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Beetlebug	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:34:00 - [1] I've downloaded and installed Eve only a couple of hours ago and my first impression of Eve is a very good one :) I am yet to finish the tutorial (I just killed my first pirates!!) but I'm looking forward to exploring this universe with you all. I'd like to hear from some of you vets about some of the do's and don'ts and maybe someone could point me in the direction of a few fan sites that will help me get through the first few days of playing?
Diehard Si UK1 Zero Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:38:00 - [2] All you need to know is right here: http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/ few lessons for the new player. 1.)Never take from a yellow can or wreck. 2.)Always have a skill training, they train when you are not online also 3.)Never fly a ship you can't afford to lose 4.)Don't go into space with a sec status of 0.4 or lower as this is called low sec and dangerous for a new player. 5.)Find a corp to join to help you out more -------------------------------------- Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life!
DgO4 Final-Vendetta The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:41:00 - [3] Welcome to Eve Beetle, Well if you're enjoying it so far you've got sooooooo much ahead of you and a massive learning curve. Best advice so far i can personally give is Bigger is not better (i.e. seeing 3 month old player in Battleships is a big no no). Basicly get youself into a decent rookie help corp that will help you with mission running or mining. Which ever takes your fancy. If you're into PVP or Pve start from the smallest ships and get good with them. Like train for hybirds/lasers/projectile small spec and get you basic eng,mech,elecy/gunnery skills up to 5. oh and your learning skills. And always fly ships you can afford to lose. Oh and read these forums alot to keep you up to date. We are the pilgrims, Master, We will always go a little farther.....
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:43:00 - [4] 6) Everyone lies 7) Every deal is a scam 8) It's only cheating if you get caught 9) Stealing and scamming is not just allowed, it's encouraged by CCP. 10) Trust N O O N E. That includes GMs, devs and your own mother. And hey, welcome to EVE Online. -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
DgO4 Final-Vendetta The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:45:00 - [5] yeah dont dice with people offering you something that requiers nothing. Never give out your account info and never lend people isk or ships, unless you know them in RL. We are the pilgrims, Master, We will always go a little farther.....
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:47:00 - [6] Welcome to EVE! You can leave your real life with the door! EVE is as you say a fantastic game! There is a advice though I would like to give you. And that is Patience is a virtue! A neccesity really in EVE! Also, maturity comes a long way here with the playerbase! Using ones brain now and then too usually helps. This is not WoW thankfully! But dont let me scare you! As I allready said, this game IS fantastic! There are lots of nice people around, usually ready to help you if you have questions! So dont be afraid asking questions! As a matter of fact, getting into a player corporation might be the best advice at all I can give you! Look for the recruit forum Here or ingame! So good luck in EVE! Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:49:00 - [7] The first couple of days and weeks were amongst the best ones in Eve for me. Starting with nothing and finding ways to make money when you have almost nothing is always one of the most enjoyable experiences for me with any mmorpg. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Beetlebug	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:50:00 - [8] Thanks for the info and I have to say being new to the game is rather daunting but I'm excited about trying a new MMO and I'm honestly hoping that the learning curve discourages the worst of the twelve year olds hehe.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:50:00 - [9] Rule 1001) Leave any Veldspar labeled Chribba alone Help me help you .

Gene Wolfe	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:57:00 - [10] Take it one day at a time. Find a ship you like,you think looks cool and try to fly it. Look at the required skills and get started on the pathway to flying your cool ship.
RaWBLooD	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Beetlebug I've downloaded and installed Eve only a couple of hours ago and my first impression of Eve is a very good one :) I am yet to finish the tutorial (I just killed my first pirates!!) but I'm looking forward to exploring this universe with you all. I'd like to hear from some of you vets about some of the do's and don'ts and maybe someone could point me in the direction of a few fan sites that will help me get through the first few days of playing? by tomorrow you should know if you will stick with the game or not. i suggest that when you decide that you will to spend the next few weeks training up learning skills mostly while you do your favorite activity to hold you over until then (mission running or mining or low-time trading) miners-you can: switch, rob, wardec, nerf, scam them, buy below market, pirate them on their way to sell. mining < trading, ratting, manufacturing from market bought minerals,they still wont go away
Brigitte Helm	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:21:00 - [12] 1) dont expect to do too much too soon 2) Find a group of friendly ppl 3) Talk in local 4) Dont be afraid of the pod you will see it more then you want to
Echo Trent	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:22:00 - [13] Edited by: Echo Trent on 09/04/2007 12:19:42 To avoid training a million skill points of learning in one go I would alternate between learning and non-learning skills, training learning skills that increased the attribute required by the next non-learning skill. Edit: someone stole the first pirate loot I got in Eve, giving me kill rights in my noob ship.
