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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.03 20:31:00 -
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No bounties, no real loot, but loads of very large compounds. Sounds geat and all as the value of compounds is your bounty, typically higher than ISK bounties are for comparable NPC's (or so im told at least). Problem is, you can't bring haulers into the sites to collect your bounties. SO you spend x amount of probes and y hours probing a site, get your ships together, and get "Error Error Error Empty Hive" messages and little to show for your efforts, unless you want to spend 2 hours cleaning up with battleships.
Surely I'm not the only one annoyed to no end by this. Until something is changed, I'll be skipping all drone plexes I find, and advising others to do the same.
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How's that saying go? something about a pot calling a kettle black.... but the kettle getting the last laugh because it was banging the pot's sister? Yeah, that sounds right.
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picchiatello
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Posted - 2007.04.03 21:05:00 -
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2 things : have u thoguht about ask soem friends to haul it for u ?
then u found escalation drone plex???
if escalation loot should be good ( friend time ago found officer in 3 stage of it )
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Elain Reverse
Caldari
Shokei
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Posted - 2007.04.03 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: picchiatello
2 things : have u thoguht about ask soem friends to haul it for u ?
then u found escalation drone plex???
if escalation loot should be good ( friend time ago found officer in 3 stage of it )
You need some sort of keys for entering another stages of complex, thats mean you will need 1 keay each time you want go in.
Tho i didnt do drone plex yes, only pirate faction ones.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.03 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: picchiatello
2 things : have u thoguht about ask soem friends to haul it for u ?
then u found escalation drone plex???
if escalation loot should be good ( friend time ago found officer in 3 stage of it )
Read my post again, slowly, and you'll realize why you can't get friends to haul it. Your only option is to spend a lot of time trying to haul it in with battleships.
Haven't found any yet that don't spam error messages instead of spawning more npcs or escelating.
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How's that saying go? something about a pot calling a kettle black.... but the kettle getting the last laugh because it was banging the pot's sister? Yeah, that sounds right.
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foolers
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Posted - 2007.04.04 04:33:00 -
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Whats to stop you from using a cruiser with tractor beams just to stack the cans on the nearest gate for the hauler.
If you want to go wild and crazy, you can just put a crappy cloak on the hauler so he can idle nearby while you blow crap up.
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Elain Reverse
Caldari
Shokei
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Posted - 2007.04.04 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: foolers
Whats to stop you from using a cruiser with tractor beams just to stack the cans on the nearest gate for the hauler.
If you want to go wild and crazy, you can just put a crappy cloak on the hauler so he can idle nearby while you blow crap up.
Yes you can haul cans to gate, but how it will help when
1) complexes do not despawn as missions
2) Haulers cant go in
3) for each entry you need some key, whitch is destroyes upon use
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Helison
Gallente
Times of Ancar
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.04.04 14:12:00 -
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Hmmm, I think you are speaking of different plexes:
a) exploration plexes like "independence": Complete the plex, make BM¦s of your wrecks, leave the system (or dock) -> the plex will despawn -> you can loot with your indy or whatever you want.
b) static complexes like "outgrowth rogue drone hive": Try to enter the plex with a T2 hauler. I know it was like that in former times with the previously named plex.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.04 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: foolers
Whats to stop you from using a cruiser with tractor beams just to stack the cans on the nearest gate for the hauler.
If you want to go wild and crazy, you can just put a crappy cloak on the hauler so he can idle nearby while you blow crap up.
Depending on the site, that wold still take a long time. My domi's cargo hold was full with maybe 6 bs wrecks and a few cruisers. My point was never that it was impossible, only that's it's impractical given the time it takes to get any reward from it. (not to mention this character can't use tractor beams hehe)
It's a pretty irritating reward system in my opinion.
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How's that saying go? something about a pot calling a kettle black.... but the kettle getting the last laugh because it was banging the pot's sister? Yeah, that sounds right.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.04 16:49:00 -
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We have gone through 2 drone exploration complexes, it was maybe Hierarchy and another one (the second one was not escalating).
We came in to loot with 2 exequrors with cargo expanders, and it goes fine to loot and salvage.
We had tons of compounds & alloys and the minerals once reprocessed were much rare ones and even morphite. It was worth the time spent there. Also, we completed both the complexes (didn't go to next part of hierarchy, it was in a crap always camped system) with quite small ships, we had no BS, only BCs, AS, cruisers and we ripped them out with a touch of coordination.
We lost an AS in hierarchy (this part was lacking the needed touch of coordination  ), entered first before the BCs ad got scrambled... And rogues drones tend to attack non-rogue drones.
Total losses were one AS and one hammerhead II... Still the minerals values was high and it was profitable.
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Christopher Dalran
Gallente
Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.06 21:56:00 -
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Listen to Eleana, Exequrors make GREAT haulers. Also on exploration plex's you dont need keys or anything like that. If you manage to get an escalation path to spawn the only thing that happens is you are given a bookmark to the site. The site does not actually spawn or anything untill you arrive at the location using the bookmark given in the first part.
You can leave and re enter as much as you want, you and whoever you chose to share the sites location with (your given the location under the expeditions tab) are the only ones that can ever enter it anyway and since it cannot be repeated at a later date there is no need for a card to ensure the parts are done in sequence anyway.
It sounds to me like you are attempting a static Complex in a drone region. THose are alwayse in the same spot and can be repeated as much as you want so keycards are required to make sure people do the whole thing and just dotn keep skipping to the end for the loot.
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Howitz
Minmatar
Prox XII
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.08 17:21:00 -
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I must say from personal experience I know exactly what doctorstupid2 has experienced and can do nothing but fully agree. First of all, let me clarify for all the empire static-farming munchkins that the complexes that he is referring
to are generally in 0.0 space and are found only through exploration.
I have personally spent hours in these exploration complexes including the drone complexes. Personally, I don't see any good reason why a hauler can't enter an exporation site to begin with. A hauler can't actually do anything in a exploration site except pick up cans, maybe fit a salvager in its one/two high slots to salvage wrecks, and occassionally get blown up by a wayward respawn in a drone plex. So instead of making those that actually do exploration and spend some time working to actively find a plex (though the rewards are still pitiful compared to static complex rewards) spend hours in cruisers warping in and out to load up a hauler with drone minerals, how about CCP give eploration plexers a little love?
Now to make a new post about exploration sites/static complexes and risk vs. reward.....
"Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid."
-Heinrich Heine
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