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Vinhod Arkar
United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2007.04.03 17:57:00 -
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As a minmatar char who has run a lot of anti amarr/caldari missions I once again find myself getting shot by NPC's in amattar/amarr space. I'd quite like to get this up a bit, but even with diplomacy 5 I'm going to be sitting at -2(ish) I'm in a similar situation with all friendly to amarr factions and wonder if there's anyway of increasing my standing with the evil slavers, beyond diplomacy obviously.
Thanks for any suggestions
Vin
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Necoria
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Posted - 2007.04.03 18:36:00 -
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You have to do important missions to gain faction standing, so you need to grind 16 normal missions for 1 important. You get derived modification for other factions then. I can imagine 3 ways to get your amarr/caldari standing up again... perhaps 4
1. kill gallente/minmatar navy ships - though this makes your gall/minm standing drop faster than the gains on amarr/caldari side are 2. Accept and FAIL gallente/minmatar storylines - but same issue as point 1
3. Run missions for friendly factions, your unmodified standing with khanid is -4, so with diplomacy it should be above -2, so their agents will talk to you. This is the best bet. 4. Run missions for The Interbus, they are friendly to all empires
A useful table to see the relationships and modifiers http://www.newedenlibrary.net/tmp/standings.html
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agrajag119
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Posted - 2007.04.03 20:40:00 -
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don't remember the patch, but interbus is now not universally friendly. i believe they went to gal/min friendly.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.03 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Marquis Dean on 03/04/2007 21:05:51
Originally by: agrajag119 don't remember the patch, but interbus is now not universally friendly. i believe they went to gal/min friendly.
Interbus is Caldari/Amarr friendly, but your standings will rise painfully slowly.
Sisters Of Eve are Gallente/Matari chummy.
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Originally by: CCP Sharkbait will explain when i have the time i promise
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Alexoin
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Posted - 2007.04.03 23:27:00 -
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Unfortunately I think you're going to have problems . The factions you can do missions for to raise Amarr/Caldari faction are Amarr, Caldari, Ammatar, Khanid and Mordus Legion. Unless you can use an agent in one of those factions (have a modified standing 0f at least -2.0) I'm not sure you can raise them.
Originally by: Necoria You have to do important missions to gain faction standing, so you need to grind 16 normal missions for 1 important. You get derived modification for other factions then. I can imagine 3 ways to get your amarr/caldari standing up again... perhaps 4
1. kill gallente/minmatar navy ships - though this makes your gall/minm standing drop faster than the gains on amarr/caldari side are. When I've killed Caldari Navy ships in missions I have had no benefits to my Gallente or Minmatar faction standing, so not sure this will work. This is one reason why I will turn down any faction warfare mission out of hand, the corp standing benefit in no way balances out the faction standing loss. Whether this is different if you're fighting a non mission spawn I don't know
2. Accept and FAIL gallente/minmatar storylines - but same issue as point 1. May be possible
3. Run missions for friendly factions, your unmodified standing with khanid is -4, so with diplomacy it should be above -2, so their agents will talk to you. This is the best bet. Definately the best bet if it's possible.
4. Run missions for The Interbus, they are friendly to all empires. Unfortunately I am not sure that Interbus actually have any storyline agents, so I am not sure what actually happens if you run 16 missions for them, as the agents will send you to the nearest storyline agent of the same factions (and the 16 missions are counted seperately for each faction and each level)
A useful table to see the relationships and modifiers http://www.newedenlibrary.net/tmp/standings.html
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Vinhod Arkar
United Systems Navy
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Posted - 2007.04.04 22:43:00 -
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thanks for the replies - I have 1 level in diplomacy already so I think I sc*****into being able to run khanid missions (just) with either level 4 or 5 in diplomacy.
first poster - well researched, was looking through my original post thinking "I didn't post my standing with khanid" then realised you looked me up in game. Dedication - I like that!!
Vin
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Musachi
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Posted - 2007.04.05 00:04:00 -
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so obviously from these numbers, if you have a negative standing, to say the angel cartel at about -7, there really is no way to ever get that up to be able to get any missions from them, right?
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.04.05 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Musachi so obviously from these numbers, if you have a negative standing, to say the angel cartel at about -7, there really is no way to ever get that up to be able to get any missions from them, right?
Running, storyline, missions for serpentis, syndicate and thukker will raise angel standing. If those 3 are to low too, then it is indeed over.
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