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Kydreth
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Posted - 2007.04.09 22:56:00 -
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Hello. I have a few questions about the curse and the pilgrim, has i have heard of both being good pvp solo ships.
1) Whats the difference in how they are played?
2) Is one more suited toward group or solo?
3) What is the success rate of solo pvp for curse/pilgrim?
4) Are they pvp only or can they be suited for npc killing?
5) How are they at pirate hunting?
For the "Other" in the topic, is there a pvp ship that just jumps in, fires off a ton of dmg in as little amount of time as possible to kill ship, and leaves? Kinda like the "assassin" class guys in other games.
Thanks for your help
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king jks
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:01:00 -
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1. Yes, the Curse is a gang ship meant to stay as far away from the fight as possible, hence the nos range bonus, with Recon 4 and best named medium nos you get about 32km nos range. Pilgrim needs to be in regular nos range to function, thus it gets in and tanks rather well.
2. Curse = group, Pilgrim = solo/very small gang, but this doesn't by any means limit them to those specific roles, its just what they're very good at.
3. Pretty good actually, you should know with reasonable certainty whether to engage a target before you decloak in the case of a pilgrim, but most of the time if you know what you're doing you will do fine.
4. Curse can be adapted to NPC hunt, 6 mids = good shield tank, and it has 4 missle slots, was thinking of using one for angels, but as always myrmidon is better. Point being, sure they can do it, but why would you with more effictient ships out there, only thing pilgrim has going for it is the cloak ability to ninja rat.
5. See 3.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:04:00 -
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1/ The Pilgrim is a Force Recon, and Force Recons can cloak without being nigh-on immobilised. It can move at full speed and warp while cloaked, making it the 'U-Boat' of the Eve universe. Once you decloak you tend to be committed though, so the Pilgrim has powerful bonuses to two types of EWar and a drone damage bonus to help it survive. It's a little like a baby Ishtar that can cloak.
The Curse is a Combat Recon. Although it is similar to the Pilgrim (main offense is with drones, Nos and TD bonuses) it has a more powerful tank but can't cloak (and remain mobile like the Pilgrim can). Whereas a HAC would meet an enemy and kill it with raw firepower and a strong tank, the Curse (and Pilgrim, but it's more elegant) defeat the enemy with good firepower, but not great (the drones) and a reasonable tank, but mostly with the crippling effects of it's Nos and Tracking Disruptors.
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:52:00 -
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Nanocurse is the best solo pwnmobile out there - beats pilgrim :P
However, in a shieldtank config, a curse is an amazing gang ship.
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Marquis Dean
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:53:00 -
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Why do these fittings threads come in bursts?
There was 3 or 4 the other day, then none, now today we get about 5.
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 00:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Marquis Dean
Why do these fittings threads come in bursts?
There was 3 or 4 the other day, then none, now today we get about 5.
Lack of a proper official search function.
Sadly most newer players are unfamiliar with the wonderful tools Chribba provides free of charge.
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Daemon Farsight
Caldari
Free Traders
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.10 00:14:00 -
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I am sure it is probably mentioned somewhere and someone will flame me viciously for asking, but where is this search function by Chribba so I don't repeat a previous thread again?
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.10 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Daemon Farsight
I am sure it is probably mentioned somewhere and someone will flame me viciously for asking, but where is this search function by Chribba so I don't repeat a previous thread again?
Lolz use the search function you silly noob! 
www.eve-search.com
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Kydreth
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:13:00 -
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I used the search thing but all the topics that came up had to do with outfits. I dont understand the terminology of this game nor the equipment in it very well yet so i was just asking some simple questions in the hopes of simple answers. Thanks for the info sofar 
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Kydreth
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:30:00 -
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And it also makes no diffrence that im Caldari wanting to fly an Amarr ship right? Just how long it takes since i will have to train Amarr frigates?
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Siakel
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
1/ The Pilgrim is a Force Recon, and Force Recons can cloak without being nigh-on immobilised. It can move at full speed and warp while cloaked, making it the 'U-Boat' of the Eve universe. Once you decloak you tend to be committed though, so the Pilgrim has powerful bonuses to two types of EWar and a drone damage bonus to help it survive. It's a little like a baby Ishtar that can cloak.
The Curse is a Combat Recon. Although it is similar to the Pilgrim (main offense is with drones, Nos and TD bonuses) it has a more powerful tank but can't cloak (and remain mobile like the Pilgrim can). Whereas a HAC would meet an enemy and kill it with raw firepower and a strong tank, the Curse (and Pilgrim, but it's more elegant) defeat the enemy with good firepower, but not great (the drones) and a reasonable tank, but mostly with the crippling effects of it's Nos and Tracking Disruptors.
While you were right on most counts, the Pilgrim will have a better tank 90% of the time, only having a weaker tank than shieldtanked Curses, but then it has more EW than the Curse.
The Curse has only 50 more Powergrid, but has to fit an additional two highslots over the Pilgrim (When considering slots, Pilgrim only has three highs to fit, as the Cloak only takes 1 PG to fit at Recon V). The Pilgrim also has an additional lowslot, and more armor HP.
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