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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2990
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:40:46 -
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Yesterday I have received a message from Vincent Pryce, called himself a Domination Seraphim. According to the regulation, I can not publish its contents there, however I can say, that it included threats against State civilians.
As an officer of Caldari State, who swore to protect the State, I would like to remind you about our policy: we do not negotiate with pirates, and no demands will be met.
Moreover, as a consequence of Mr. Pryce's threat and another Angel representative assasination attempt, after a request to Caldari Navy and on their behalf a Punitive Expedition has been issued to cleanse Angel presence from Uchomida solar system of Black Rise region of Caldari State.
As a result of the operation, the following ships have been destroyed:
20 frigates;
6 destroyers;
5 cruiser;
26 battlecruisers;
38 Battleships, among them designated:
10 as Warlord,
7 as War General,
6 as Malakim,
5 as General,
4 as Commander,
2 as Saint,
2 as Throne,
1 as Nephilim and
1 as Seraphim.
Besides ships there were demolished:
over 20 turrets;
a scanner post;
a tactical outpost;
6 storage facilities;
3 landing pads;
3 cargo rigs;
a gas storage silo;
a radio telescope;
an asteroid mining post;
an asteroid colony;
a pulsating power generator;
an angel bunker
and even the whole Angel Battlestation.
Let it be a message to all the Angels and other space trash who will dare to mess with Caldari Officers. We won't go easy and subtle on you. The punishment for piracy is DEATH.
Glory to the State!
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
543
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Posted - 2016.12.16 00:18:45 -
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Well done, Strike Commander.
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
776
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Posted - 2016.12.16 00:27:23 -
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Grr Angels! Hat Angels. |
Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
1042
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Posted - 2016.12.16 01:40:24 -
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Perhaps you'd like to mention the reasons that certain Cartel operatives are gunning for you?
Didn't an Amarr loyalist run you through with a sword for your recent words and actions?
It takes a rare talent to p*ss off the Amarr Bloc and the Cartel in one fell swoop. I personally haven't seen that level of neolithic Caldari incompetence since Heth was in charge.
I will leave you with these three things to consider.
A strike against Amarr is like unto treason to the State, for duels of Empires always take precedent.
God and Empire are eternal.
And Angels...are never far.
Have a nice day.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
649
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Posted - 2016.12.16 01:42:26 -
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Good thing killmails are not allowed here.
We could be talking about battles in space between pilots instead of rat kills.
As strength goes.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2993
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Posted - 2016.12.16 02:03:21 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:
And Angels...are never far.
Good, that means they will be within our guns reach.
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Have a nice day.
Have a nice jam.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Karmilla Strife
Black Dog Shady Missionaries
512
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Posted - 2016.12.16 02:43:11 -
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So you completed an agent mission or two against the Cartel? I'm married to Vincent and he doesn't get too pissed off at me when I do that for Amarrian agents.
You're going to have to try harder to get the Cartel's notice sweetheart.They're the oldest pirate organization in the cluster, their reach is the limit of K-space. I've often wondered if the dregs the security agents send capsuleers up against are just the dead weight dragging the organization down. The failures without a retirement plan more comprehensive than "guard that illegal stargate against whatever" |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
2364
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Posted - 2016.12.16 03:13:05 -
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You'll have to do better than that Kimmie. I've offed more Angels than that on a lazy Sunday afternoon and without the need to run to the IGS to brag about it.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
61
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Posted - 2016.12.16 05:07:52 -
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It's almost adorable how Kim has such a simplistic view of the Cartel. Also, how she thinks that has anything more than a symbolic impact.
The Cartel has bigger enemies and friends than that. Sometimes, the same people belong to both groups. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2669
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Posted - 2016.12.16 05:18:55 -
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I certainly won't denigrate Diana for going and dealing with the particular flavor of pirate she was tasked with hunting. But at the same time: 95 ships.
As I've said before, Delve is still on track to exceed 20,000,000 Blood Raider vessels destroyed in December alone.