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:27:00 - [14] Welcome To Eve-Online The best thing to do first is to get to grips with the basic mechanics of the game, and the UI. Have a read of the Player Guide to get yourself up to speed with how the base principles of the game work. Your first port of call should be thinking about what you want to do in Eve. Do you want to mine? NPC hunt? Pirate? Join an alliance? Be an Explorer? The possibilities are pretty much endless. From here you can take a look at the market, and select which skills you need to train to master your chosen profession. Be aware though, a lot of Eve's success is based around player interaction and knowledge, meaning the only real skill once you reach your physical training limit is your own knowledge of the game, that comes with time. I'd recommend getting out of your rookie frigate and into something heavier as soon as possible. Checking in game I can see your character is Amarrian, so you probably want to be working toward a "Punisher" class frigate, then a "Maller" or "Omen" class cruiser once you're ready if you intend to use your guns. As well as training toward your own races hardware, you can also cross train to use other the hardware of other races, so the possibilities are pretty much endless when it comes to ship fitting and classes. The most important thing to remember about fitting a ship is to take into account it's native bonuses. These are bonuses specific to the ship class (for instance the Punsiher class frigate gains 10% bonus to Small Energy Turret Capacitor use, and 5% bonus to all it's armor resistances per level of the Amarr frigate skill you have trained). There's a lot to learn in Eve. Some people have been playing 4 years and still haven't figured it all out A few simple survival rules are key to staying well... not dead in Eve. While you're still getting to grips with the game, stick to 0.5 security space and above. There are people like me (pirates) in low security and lawless (0.0) space. As well as that areas of 0.0 space are fiercly contested between alliances and you're liable to be shot first and told to leave later if you tresspass into someone's space. Trust no one fully. Never give anyone the chance to be in a position to rip you off. When buying or selling on the market, check the regional average before you click the buy/sell button to make sure you're not being ripped off. As well as that, always price check your gear before you buy or sell it by looking at the market to get an idea of it's value. Never assume you are safe from attack, unless you are docked. Ever. CONCORD are like a police force. They can punish an offender, but can't always prevent the crime. Finally, there are a lot of great player guides about on these forums. There is a sticky in the New Player's Q&A section here that offers an assload of guides to help you on your way to being an evil (or fluffy kind) mastermind in Eve. Basically, In short, Have fun. Eve is so open ended it's unbeleivable. You can sit content as a miner in high security space, or with the right motivation you can rise to be the leader of a 4000 man alliance with enough dedication. Choice is yours. If you need any more help, drop me an Eve-Mail in game. >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
MindBender The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:46:00 - [15] First off... have a goal. If you can figure out what you want to do in this game and then work on getting to that point, you will get a lot farther than most. The Help channel can be your friend at times... and the forums are a huge source of information. Work on learning skills when you can... to help you figure out what learning skills to train I would use EVEMon to get your skill path going. Once again, having a plan and goal here will help you out greatly. Figuring out what ships and weapons you want to use will get you on the right track. Lastly, have fun... meet new people. Get into a friendly empire corp... stay far far away from CAOD, it's dirty.
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:05:00 - [16] I'm surprised nobody mentionned another golden rule... always update your clone ! Even in highsec , people can and might podkill you just for fun (unlikely but it happens) and the most precious things you have are your skills. It's interesting to explore lowsec and 0.0 as a newbie if you have a cheap ship and clone , just make sure you don't lose skillpoints in the process.
Professor Bohpah	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Diehard Si All you need to know is right here: http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/ few lessons for the new player. 1.)Never take from a yellow can or wreck. 2.)Always have a skill training, they train when you are not online also 3.)Never fly a ship you can't afford to lose 4.)Don't go into space with a sec status of 0.4 or lower as this is called low sec and dangerous for a new player. 5.)Find a corp to join to help you out more I agree with this except #4. While you're still very new in the Eve universe with very few skillpoints, a cheap clone, and a cheap ship, I'd actually encourage you to go into low sec and even die a few times there. It'll desensitise you againt being killed by other players, make you less fearful of 0.0, and harden you to life and loss in Eve.
