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radkid10 Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 39	Posted - 2016.12.03 11:09:30 - [1] - Quote editing
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 3512	Posted - 2016.12.03 14:16:55 - [2] - Quote Why? If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Do Little Virgin Plc Evictus. 584	Posted - 2016.12.03 14:20:52 - [3] - Quote For use in game, a PLEX can be split into a billion ISK +/- depending on the market. For use out of game, it can be split into 3500 AURUM for use in the New Eden store. It is exactly the right size for a pilot license extension or multiple character training. If you want to trade a smaller amount of real world cash for ISK in game, you can buy Aurum for as little as 4.99, use it to purchase skill extractors or skins in the store and sell them on the in-game market for ISK. The system is sufficiently granular and flexible - there are better places for CCP to invest their limited development resources.
Alexis Red Red Corporation 8	Posted - 2016.12.03 16:09:46 - [4] - Quote radkid10 wrote: there should be a 7 day version and a 14 day version the 7 day version should cost 5 bucks and the 14-day version 10 bucks there should be an option to split a Plex into smaller sizes and also an option to combine each piece back together if somebody wanted to to make the bigger versions It's a forgone conclusion that CCP will have to implement short term plex options. At this time there is no reason for a casual to pay for the game if they only play every once in a while. They can get their fix on a small scale level, connect with friends and save ISK since they don't need to grind for a 1 billion plus hit each month to plex. Personally, the only way I would jump to Omega after my sub runs out this month is if I could buy a one day .99 cent Omega pass (50million ISK)for the times I actually sit down to play the game for a few hours. Why would a part timer pay $15 to play for a few hours? The only true logic to this free to play alpha state is to provide food for subs, which will of course be a very short lived meal.
blargderp United Earth Space Council 3	Posted - 2016.12.03 16:38:10 - [5] - Quote this doesn't seem all too unreasonable so long as a normal plex itself is the only plex that can be bought for real money and then in order to get "half" or "quarter" plex you need to split it up and they cannot be recombined.
Bjorn Tyrson EVE University Ivy League 28	Posted - 2016.12.04 20:00:07 - [6] - Quote Alexis Red wrote: radkid10 wrote: there should be a 7 day version and a 14 day version the 7 day version should cost 5 bucks and the 14-day version 10 bucks there should be an option to split a Plex into smaller sizes and also an option to combine each piece back together if somebody wanted to to make the bigger versions It's a forgone conclusion that CCP will have to implement short term plex options. At this time there is no reason for a casual to pay for the game if they only play every once in a while. They can get their fix on a small scale level, connect with friends and save ISK since they don't need to grind for a 1 billion plus hit each month to plex. Personally, the only way I would jump to Omega after my sub runs out this month is if I could buy a one day .99 cent Omega pass (50million ISK)for the times I actually sit down to play the game for a few hours. Why would a part timer pay $15 to play for a few hours? The only true logic to this free to play alpha state is to provide food for subs, which will of course be a very short lived meal. Current system: if someone wants to bring their titan or super alt to a fight. They need to spend the 15 dollars (or more if it's a plex) in order to activate the account. And believe me tge big alliances have far more titan abd super late than they use. Precisely because it costs so much to activate them even for 1 fight. Make it 99 cents and you will see a massive increase in capital hot drops
blargderp United Earth Space Council 3	Posted - 2016.12.04 22:29:48 - [7] - Quote Bjorn Tyrson wrote: Current system: if someone wants to bring their titan or super alt to a fight. They need to spend the 15 dollars (or more if it's a plex) in order to activate the account. And believe me tge big alliances have far more titan abd super late than they use. Precisely because it costs so much to activate them even for 1 fight. Make it 99 cents and you will see a massive increase in capital hot drops This seems pretty inconsequential. For any alliance worth their salt that has a supercap pilot, buying a plex with isk to get them in the fight is a drop in the ocean.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 3732	Posted - 2016.12.04 22:50:33 - [8] - Quote You do know that this would significantly increase the overhead costs CCP would face right? As well as result in a bunch of 'tiny plex' that most players weren't interested in at all. It's a terrible idea for a bunch of administrative and trade reasons.
Esnaelc Sin'led The Unchained Club No Handlebars. 91	Posted - 2016.12.05 09:37:02 - [9] - Quote +1 For this idea. I had it myself. With the Alpha clone changes. A 7 Day PLEX could make the new players subscribe for a short period and test what is an Omega access. And may be go full subscription mode after. It could provide a smaller amount of AURUM and therefore give more 'control' to players willing to buy items from the NEW EDEN market without having 1000 AURUM left for no use.
radkid10 Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 46	Posted - 2016.12.06 11:01:01 - [10] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: You do know that this would significantly increase the overhead costs CCP would face right? As well as result in a bunch of 'tiny plex' that most players weren't interested in at all. It's a terrible idea for a bunch of administrative and trade reasons. it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay which means more money will be spent means more money for CCP
Kenrailae mind games. Suddenly Spaceships. 668	Posted - 2016.12.06 11:05:42 - [11] - Quote radkid10 wrote: it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay which means more money will be spent means more money for CCP Yeah I don't think so. This isn't world of Tanks, where you go premium for a week and get to keep all the extra credits you made. Going omega for a week on eve doesn't let you keep using that SP afterward. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
radkid10 Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 46	Posted - 2016.12.06 11:09:55 - [12] - Quote Kenrailae wrote: radkid10 wrote: it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay which means more money will be spent means more money for CCP Yeah I don't think so. This isn't world of Tanks, where you go premium for a week and get to keep all the extra credits you made. Going omega for a week on eve doesn't let you keep using that SP afterward. it makes it easier for people to pay as they can buy one week at a time instead of saving up for a whole entire month some people make enough to pay for a week at a time
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 834	Posted - 2016.12.06 17:41:31 - [13] - Quote is $12/mo really not affordable to you?
