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Horus Dark
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Posted - 2007.04.04 10:28:00 -
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hi:
Medium pulse II
Medium pulse II
Medium pulse II
Knave nos
Med:
Webby
AB
Cap recharge II
Low:
Small armor rep II
Cap power relay
Energised nano membrane.
heatsink II
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i thought this was a decent setup.
But i got owned in like 1 min by galentre BC.
(and if i try to take down a jaguar in a amarr bs ill get laughed at heh)
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Riho
Gallente
Magnificent Beavers
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.04.04 10:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Horus Dark
hi:
Medium pulse II
Medium pulse II
Medium pulse II
Knave nos
Med:
Webby
AB
Cap recharge II
Low:
Small armor rep II
Cap power relay
Energised nano membrane.
heatsink II
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i thought this was a decent setup.
But i got owned in like 1 min by galentre BC.
(and if i try to take down a jaguar in a amarr bs ill get laughed at heh)
drop the relay for another HS... u got a cap regen bonus enyway
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Sig killed by MODs.... reworking it
Great being Gallente... aint it ?
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2007.04.04 10:38:00 -
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Courtesy of Shinnen:
1x Medium Pulse Laser II
2x Dual Light Pulse Laser II
1x Rocket Launcher II
1x 1MN Afterburner II
1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
1x Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I (2x 150 charges)
2x Small Armor Repairer II
1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1x Damage Control II
74%/87%/76%/58% resists, heals 36 HP/s. 
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.04 10:43:00 -
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I'm gonna assume this is a PvE setup.
The setup looks ok all around... but if you get owned by a BC you're doing something wrong, as you should be able to do tank their damage...
Try improving specifically your kinetic and thermic resistances as you won't need anything else against Gallente NPCs.
So replace the EANM with an Energized Thermic Membrane, even maybe an Armor Thermic Hardener (i.e. active).
Then replace either the Heat Sink or the CPR with an Energized Magnetic Membrane. Ideally you'll want to be able to run your tank 24/7 or for as long as possible against NPCs, so if taking out the CPR makes you unable to run your tank 24/7, remove the heat sink, you'll probably still do enough damage to kill a BC.
If you can fit it, I would think a Vengeance would benefit more from a Small Cap Battery than a Cap Recharger, too, so try that. The nos isn't terribly useful and eats a lot of grid, so you could take that out if it helps to fit the cap battery. Then, if you can, fit a rocket launcher instead for some extra damage.
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Viktor VonCarstein
Amarr
Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.04 10:51:00 -
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You haven't stated whether its for PVE or PVP.
Vengeance PvP
3 Dual Light Beam II
1 Small Diminishing Nos
1 Named MWD
1 Web
1 Warp Disruptor II
1 SAR II
1 Internal Force Field Array
1 Energized Thermic Membrane II
1 Beta Reactor Control Cap Power Relay.
Rigs Either Cap or Rep Amount depending on skills/preference.
Primarily used as a heavy tackler.
If for PVE I would not touch the Vengeance and use a Retribution it is a huge difference.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.04 10:52:00 -
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My PvP setup:
3 x Medium Anode Pulse Particle Stream (no grid for T2, but hey) w/MultiFreq
1 x Small Nos (E5)
1 x 1mn Ab (cold-gas)
1 x 20km Scram (J5)
1 x Web (X5)
1 x SAR II
2 x EANM II
1 x Energised Thermic Plating II
Has a wicked little tank does this ship, and you can sustain it all with the nos, it just doesn't have a terribly good damage output.
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Horus Dark
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Posted - 2007.04.04 13:04:00 -
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Quote:
but if you get owned by a BC you're doing something wrong, as you should be able to do tank their damage...
What am i doing wrong then? you see my setup.
BC in question was a Tier 2 gallentre BC and it ate me within a minute.
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2007.04.04 13:33:00 -
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If any AF came near my Harbinger I'd swat it like a fly.
AFs are tough, but not that tough. A well-fit cruiser can kill them.
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.04 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Horus Dark
Quote:
but if you get owned by a BC you're doing something wrong, as you should be able to do tank their damage...
What am i doing wrong then? you see my setup.
BC in question was a Tier 2 gallentre BC and it ate me within a minute.
You still haven't clarified whether you're talking about an NPC or an actual player. But since I don't believe there are NPC Myrmidons, it means you attacked a real human player flying a Myrmidon? In a Vengeance? If that is the case, it only makes sense that you got owned. It's the only possible outcome unless the Myrmidon pilot is an idiot.
And if you're talking about NPCs -- don't get webbed, use your speed, orbit around your target at your optimal range, they will not be hitting you (or very poorly) and they'll die.
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Arx Impera
Amarr
Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.04.04 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Horus Dark
Quote:
but if you get owned by a BC you're doing something wrong, as you should be able to do tank their damage...
What am i doing wrong then? you see my setup.
BC in question was a Tier 2 gallentre BC and it ate me within a minute.
...a Myrmidon?!
Did it have Nos? Medium Drones? Web?
If it had, and you survived a minute, congratulations, your setup rules. Or he sucks.
The thing is, Vengeance is more of a tackler then anything else; I too wanted it to be a nice solo pvp ship, but truth is, it isnt... Use a cruiser for that if you wish.
Personally, as the tackler, my setup is;
3 Dual Pulse II
1 Knave Nos (Diminishing and E5 dont fit)
Arcjet Thrusters
X5 Web (or was it Langour?)
F5 Disruptor (or less cpu usage)
SAR II
200RT Plate
N-type Thermic Plate
N-type EANM
This is an extremely tight fit (I dont remember If I had best named in all thou, not at home now), and its focused on tackling, and survival. Cap can hold for a lot of time (AF 4, Cap skills at 4), and tank is monstrous for this type of ship. DPS is low, not above 80 at tops with Scorch S, but it does what its supposed to do.
You'll laugh at all kinds of missiles, and if you fly it well, turrets will do nothing dangerous. You can even solo in it, but know your place, dont expect to survive an encounter with a Myrmidon, amongst all ships 
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