No-one should even begin to underestimate the scope of these organizations. |
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
2997
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Posted - 2016.12.16 11:20:06 -
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For those who have foolishly assumed that I wanted to drown Angels in blood just by one operation, I now will explain the message that was delivered.
It was 95 dead ships whose destruction was caused just by a word of an Angel pirate against State officer.
This is a reply to a threat: the preemptive action. And those, who haven't realized that and made me to write this reply to explain it, shall feel shame.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
Sani-Sabik
1863
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Posted - 2016.12.16 11:33:36 -
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That Vincent Pryce. What a card.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
144
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Posted - 2016.12.16 14:07:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:For those who have foolishly assumed that I wanted to drown Angels in blood just by one operation, I now will explain the message that was delivered.
It was 95 dead ships whose destruction was caused just by a word of an Angel pirate against State officer.
This is a reply to a threat: the preemptive action. And those, who haven't realized that and made me to write this reply to explain it, shall feel shame.
And people say the Gallente are blood thirsty, eh? |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1678
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Posted - 2016.12.16 14:15:47 -
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Well, you did good I guess, though you are claiming victory for something that is basically is a paper cut(if that even) and treating it like you stabbed them. The message isn't necessarily bad but not exactly a huge blow, to pride or physically... |
Andreus Ixiris
SergalJerk
Test Alliance Please Ignore
6039
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Posted - 2016.12.16 14:40:09 -
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It's not as if you're likely to listen to me, Kim, but Vincent Pryce is a very old acquaintance of mine. In fact, he often claims that I was the one who first taught him to fight. As one who's very familiar with him, allow me to offer a word of advice, genuine advice that I don't expect or desire that you repay me for. I wouldn't usually give advice on how to fight an old friend, especially to you, but if State civilians are in danger - and if Vincent Pryce really threatened them, then they most certainly are - I'm willing to put aside my pride for their sake.
If Vincent Pryce has threatened to do something, he absolutely intends to do it. Not only that, but he's absolutely capable of doing it. The man is excellent at gauging his own capabilities, and doesn't make threats he knows he can't deliver on. He is utterly ruthless in pursuit of his goals. He was the one who started the battle of Asakai - one of New Eden's largest and most catastrophic battles - because he so dearly wanted to be on a Titan killmail that he HIC-jammed its jumpdrive with almost no support ships on the field. When we ran together, he flew into the range of a Hyperion's guns in an untanked Blackbird just to bait it into engaging for long enough for the rest of our fleet to kill it. He's not always successful and his plans are rarely rational, but he will absolutely dedicate everything he has to see his goals accomplished.
It'll take something very serious to deter him from that course of action. With respect, your efforts are insufficient. Killing a few Angels who aren't even capsuleers won't stop him; if anything, it'll amuse him. He'll continue to provoke you in hopes of getting you to do it again. This topic you've written was probably part of his plan; I suspect he wanted to goad you into doing something like this. Financial loss will not deter him, as I happen to know he's both exceptionally rich and exceptionally unconcerned with the possibility of ceasing to be rich. He will continue until he's either achieved his goal, or the prospect of achieving it no longer provides him sufficient entertainment.
If civilian lives really are threatened and you are sufficiently dedicated to their survival, I do, however, know of a method by which the problem might be gotten rid of.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
1047
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Posted - 2016.12.16 15:05:52 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:
If civilian lives really are threatened and you are sufficiently dedicated to their survival, I do, however, know of a method by which the problem might be gotten rid of.
The story I received and that Kim is avoiding, is basically, she threatened the life of a woman and her newborn children. Certain people within the Amarr Loyalist Bloc and the Cartel who were witness to these ravings took offense and decided to take steps to prevent this from happening.
As I said, it takes a rare talent to anger both groups simultaneously.
I'm sure the facts of the matter are available, should you choose to seek them out.
"From on high, they came with wisdom and mercy. They delivered greatness to the people. But when provoked, their wroth was immutable."