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 505	Posted - 2016.12.06 18:49:24 - [14] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: is $12/mo really not affordable to you? $15, dear. Specifically $14.95 (plus any bank fees for foreign transactions). It's only $12/month if you buy the 6-month sub, for $71.70 in one chunk. For those wanting the make EvE even more microtransactioned, if they can't afford - or are just unwilling - to shell out $15, seventy-plus dollars is far out of the question. --Gadget Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 835	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:04:19 - [15] - Quote Gadget Helmsdottir wrote: $15, dear. Specifically $14.95 (plus any bank fees for foreign transactions). It's only $12/month if you buy the 6-month sub, for $71.70 in one chunk. For those wanting the make EvE even more microtransactioned, if they can't afford - or are just unwilling - to shell out $15, seventy-plus dollars is far out of the question. --Gadget Ok, lets assume you go monthly. $15/mo. Let's assume you play 10 hours/week (which is low for most of us) that's less than $0.40 per hour. If you can't afford that, you should probably be studying to get a better job instead of gaming.
PopeUrban El Expedicion Flames of Exile 249	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:27:37 - [16] - Quote Bjorn Tyrson wrote: Alexis Red wrote: radkid10 wrote: there should be a 7 day version and a 14 day version the 7 day version should cost 5 bucks and the 14-day version 10 bucks there should be an option to split a Plex into smaller sizes and also an option to combine each piece back together if somebody wanted to to make the bigger versions It's a forgone conclusion that CCP will have to implement short term plex options. At this time there is no reason for a casual to pay for the game if they only play every once in a while. They can get their fix on a small scale level, connect with friends and save ISK since they don't need to grind for a 1 billion plus hit each month to plex. Personally, the only way I would jump to Omega after my sub runs out this month is if I could buy a one day .99 cent Omega pass (50million ISK)for the times I actually sit down to play the game for a few hours. Why would a part timer pay $15 to play for a few hours? The only true logic to this free to play alpha state is to provide food for subs, which will of course be a very short lived meal. Current system: if someone wants to bring their titan or super alt to a fight. They need to spend the 15 dollars (or more if it's a plex) in order to activate the account. And believe me tge big alliances have far more titan abd super late than they use. Precisely because it costs so much to activate them even for 1 fight. Make it 99 cents and you will see a massive increase in capital hot drops I do not see a problem with this. More cap ships in fights means more cap ships exploding. More capital hotdrops means more capitals exploding. More capitals IN SPACE FOR ANY REASON means more capitals exploding. What do you have against CCP's beautiful new capital explosions?
morion Lighting Build 153	Posted - 2016.12.06 19:43:31 - [17] - Quote I would not expect CCP to change how they currently market PLEX. thought ... start with the whole PLEX 1. Logic how does it become split in game? 1.a. Right click select divide. 1.b. How granular? 2x or 3x ways 1.c. in 1/2 or in 1/4 2 Following "split" "PLEX PIECE" is a new market item. 2.a This creates a "plex" / month / 2 week / 7 day 2.b Cut that thing into toothpicks 24 hour pass. As new market items 4x at this point with the granularity. For traders there is trade arbitrage bewen ratios and price movement. So this spawns the question how do you ... Glue the "PLEX PIECE" together again. Market item 5x spawns for the industrialist. 3. Enter stage the Plex Glue BPO or 3.a. Shift highlight X sise + qantitys / combinations Select "combine" resuling in the "most compacted" or "options" "most compacted" form could spawn market item 6x the one year PLEX. Be a Baller the 10 year Plex. "having the subscription tool" PLEX located in moor than one trade window possibly as many as x7 is both bad and good The trader in me likes the idea . The realist in me is skeptical. in conclusion. Would players use it ? Do players need it ? Would it be fun ?
blargderp United Earth Space Council 3	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:27:24 - [18] - Quote morion wrote: in conclusion. 1.Would players use it ? 2.Do players need it ? 3.Would it be fun ? 1.Most definitely. 2.Absolutely. Not everybody has the time to spare to grind out enough isk to stay subbed for a whole month, being able to buy a single week at a time would be an extremely useful feature. 3.Define "fun".