Victor Ivanov Minmatar Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Reverend Revelator 6) Everyone lies 7) Every deal is a scam 8) It's only cheating if you get caught 9) Stealing and scamming is not just allowed, it's encouraged by CCP. 10) Trust N O O N E. That includes GMs, devs and your own mother. And hey, welcome to EVE Online. The man speaks truth. ..On an entirely unrelated note, I have this great ship for sale, which only new players can fly! Price: Your soul. Convo me in game! ----------------------
Marlenus Ironfleet Towing And Salvage	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Diehard Si 1.)Never take from a yellow can or wreck. Lots of good advice in this thread but the above is dead wrong. Aggressive salvage from "wrecks you did not cultivate yourself" is one of the most lucrative and entertaining professions open to a new player with a long way to go up the skills tree. Just be aware that it's a mildly semi-criminal act that can get you blown up, and plan accordingly. Use a disposable ship (an Ibis is great if you leave all your stuff in the station), watch over your shoulder, be prepared to dock in a hurry once you have the loot. What else can you do during your first hour in the game that can (a) get you something worth a million isk and (b) cause some 20 million skill-points player to get his knickers in a twist? (I really should say "get you something worth a hundred million ISK". I once found, in an asteroid belt in a newbie system, in a can generated by a one-day-old newbie character who couldn't be bothered to loot his kill, a Low-Grade Crystal Gamma implant that's worth in excess of a hundred million ISK. This is no bull, I really did. The newbie -- clearly a somewhat twinked alt, given how fast he was in a Merlin -- had blown up one of the rare "Dread Gurista" spawns and left the can without checking it.) ------------------ Ironfleet.com Proposal: Automated Ore Return Vehicles
Barbarellas Daughter Lonely Barbarella	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:49:00 - [20] You are lucky, Verone and Chribba posted in your first thread! Maybe SirMolle also makes a comment
Ayumu Kosuga	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:21:00 - [21] Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter You are lucky, Verone and Chribba posted in your first thread! Maybe SirMolle also makes a comment no - let's hope he doesn't ... otherwise this thread would get locked after 20pages of flames .. per hour.
Eskalin Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:47:00 - [22] welcome to eve get the learning skills done asap if your gooing to stick arouns get a 2nd account they are very usefull and read the forums with a grain of salt have fun =) ps if molle posted it would drag all the trolls up out of the caod Originally by: MrTripps combat in Jita is as slow and ugly as watching senior citizens copulate.
R'olyat Gallente Raging Phoenix Incorporated North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:56:00 - [23] Another thing that maybe no one mentioned is: Expect to lose ships ALOT, especially if you PVP. The first time you loose a ship you worked hard to get its gonna suck and you may want to gulp quit. Just suck it up and move on, later, as you get older ship losses wont freak you out so much. Also, if your ship gets blow up by someone, warp off first ask questions later, don't wanna get podded :). ___________________________ Phear T3h almighty Roboranis!
Neon Genesis Gallente The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:04:00 - [24] The learning skills are very important, and should be trained as soon as possible.
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:15:00 - [25] Some of these are already mentioned but bear repeating: 1) Trust no one. Can't say that enough. Unless someone exploits an actual game bug, they're allowed to lie, cheat or steal from you, so familiarize yourself with the tools the game provides and use them correctly. 2) Keep your clone up to date and insure your ship. 3) You'll lose ships. A lot of them. Experiement with different fittings and learn what does what to who. Learn about damage types, resistances and how to tank- all that is available in these forums, usually by way of a sticky post. 4) Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Been said before but bears repeating. If you undock in it, you might lose it. 5) It's a game. Have fun. Once you've played for a while you should check out the corp recruitment forum and find a corporation that fits your playstyle and goals. Good luck!
Mr Mozzie Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:21:00 - [26] Try lots of things, take it easy at first. Also there are several player corps that are dedicated to introducing new players to the game. Consider joining one. I highly recomend Eve University.
Andargor theWise Collateral Damage Unlimited Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:24:00 - [27] Originally by: Mr Mozzie Try lots of things, take it easy at first. Also there are several player corps that are dedicated to introducing new players to the game. Consider joining one. I highly recomend Eve University. Seconded. - Got grief? Revelations MySQL Database
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:47:00 - [28] Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter You are lucky, Verone and Chribba posted in your first thread! Maybe SirMolle also makes a comment The rest of us are obviously invisible, which come to think of it, is actually way way cooler. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
DaveW Caldari South Park Development	Posted - 2007.04.09 16:12:00 - [29] Don't waste time looking for an "I win" button. It dosen't exist. Good luck... --------------------------------------------------- "If you can't stand the heat..., stay out of the Kitchen."
Tachuro Otapaku	Posted - 2007.04.09 16:22:00 - [30] Originally by: Mr Mozzie Try lots of things, take it easy at first. Also there are several player corps that are dedicated to introducing new players to the game. Consider joining one. I highly recomend Eve University. Join the Eve University public channel for info about joining - Note: We are at war currently, with the oh so infamous Privateer Alliance. Apparently someone with money doesn't like us or something...anyway, Recruiting slows down a good bit because of an active war, but we're happy to answer any questions in the public channel :)

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