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Horza Otho
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinee Edited by: Constantinee on 10/07/2007 01:22:22 This is my current setup on the new beast. works just fine for me.
Vindicator
Electron Blaster Cannon II VOID L Electron Blaster Cannon II VOID L Electron Blaster Cannon II VOID L Electron Blaster Cannon II VOID L Electron Blaster Cannon II VOID L Electron Blaster Cannon II VOID L Electron Blaster Cannon II VOID L Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Gist X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Sensor Booster II Selynne's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster
Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer (1,585) Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer (1,585) Damage Control II Draclira's Modified Adaptive Nano Plating Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Rigs : Anti-Explosive Pump II \ Auxiliary Nano Pump II \ Trimark Armor Pump II \
9129 shield, 10.74/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/47/64 18528 armor, Em/Ex/T/K=88/81/86/86 (slaves) 5062.499999999999 cap, +11.31/s, -153.842/s 1257.0 m/s 1129.345 DPS (with ogre II's added)
with skills i get on guns a refire rate of
3.67 5.32 damage mod (large blaster spec 5 + surg strike 5)
can pretty much tank multiple bs's can tank and kill 2 neut astartes (have)
the ion setups kick ass but with the tightness on cpu electrons are once again the way to go on this ship. hope it helps some of you.
Qfit noobs.
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Sweetpea00
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Posted - 2007.07.12 10:11:00 -
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forgive my ignorance here, but i cant seem to find this ship anywhere thus cant find skill requirments, It sounds amazing and have heard alot of excelent reviews, Can someone please let me know where i can find skill details alternativelt post them here. I have all the gunnery skills for suggested fittings i just need to know ship and ancillary skill requirements. Thanks all.
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Lore Isander
Caldari Paisti
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Posted - 2007.07.12 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sweetpea00 forgive my ignorance here, but i cant seem to find this ship anywhere thus cant find skill requirments, It sounds amazing and have heard alot of excelent reviews, Can someone please let me know where i can find skill details alternativelt post them here. I have all the gunnery skills for suggested fittings i just need to know ship and ancillary skill requirements. Thanks all.
Minmatar BS 1 Gallente BS 1
Or were they lvl 2? Cant confirm (or find out), its dt anyway.
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Ping Me
Aces and Eights Enterprises R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.12 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ping Me on 12/07/2007 11:13:59
Originally by: Sweetpea00 forgive my ignorance here, but i cant seem to find this ship anywhere thus cant find skill requirments, It sounds amazing and have heard alot of excelent reviews, Can someone please let me know where i can find skill details alternativelt post them here. I have all the gunnery skills for suggested fittings i just need to know ship and ancillary skill requirements. Thanks all.
Linky ----- I reject your reality and substitute my own! |
Ozzie Asrail
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.12 11:40:00 -
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Yea that dmg mod is way too high?
Elects*Vindi Bonus*LHybrid*SStrike*LBSpec*5%imp*5%imp 2.1*1.25*1.25*1.15*1.10*1.05*1.05 = 4.5762 dmg mod
Unless I'm missing something? -----
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Monti Reagan
Gallente Black Wolves
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Posted - 2007.07.12 13:35:00 -
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I use my vindicator and navy mega for pvp, hense why i purchased them. its not an amazing setup on each but it still allows me to perform slightly better than your standard mega pilot..
Vindicator
7x best Named Electron Blasters (still training for T2) (faction antimatter) 1x best named Heavy NOS
Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Shadow Serp 100MN MicroWarpdrive Sensor Booster II Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster
2x Domination Large Armour Reps Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 3x T2 Hardners (kin/ex/therm)
Rigs : Anti-Explosive Pump II \ 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Navy Mega
7x best Named Electron Blasters (still training for T2) (faction antimatter) 1x best named Heavy NOS
Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Shadow Serp 100MN MicroWarpdrive Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster
2x Domination Large Armour Reps Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 3x T2 Hardners (kin/ex/therm) 1x Shadow Serp MagStab
Rigs : Anti-Explosive Pump II \ 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump II
T1 Drones (again still training T2) however i tend to use ECM drones
As i said they are used for pvp only so if i loose them i loose them and buy some more
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Constantinee
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:09:00 -
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ok.
you guys are right and right now i feel like a complete tard because i was calculating with ion stats. seeing as the ion vindi was last thing i had in my logs i was going by that. when i calculate the electrons lore is correct and damage mod is way lower. just what you get when you do calculations and forum ***** drunk lol.
btw monti when u get the money get the faction hardners 9even if they are just ts or db) it will save oyu alot more cpu for better weapons.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.10 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Monti Reagan I use my vindicator and navy mega for pvp, hense why i purchased them. its not an amazing setup on each but it still allows me to perform slightly better than your standard mega pilot..
