Simple questions to the Mercs of New Eden...

Under today's eve mechanics, what is the minimum number of wars you feel a merc Corp or alliance needs to declare in order to find adequate targets? What is the maxim you feel you need (yes unlimited is a fine answer if you feel you need that many)?

Do you feel that of locator agents also stated whether a target was online or off line when used, would this change the above numbwrs?

During the days of the active watch list, before it became a friends list, what was the minimum and maximum number needed?

A question in general discussion had me wondering about war decs and if there was a limit, what that limit should be?

Simple questions to the Mercs of New Eden...

Under today's eve mechanics, what is the minimum number of wars you feel a merc Corp or alliance needs to declare in order to find adequate targets? What is the maxim you feel you need (yes unlimited is a fine answer if you feel you need that many)?

Do you feel that of locator agents also stated whether a target was online or off line when used, would this change the above numbwrs?

During the days of the active watch list, before it became a friends list, what was the minimum and maximum number needed?

A question in general discussion had me wondering about war decs and if there was a limit, what that limit should be?

Simple questions to the Mercs of New Eden...

Under today's eve mechanics, what is the minimum number of wars you feel a merc Corp or alliance needs to declare in order to find adequate targets? What is the maxim you feel you need (yes unlimited is a fine answer if you feel you need that many)?

Do you feel that of locator agents also stated whether a target was online or off line when used, would this change the above numbwrs?

During the days of the active watch list, before it became a friends list, what was the minimum and maximum number needed?

A question in general discussion had me wondering about war decs and if there was a limit, what that limit should be?

To be clear - the first 3 or 4 decs should be relatively cheap and anything over dec number 10 should require a lot of hurt feelings, isk and commitment.

Wardec mechanics could use some love, but I don't think that scaling wardec fees is the answer.

It's not just not the answer, it's outright idiotic.

It's the very definition of trying to solve a problem by addressing a symptom while entirely ignoring the myriad of problems causing it, which would all still be present and still be crippling war related gameplay.

The only utility the idea has is as an example of the least intelligent way to approach problem solving that is humanly possible.

There are too many posts on this god damned topic.

There are too many posts on this god damned topic.

Re: escalating wardec fees, I favor them in principle. Deccing smaller corps should cost less than deccing larger ones (you are paying for less after all), and adding your first wardec should cost less than adding your twentieth (bureaucracy ain't cheap).

In practice however, every method of implementing these scaling fees that I've seen or thought of is subject to abuse that would make legitimate wardeccing prohibitively expensive very quickly. People would just pay to keep alt corp wardecs going, fill their ranks with dummy alts to inflate corp size, etc.

Wardec mechanics could use some love, but I don't think that scaling wardec fees is the answer.

for over half a year now

HOOOOLY ****. HALF A YEAR

I haven't really had an issue since 2003. It's always just been part of the game to me. Adapt or die. It seems like some of the people talking here are mostly dying.

I'm not seeing DecShield as a problem. The cost escalation would only be applied to war decs / assists that you initiate. If you're the 300th corp/alliance to drop a dec on NorthernCoalition - that matters not. Piling on is fine - it would just be that you can't pile on everyone at the same time.

As far as alliance bombing. I would keep decs active on corps fleeing alliance for the war duration, but not count it against the aggressor. Here's the line of logic behind it:

AceMercServices dec's UltimateNullConglomerate (12,000 members and 69 corps). AMS has 2 weeks to slaughter them. AMS paid off CONCORD to shoot the members of that alliance. That stands for the dec period if the corp stays in the alliance or if they leave. Think of the war declaration as being against 70 entities - UNC as a whole and the 69 corps. As the war progresses, leaving UNC isn't a get out of jail free card - you can separate from the alliance, but you can't separate from CONCORD sanction war activities. Instead of seeing UNC as 1 entity - it would see it as 70 entities. On the other hand, joining UNC during an active war dec would add you to both the UNC roster and as entity 71 for the duration of the war. The net effect would be that leaving an alliance under war dec doesn't change anything as far as the war dec goes.

It would be a code change as to how war decs are seen by the game, not just a roll back to the old broken ways. There would be more, such as a corp joining an alliance while under war dec. That would have to be looked at carefully - it would be funny if (as a war dec infected corp) you could join/drop alliance memberships and spread the joy, but would have to be coded in some way as to not allow 'spread the joy' abuse.

Many of us know this is a complex issue that requires multiple changes on several mechanics fronts. Escallating dec fees would only be part of the package. Only an idiot would assume 1 simple change would fix such a complex problem. So, for those that wear those types of shoes, if you read closely my original post on this says I am in favor of escalating dec fees. What it does not say is that changing ONLY this facet will cure the mechanics quagmire that HS warfare is currently in.

At the end of the day I'm more interested that HS warfare is fun, challenging and continuously pulls more folks into the PVP aspect of the game and less interested in the actual way we get from the current mind numbing player farming mass dec garbage to that ideal. I just want HS warfare to be fun again.

War mechanic is fine from where I sit. It cost lots to dec many groups as it should do. It cost more to dec bigger groups as it should do. People don't have to be at war so there is npc corps. Mercs who hunt or camp area do so out of choice and the strategy is up to them. If some one does not like the way they do it dec them. If people don't know how to defend themselves learn or die. This is eve. Mercs are mercs they are happy to shoot stuff and get paid to do it.

What actually needs fixing is how you can gank a freighter for a few 100mil. That's what's wrong not war mechanics. We pay billions for our wars.

I repectfully disagree on a few points. I don't think it is fine the way it is. There seems to be very little incentive for any group with PvE activities going on in their corp to ever declare a war. Mixed groups have no reason to fight each other over a limited resource other than POCO's wich honestly are a bit of a joke. I would like to see a reason other than blow **** up that would be engaging for a much larger section of the player base that could even be a PvE reason. Just some sort of reason 2 groups who wouldn't normally declare a war could.

Also assist system and surrender system is garbage. Surrender system needs more options and the assist system could also use a shake up in both expense (lets face it less people would pile on if it cost the same as declaring a war) and options.

The surrender system could have more depth but in reality this does happen. It's just more in player hands to discuss terms.

I'm loving citadels and these new industrial complex as we are getting contracts daily. There does seem to be more war activity.

What about the current assist system? I honestly think its the most in need of looking at of all the war mechanics

Its ok. It's not broken but not perfect. We sometimes get paid to assist on wars or assist clients and that makes them feel warm and fuzzy. It good the assist is not straight away and there is a period of time before war starts. It is wrong that you cannot assist if there is a pending dec but this was highlighted by Rhivre on the imperium news. Hopefully ccp picked up on this.

Tbh I don't know the answer here.

We were thinking of having a policy of assisting for free alpha clone corps. The game does not allow for detailed assist strategy and optionality but player convo does.

Simple questions to the Mercs of New Eden...

A question in general discussion had me wondering about war decs and if there was a limit, what that limit should be?