- The Scriptures, Book of Missions, 45:3
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Templar Thal Vadam
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
32
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Posted - 2016.12.16 15:08:25 -
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I doubt this will prove effective. The Cartel is a vast enough organization to replace all that has been destroyed. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Tyrathlion Interstellar
Rote Kapelle
6943
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Posted - 2016.12.16 16:06:57 -
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If I know Vincent, he'd likely thank you for thinning the herd a little.
Or is it a flock? What is the collective name for a group of angels? A host?
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Samira Kernher
2927
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Posted - 2016.12.16 16:29:54 -
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A host. |
Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
64
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Posted - 2016.12.16 16:38:13 -
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Diana Kim wrote:For those who have foolishly assumed that I wanted to drown Angels in blood just by one operation, I now will explain the message that was delivered.
It was 95 dead ships whose destruction was caused just by a word of an Angel pirate against State officer.
This is a reply to a threat: the preemptive action. And those, who haven't realized that and made me to write this reply to explain it, shall feel shame.
I have this sense that you are saying this and expecting somebody to feel intimidated. Truly, I can appreciate that: you're standing up in defense of a group of people you care about. At some level, I find it admirable.
But I think you're seriously misjudging the scale of the Cartel, its existing operations, and the level of conflict it already has with other capsuleers. If you refocused all of your combat focus on the Cartel, they still would barely take notice in comparison with the conflict within Republic space (not to mention their nullsec operations).
Not to mention: the Dominations in general (even apart from Pryce) don't necessarily react to signals the way you seem to expect, in part because their goals are hidden and their methods often more so. |
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative
375
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Posted - 2016.12.16 17:04:10 -
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This is a joke, right?
That's all I can give it, in terms of the credibility of the effort versus the intended "message".
Normally I don't bother with the Reverse Federation Recruitment Ad, but this reminds me of an upset furrier half-eating a pillow because you forgot to feed it. With a similar result.
It's hilarious, in that exact same way. Hence, a joke.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Jason Galente
Hole Riders
1015
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Posted - 2016.12.16 17:50:05 -
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Tl;DR!
Diana Kim tries out ratting for 30 minutes. Has a blast.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Velarra
546
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Posted - 2016.12.17 17:04:34 -
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Diana Kim wrote:
Besides ships there were demolished:
6 storage facilities;
3 landing pads;
an asteroid mining post;
an asteroid colony;
a pulsating power generator;
Base-liner civilian infrastructure. Lovely work, pilot. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
3000
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Posted - 2016.12.17 22:35:11 -
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Templar Thal Vadam wrote:I doubt this will prove effective. The Cartel is a vast enough organization to replace all that has been destroyed.
And yet they are tiny compared to the State. Let them know what one officer can do.
Now imagine two officers.
Ten officers.
Thousand.
A Million.
I repeat again, it was conducted to show how we reply on threats.
Velarra wrote:Diana Kim wrote:
Besides ships there were demolished:
6 storage facilities;
3 landing pads;
an asteroid mining post;
an asteroid colony;
a pulsating power generator;
Base-liner civilian infrastructure. Lovely work, pilot.
Incorrect.
Base-liner pirate infrastructure. They were built illegally in Caldari State souvereign space. All baseliners employed to work by pirate captains, pirate colony managers and pirate CEO are considered pirates by default, unless their innocence will be proven by tribunal.
Unfortunately, the speed with which these structures were destroyed and the magnitude of the explosions prevented me from collectig pirate crew in suitable medical condition (i.e. being alive) to be put under trial.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
71
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Posted - 2016.12.17 23:09:43 -
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Somehow I think the entire State, or even the capsuleer contingent thereof, is not about to drop everything else and go hit pirate bases because you say so.
You really did not pay attention to anything said above, including by those of us with a bit of history with the Cartel. I guess that's fine, though, because it keeps you distracted from whatever other **** you get up to. |
Teinyhr
Ourumur
748
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Posted - 2016.12.18 11:24:06 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:Grr Angels! Hat Angels.
