Or restrict them to force recons only.

Or restrict them to force recons only.

Why does CCP make it so any ship with more fitting capacity than a shuttle can fit a cyno

because this way even two week old players can have a HUGE impact on the battle field

And that is why it must change.

No, that is precisely why it should not change. It is one of the few ways a two week old player can impact a fleet, and this is a good thing.

Why does CCP make it so any ship with more fitting capacity than a shuttle can fit a cyno, but expanded combat probe launcher(required for combat probes) is VERY hard to fit on a fully fitted ship due to MASSIVE CPU requirement?

No fully fitted BS should be able to hot drop If the same ship cant launch combat probes due to high CPU requirements.

Fights that don't involve Cynos are super super rare and it needs to stop.

Hotdropping is too mainstream now. I have had many 1v1 fights ruined because of it. Enough is enough. Make the hot droppers life equally hard as those that probe.

The balance between hotdropping and combat probing is SUPER off in favor of hot dropping. Fix it. Make it equal at least.

Combat probes are in no way equivalent to a cyno. Combat probes are, generally speaking, only fitted to specialized ships for one. They're also extremely low risk when in use and very high reward, so giving them restricting fittings is a way of introducing a weakness to an otherwise fairly low risk and high utility module.

Cynos, in contrast, cost fuel, keep the ship in space for 10 minutes which almost guarantees its destruction, and require you to risk every ship that comes through that cyno.

Lastly, and probably most importantly, putting restrictive fittings on cynos isn't going to prevent their use, it's just going to restrict further what ships people use as bait, since those who want to run cynos are going to be included to do so regardless.

If you are currently having issues identifying ships equipped with a cyno may I recommend fitting a ship or cargo scanner to determine what your target is fitted with before engaging? Those modules have a lower fitting cost than a cyno and therefore should be fairly easy for you to bring along, right?

Another "CYNOS RUIN MY HONORABLE DUELS" post?

Look, buddy, The only difference between the fleet that hotdropped you and the fleet that gatecamped you is that in one of these cases you had to take the bait.

Stop taking the bait.

Man then no PvP would ever happen.

Then don't whine when you fall for the bait.

because this way even two week old players can have a HUGE impact on the battle field

its not the cyno which kills.. its the fleet behind.
Cyno is just a way to bypass the cheapest intel tool named local chat. There has to be a way, because otherwise, well, nice kills wouldnt happen.

How do you tell what is bait and what isn't?

There are two ways to look at. Because of the cyno most titans will only be used when your sure you have the bigger super fleet. If the capablility of instant transfert of those ships would be limited the use of them would properly go up.

its not the cyno which kills.. its the fleet behind.
Cyno is just a way to bypass the cheapest intel tool named local chat. There has to be a way, because otherwise, well, nice kills wouldnt happen.

It's all bait. Really, who cares if they drop titans on you and blap you off the field. You realize they probably spent more in fuel and ammo than your ship is worth?

Not much of a consolation, but your comment kind of helped my point. If its all bait then where's the upfront and honest PvP?

How do you tell what is bait and what isn't?

Ship scanner if you're lazy, common sense and a little less risk aversion if you aren't.

Sometimes the bait isn't obvious and you get whelped. It's part of Eve.

Also no, PvP would still happen, but only by people who are willing to lose fights.

I have literally lead a fleet (and by lead I mean took responsibility for) that decided it wanted to shoot *OBVIOUS PL BAIT TEMPEST* when we knew there was a Titan chilling in a POS in the same system. We shot the Tempest, Titan warped on grid and blapped half the fleet, Tempest died, everyone ran for it, fun was had by all.

I got to watch my corp mates do something hilarious, the bored PL pilots got to shoot something, and my friends got to shoot something and then laugh about how the PL pilot failed to kill the most expensive stuff on the field and just shot T1 BCs.

Again, want to reiterate, obvious bait and we didn't have a Cyno (because Eve Uni) and we still made PvP happen.

That's not what I am talking about. Ship scanners show modules?