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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
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Posted - 2016.12.21 17:41:51 -
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The sub price drops if you pay more up front (I essentially pay $10 a month because I bought a 12 month subscription up front).
And while you are correct in that you will not pay more than what an item is worth, I think your perception on how much a massive, multi-faceted MMO is worth is more than a bit skewed.
I find it fascinating how people will drop 50 to 60 USD on a game with only about 15 hours of playable content. Granted, you can keep running the same content over and over at your leisure... but it is still the same content.
Then those same people will drop another 30 USD on another 5 hours of DLC content. And run that into the ground for a year or two until the next edition comes out... at which point they drop another 50 to 60 USD.
What you pay here for EVE is the equivalent of a face-sized burrito per month. Or a cinema ticket. Really think about that.
And no... there is no "later in the game" or "endgame" in EVE.
Skills and ships simply give you more options and makes things a little easier / more comfortable. Nothing more or less.
If you want to go out and do something, DO IT. The game is not mechanically holding you back.
How did you Veterans start?
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2016.12.21 18:07:16 -
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Joe Vjeverica wrote:i feel eve sub of 15$ per month aint worth it until you get to the later game,
this is just BS, lol.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
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Posted - 2016.12.21 18:33:00 -
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Joe Vjeverica wrote:it aint about the 15$....its about the principle.....you could say hey, if you dont have 30$ to buy this box of matches then you have other things to worry abotu in life....thats not the point, point is value for your money....you aint gonna pay something 100 times more than its worth although you can technically afford it right? i feel eve sub of 15$ per month aint worth it until you get to the later game, and maybe even then its questionable if its too high for the general population of part time players.
How many hours/month do you play? |

Ogmento
Og Holdings
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Posted - 2016.12.22 07:05:24 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:
Eve success and longevity is BECAUSE it is not like Most MMOs.
I think that is why keep coming back; I used to play wing commander, and my favorite was privateer. Then, I played above and beyond (founder decal and all). I love this genre and this is the best game in it. It just can't keep for long because it gets so dull at times.
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Lena Crews
Universal Sanitation Corporation
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Posted - 2016.12.22 16:58:43 -
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I was trying to think how a "premium" level might work in eve (for those who've paid before but are now alpha).
The only thing I could think of that seemed reasonable (and not leading to farmable alpha-alts) was to have those who've subbed have access to ALL the alpha skills of all the races. So... no PI, nothing above cruisers... but you could fly Amarr/Gallente/Mini/Caldari cruisers if you've subbed an account in the past and let it lapse to alpha.
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Joe Vjeverica
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.12.23 13:42:59 -
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ShahFluffers wrote: And no... there is no "later in the game" or "endgame" in EVE.
Skills and ships simply give you more options and makes things a little easier / more comfortable. Nothing more or less.
If you want to go out and do something, DO IT. The game is not mechanically holding you back.
ok dood like i said....i played for 7 years about 10 hours a day....spare me the lectures......if you wanna test it lets do a test.....ill play your account for a month youll play mine....and tell me its tooootally the same for you to play a 500k sp char flapping hid d!ck in highsec/lowsec in a t1 fitted rifter or your 30 million one thats already heavily integrated into the game tropugh the years....yea...there is no later game...nope...zilch...toooootaly same |

Joe Vjeverica
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.12.23 13:43:45 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Joe Vjeverica wrote:i feel eve sub of 15$ per month aint worth it until you get to the later game, this is just BS, lol.
read my post above |

Lena Crews
Universal Sanitation Corporation
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Posted - 2016.12.23 15:22:59 -
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Joe Vjeverica wrote:hello guys. i played eve really hardcore from 2003 to 2010 then finally quit since i saw it chewing my life away. Now i saw the alpha stuffz and said why not, ill give it a go....
so far my alpha experience is that i only have motivation to log in on the 2 accounts i made to put skills into training...what im really wondering is... why would an alpha have a 2x slower training time? is seems like its bait ccp made ...if you sub you train up 2 times faster blabla so sub right now... because for me the plan is to get some skills first to actually start playing the game properly....so now i need what, 6 months to train up the full skills of alpha and then maybe think of a sub? why not speed up the tempo....i might resub 3 months earlier if i maxed out my alpha skills faster, plus i would explore the game again much faster too and keep interest in it more since im getting more toys faster....kinda feels like a 2x slower training for alphas backfires a bit here....and especially for returning players that have basically seen it all in eve already....
second, and i kinda support the op's idea....15Gé¼ per month is a bit steep for a noob account....i like the idea that you could pay like 3Gé¼ per month and get the lets say 7 mil sp package...5Gé¼ for 13mil sp etc etc....with 15Gé¼ being the full skillset of the game if you want it....at low skillspoints it feels like the game is just not worth the full subscription when your running around in your little destroyer for 4 months with your d!ck out playing with your colouring pens with the other kids in the kindergarten...
i always thought this game would go bananas in popularity, population and overall fun factor if the subscription was like 40-50% cheaper in general...and i know many others that would still play it if it was, if nothing else to skill up their chars...but that always means that they are sooner or later back in the game...this way alot of people just quit since its not worth it being a part time eve subscriber.
Most returning players already have the skills.
I played for a couple of years back in 2006/2007. I got an alpha account through steam and after playing for a few hours I thought... "Yeah, I miss having STUFF." So I managed to reactivate my account and had pretty much maxed alpha skills (other than new skills that weren't there in 2007 like mining frigates). So I jumped right past that "6 month skilling" window because I WAS a returning player.
A week later I resubbed because I wanted to fly my space potato again.
I don't think returning players are the issue with training... as most will return to their existing account (why train at ANY speed if you already have the skills?). It's more of a "new player" question. |

Jinn McKellin
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.23 15:42:59 -
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Joe Vjeverica wrote:ShahFluffers wrote: And no... there is no "later in the game" or "endgame" in EVE.
Skills and ships simply give you more options and makes things a little easier / more comfortable. Nothing more or less.
If you want to go out and do something, DO IT. The game is not mechanically holding you back.
its not mechanically holding me back? whaa? thats exactly what it does....thats exacrtly why ccp limits alpha accounts and thats exactly why they want to sell me full sub - so i am not mechanically held back in the game. ok dood like i said....i played for 7 years about 10 hours a day....spare me the lectures......if you wanna test it lets do a test.....ill play your account for a month youll play mine....and tell me its tooootally the same for you to play a 500k sp char flapping hid d!ck in highsec/lowsec in a t1 fitted rifter or your 30+ million one thats already heavily integrated into the game tropugh the years and can fly mostly everything there is and fit any role ....yea...there is no later game...nope...zilch...toooootaly same were talking abour returning players here.....that have basically seen it all in the game...and no, they aint gonna be impressed again for a loong time.
Then bio-mass your char and leave the game. Tired of listening to whinny Alpha's wanting more for less. |

Joe Vjeverica
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.12.24 10:24:31 -
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that is probably the most viable option....thanx for hearing me out and good luck getting more players (back) to the game |
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