I await with bated breath to hear why not to hate Angels any less than other of the criminal organizations in the cluster. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2774
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Posted - 2016.12.18 17:25:51 -
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Teinyhr wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:Grr Angels! Hat Angels. I await with bated breath to hear why not to hate Angels any less than other of the criminal organizations in the cluster.
Uh ... your meaning's a little tricky to parse, Ms. Teinyhr, but, I think the pro-Angel argument goes something like:
- "We're not Sansha's Nation and we're not the Blooders" (though they might sell you to either)
- "We're at war with Sansha's Nation-- and the only entity really actively pursuing that war."
- "More than any of our rivals, we are New Eden's black market. We provide for needs that the governments can't or don't care to fulfill. "
- "We are your dispossessed, those who have fallen through your society's cracks. In Curse, we have a nation of our own, but in 'empire' space we are the face of your own failings and corruption. We are the shadows of your own societies. You will never be rid of us, however you try. Best learn to deal with what you can never change-- as we have."
(To be clear, I'm not one anymore, and don't remember when I was. Only, obviously, some stuff, I still remember. Like arguments.) |
Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
76
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Posted - 2016.12.18 17:34:57 -
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I'd also like to hear why we should hate Angels any more than other criminal organizations.
(NB: I don't actually hate criminals.) |
Skyweir Kinnison
Coreli Corporation
Mercenary Coalition
349
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Posted - 2016.12.18 18:30:45 -
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Teinyhr wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:Grr Angels! Hat Angels. I await with bated breath to hear why not to hate Angels any less than other of the criminal organizations in the cluster.
I fear you have misunderstood. Mlle Ruil was clearly recommending the services of a milliner to the Cartel, which is a noble and enterprising effort to a group not widely known for their sartorial elegance.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
748
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Posted - 2016.12.18 18:43:08 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Teinyhr wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:Grr Angels! Hat Angels. I await with bated breath to hear why not to hate Angels any less than other of the criminal organizations in the cluster. Uh ... your meaning's a little tricky to parse, Ms. Teinyhr, but, I think the pro-Angel argument goes something like: - "We're not Sansha's Nation and we're not the Blooders" (though they might sell you to either)
- "We're at war with Sansha's Nation-- and the only entity really actively pursuing that war."
- "More than any of our rivals, we are New Eden's black market. We provide for needs that the governments can't or don't care to fulfill. "
- "We are your dispossessed, those who have fallen through your society's cracks. In Curse, we have a nation of our own, but in 'empire' space we are the face of your own failings and corruption. We are the shadows of your own societies. You will never be rid of us, however you try. Best learn to deal with what you can never change-- as we have."
(To be clear, I'm not one anymore, and don't remember when I was. Only, obviously, some stuff, I still remember. Like arguments.)
My meaning is that it is a criminal organization and why would you want to defend such an organization unless you are as despicable as they are?
So first off you nullify your own defence - nice. They sell people to slavery, prostitution, to experimentation, and to who knows what else. They are loyal only to their next paycheck.
Everyone is also at war with Sansha's Nation, and seeing how they still can organize their raids and throw tons of vessels at high security space just shows how little the Sansha seem to care or are inconvenienced about their war with the Angels.
Ah yes the black market of drugs, people, mercenaries and thugs. We needed more of those.
Ah yes, woe are the poor souls who live in Curse, who are only victims of society - oh and yes, who **** and pillage other decent folk when they get the chance or are paid for it. To think they are infallible and forever is, to put it mildly, naivete only on par with the capsuleers belief in their own infallibility and immortality.
Be pro-Angel if you want to speak on behalf of the worst the society has to offer. Sure, they might not be drinking your blood or turning you in to a barely sentient toaster, but if that's the standard of decency we admire today, well, we're ******.
Casiella Truza wrote:I'd also like to hear why we should hate Angels any more than other criminal organizations.
(NB: I don't actually hate criminals.)
Nobody told you to hate them more.
Neither do I hate a pickpocket who steals only to survive to the next day, but criminal empires are a whole another entity and worth only our contempt. |
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