - 2007.04.01 02:20:00 -
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You are correct, I have not met #3. When I read the skill awhile back either I read it wrong or CCP has changed it to state region-wide at level 5. I probably read it wrong tho and just paid attention to the jumps.
Thank you for pointing this part out to me. Now I feel really stupid, but this is all new to me.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.04.01 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nishijima Manbeater
Thank you for pointing this part out to me. Now I feel really stupid, but this is all new to me.
Don't sweat. Most of the experts here are 6 month newbs, the others are 1 year newbs. Myself, I'm a 5 year newb and I'm still mucking things up. I'd suggest talking Ricdic regarding his research alliance but you are doing t2 research apparently. For that you are pretty much stuck with either a mobile lab of your very own (corp) or public facilities. IMHO if it is just the two bpo's that you list in your bio I'd just muddle through the public facilities. The -25% times sounds nice, in theory, but that discount comes at the cost of pos management time and isk for fuel. >smacks his forehead< I just realized that you were also probably thinking on doing remote manufacture too. If that was your planning you'd probably best be served by grabbing some space in low sec and slipping in with your bpo's. If high risk transport is an issue for you... contact me ingame regarding the courier mission, collateral, and payment. 
The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it.
Arknox > shar with bad hair day >>> solution = suicide and spawn fresh clone :D |
Marcus Tedric
Gallente
Tedric Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.01 11:51:00 -
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It's worth re-stating...
The two most common causes of the error:
1) The BPO must be in the SAME system as the POS - Scintific Networking and Supply Management both work the same way - they only affect the distance over which you can manipulate the jobs.
2) The BPO must be in a Corporation hanger to use a Corporation/Alliance POS - not in a Personal Hanger
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente
Anqara Expeditions
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.04.01 19:19:00 -
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Are there such things as personal pos'es, and if so, does that negate the need for having the bpo in a corp hanger?
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.04.01 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord
Are there such things as personal pos'es, and if so, does that negate the need for having the bpo in a corp hanger?
no such think i'm afraid
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Bambi
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Posted - 2007.04.02 13:33:00 -
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Its the skills description thats not that clear. i assumed the same as you that the bpo coul dbe in any coprp hangar within your skill range. But it has to be in the same system as the pos. You can still do remote research but not quite how the skill reads...
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.04.02 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bambi
You can still do remote research but not quite how the skill reads...
Quote:
Skill at running research operations remotely. Each level increases the distance at which research projects can be started. Level 1 allows for range within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for full regional range.
Actually it is quite clear when you remember that all skills are player-centric. What confuses the issue is using bpos from a station in a mobile POS. One would suppose that such safe bpo research was not intended, originally, but added later on as one of those "Oh my's" that happens. Otherwise mobile labs would've found little use, if any, in Eve. In fact, if I remember correctly, that is exactly what happened.
The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.19 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Tedric
For Corp POS research:
-BPO in hanger - take access required (can be locked)
How do you lock a BPO? I just was right clicking on one and do not see that option. I am trying to figure out if there is any way for my corp members to manufacture and research from the corporation's BPOs without leaving them all open to possible theft.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.09.19 10:42:00 -
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You need a corp vote to lock the BPO down, and then the CEO needs to enact the vote (assuming it is a success).
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.19 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rashmika Clavain
You need a corp vote to lock the BPO down, and then the CEO needs to enact the vote (assuming it is a success).
I am the only shareholder and the CEO. I have voted yes, but the vote still shows as open and there is nothing in the sanctionable items area.
Any ideas?
Rhaegor Stormborn
Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Rikeka
Amarr
Eye of God
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.09.19 20:37:00 -
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24 hours must pass, I think.
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Donde Esta
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Posted - 2007.09.20 01:08:00 -
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I've been through this same problem for the past couple days as well. Needed research permissions, needed scientific networking, needed to move my BPO over to the corp hanger, oops, needed access to the corp hanger. Now that I have all that done (each on a separate night, ugh) I find out that i need access to the (a?) corporate wallet. My ceo/directors aren't on, so I'm just waiting... Is this really a requirement, or am i setting up something incorrectly?
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Kassandra Kulzaan
Deadspace Armada
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Posted - 2007.09.25 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Donde Esta
I've been through this same problem for the past couple days as well. Needed research permissions, needed scientific networking, needed to move my BPO over to the corp hanger, oops, needed access to the corp hanger. Now that I have all that done (each on a separate night, ugh) I find out that i need access to the (a?) corporate wallet. My ceo/directors aren't on, so I'm just waiting... Is this really a requirement, or am i setting up something incorrectly?
I want to know the same thing, I'd like to let more members of my corp use the mobile labs to research, but I don't want to give them wallet access...
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Creyn
Draconic Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.25 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Creyn on 25/09/2007 04:14:57
You have got 7 corp wallets, unless you are using them all, just set one up as factory/lab and give those who need to run corporate manufacture or research access to that wallet
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Kassandra Kulzaan
Deadspace Armada
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Posted - 2007.09.25 11:32:00 -
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I guess I'll have to, I just thought there was an easier way to let my corp members use a lab that was only accessable to corp members that doesn't cost anything. Or if it had fees, the idea of taking money from the crop wallet that goes... into the corp wallet is just plain stupid.
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