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 5560	Posted - 2016.12.06 20:49:58 - [19] - Quote radkid10 wrote: Nevyn Auscent wrote: You do know that this would significantly increase the overhead costs CCP would face right? As well as result in a bunch of 'tiny plex' that most players weren't interested in at all. It's a terrible idea for a bunch of administrative and trade reasons. it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay which means more money will be spent means more money for CCP No, it will make it harder. Suppose I'm going to sell you some beer. I can sell you 1 bottle for $2, a 6 pack of bottles for $10 or a case of 24 bottles for $35. Which is easier to buy? On a per bottle basis the last option is the best buy. Now, lets convert these over to weeks of game time. The first week I get more training and more SP, but it is then useless unless I buy another week. In the end, I'd be much better off buying my time in bulk, which if you do with a credit card you can get a pretty substantial discount. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
morion Lighting Build 153	Posted - 2016.12.06 21:00:54 - [20] - Quote blargderp wrote: morion wrote: in conclusion. 1.Would players use it ? 2.Do players need it ? 3.Would it be fun ? 1.Most definitely. 2.Absolutely. Not everybody has the time to spare to grind out enough isk to stay subbed for a whole month, being able to buy a single week at a time would be an extremely useful feature. 3.Define "fun". Define "fun" ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh 1 internet point to you
blargderp United Earth Space Council 3	Posted - 2016.12.06 21:55:14 - [21] - Quote Teckos Pech wrote: radkid10 wrote: Nevyn Auscent wrote: You do know that this would significantly increase the overhead costs CCP would face right? As well as result in a bunch of 'tiny plex' that most players weren't interested in at all. It's a terrible idea for a bunch of administrative and trade reasons. it makes it easier for Alpha players to pay which means more money will be spent means more money for CCP No, it will make it harder. Suppose I'm going to sell you some beer. I can sell you 1 bottle for $2, a 6 pack of bottles for $10 or a case of 24 bottles for $35. Which is easier to buy? On a per bottle basis the last option is the best buy. Now, lets convert these over to weeks of game time. The first week I get more training and more SP, but it is then useless unless I buy another week. In the end, I'd be much better off buying my time in bulk, which if you do with a credit card you can get a pretty substantial discount. I see nothing wrong with making people choose between convenience or value. Why not let alphas learn this the hard way? Why not let casual players have a more casual option for plexing instead of being forced to commit to a whole month? Why not let PLEX sellers have options and further stimulate the economy? You really need to consider the big picture here instead of just focusing on how this would inconvenience or rather, not convenience, you personally.
Dirty Little Girl Szkoleniowa Stajnia Kerbirow 2	Posted - 2016.12.07 12:02:44 - [22] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: Ok, lets assume you go monthly. $15/mo. Let's assume you play 10 hours/week (which is low for most of us) that's less than $0.40 per hour. If you can't afford that, you should probably be studying to get a better job instead of gaming. This exactly. Especially if one is in median EVE player's age - if they cant afford $15 per month at that age, they have way more important problems than affording a computer game.
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 511	Posted - 2016.12.07 15:05:28 - [23] - Quote Dirty Little Girl wrote: Sonya Corvinus wrote: Ok, lets assume you go monthly. $15/mo. Let's assume you play 10 hours/week (which is low for most of us) that's less than $0.40 per hour. If you can't afford that, you should probably be studying to get a better job instead of gaming. This exactly. Especially if one is in median EVE player's age - if they cant afford $15 per month at that age, they have way more important problems than affording a computer game. And if the player isn't in this median age? Much younger, and scraping together allowances? Much older and on SS or a pension making half or less of what they made their prime. Or suddenly broken, and paying hospital bills and/or are on disability - having a lot of recuperation time, but not able to work? --Gadget Note: I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm actually rather meh about other payment plans less than 1 month at a time. Personally, I don't want Titan-pilot-for-a-day to show up. While it might make the battles interesting (or just more blobby), I'd rather not see EvE turned into pay-per-minute super microtransactioned FTP game. But perhaps that's just my stubbornness. If CCP does go that route, it will change how people play, but maybe it's something that can be adapted to. Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."
radkid10 Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 46	Posted - 2016.12.07 19:06:03 - [24] - Quote it's easier to pay 300 million for 7 days or 600 or 700 million for two weeks in isk instead of paying 1,1 billion for a month
blargderp United Earth Space Council 3	Posted - 2016.12.08 19:34:18 - [25] - Quote radkid10 wrote: it's easier to pay 300 million for 7 days or 600 or 700 million for two weeks in isk instead of paying 1,1 billion for a month Exactly my same sentiments, I'd like the option of being able to spend a little bit more for a little bit less, but be able to use it when I can take full advantage of it. Not everyone can, or is willing to, grind out a plex within that specific 30 day time period. People have lives, there are other games that people play, and it's super easy to burn out on EVE.
Frostys Virpio Yet another corpdot. 3007	Posted - 2016.12.08 19:53:29 - [26] - Quote Gadget Helmsdottir wrote: Sonya Corvinus wrote: is $12/mo really not affordable to you? $15, dear. Specifically $14.95 (plus any bank fees for foreign transactions). It's only $12/month if you buy the 6-month sub, for $71.70 in one chunk. For those wanting the make EvE even more microtransactioned, if they can't afford - or are just unwilling - to shell out $15, seventy-plus dollars is far out of the question. --Gadget #Nopoors

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