Vindicator
7x best Named Electron Blasters (still training for T2) (faction antimatter) 1x best named Heavy NOS
Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Shadow Serp 100MN MicroWarpdrive Sensor Booster II Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster
2x Domination Large Armour Reps Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 3x T2 Hardners (kin/ex/therm)
Rigs : Anti-Explosive Pump II \ 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Navy Mega
7x best Named Electron Blasters (still training for T2) (faction antimatter) 1x best named Heavy NOS
Domination Warp Disruptor Domination Stasis Webifier Shadow Serp 100MN MicroWarpdrive Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster
2x Domination Large Armour Reps Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 3x T2 Hardners (kin/ex/therm) 1x Shadow Serp MagStab
Rigs : Anti-Explosive Pump II \ 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump II
T1 Drones (again still training T2) however i tend to use ECM drones
As i said they are used for pvp only so if i loose them i loose them and buy some more
dude no offence but u do realise how crappy domination reps are right?
DE
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.10 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Gladiator Jonny on 10/08/2007 22:34:34
Originally by: DarkElf
dude no offence but u do realise how crappy domination reps are right?
DE
Im suprised after using t1 guns, drones, NO Mfs on a vindicator, using electrons on a vindicator, using rigs that cost a stupid amount (not even sure if 3x t2 fit on a faction ship anyhow) that you comment on the reps
That setup makes me die alittle inside.
/me gets the locators out
Edit: Apparently i cant quote somebody without making a **** of my post
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Entity One
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Posted - 2007.08.10 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Entity One on 10/08/2007 23:10:47 When I fly a blasterthron, I prefer ripping my enemy to shreds rather than tanking them forever. Although dual rep setups are tried and true, those of you itching for a bit more firepower might want to try out a setup I've found to be quite effective. Of course, this setup is stupidly expensive, but not much more so than most of the other setups listed here :).
High: Neutron Blaster Cannon II High: Neutron Blaster Cannon II High: Neutron Blaster Cannon II High: Neutron Blaster Cannon II High: Neutron Blaster Cannon II High: Neutron Blaster Cannon II High: Neutron Blaster Cannon II High: Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
Med: Gist X-Type 100 MN Microwarpdrive Med: Domination Warp Disruptor Med: Domination Stasis Webifier Med: True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster Med: Whatever the situation demands, usually I have a ECCM mag in here
Low: Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer Low: Corpum A-Type EANM Low: Corpum A-Type EANM Low: Cormack's Modified ANP Low: Internal Force Field Array Low: Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Low: Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Rig: Aux Nano Pump II Rig: Aux Nano Pump I Rig: Ancillary Current Router I
Average Resist: 14k+ Armor HP with slaves at 79.575% with compensation @5 DPS: 1265 with max skills and 7% rof implant using Caldari Navy AM and 5 Ogre IIs. (1245 with 5% damage implant, more realistic) Armor Repped: 1709 per cycle
Is this superior to a dual rep ion setup? It depends on the situation tbh. In most situations I'd rather have a dual rep ion setup, but I'm sure many Vindi pilots out there come to realize that more often than not, they're only running a single rep anyway. In that case, the extra DPS, range, and volley damage more than makes up for the lack of a second rep. Feel free to comment, but I assure you it works.
I know the annoying nubs who don't actually pvp will come out and yell "OMG use dual Core-Xs with 800 thats FULLY sustainable." I'm sick of hearing that argument. It's NOT fully sustainable because using dual reps with 800s means you're NOT using your guns. Fully sustainable doesn't mean jack if your fate is already sealed because all you're doing is tanking. Anyways, have fun :).
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.10 23:13:00 -
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Seems niceish but,with only 1 rep and no plates, wont be too long till you turn into a squshy pod.
Would work nice for ganks but, seems like a gankathron just with pimp gear. nice just not very *-----*
The *-----* will be filled in when i think of a word. tired atm and vocabulary is borked.
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Entity One
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Posted - 2007.08.11 18:19:00 -
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For a purely solo (and unscouted) pvp setup, I'd agree with you. That dual rep is crucial if you're going to be taking sustained dps from multiple enemy ships by yourself. However, don't forget that DPS and tanking ability are linked. The faster you kill the enemy, the less damage you take.
If I was in a gang, I'd choose my setup over a dual rep ion setup anyday. The extra range, damage, and volley damage on neutrons + the second MFS are FAR more valuable than a second rep in gangs, especially if your gangmates have remote reps. Additionally, in gang vs. gang pvp, if the opposing gang leader is stupid enough to call out a clearly faction tanked vindi as primary, he's a total moron anyway. In addition, the fact that my setup doesn't have a second rep hardly means that my setup's tank is "poor." It still reps 1700+ per cycle with an average resist of close to 80. In other words, it tanks about the same as a fully T2 fitted dual rep Domi, while having an armor buffer thats triple the size and over 13k structure at 58% resists. That's still a monster tank that tanks better than a good 90% of setups flying around in the Eve universe atm. Unless you're diving into solo pvp situations where you don't know what you're up against (which isn't very smart in a lucrative target like a Vindi anyway), that second rep isn't as crucial as you may think.
More importantly, once you're into the stage where you're capped out and now totally reliant on cap boosters for cap (which is probably an extremely familiar experience for any blasterthron pilot), that second rep becomes a non-issue because you can't even run it unless you plan to turn off your guns.
If you insist on using a dual rep setup, I would downgrade the neutrons to ions, swap an MFS and use dual core-x reps, and use both a heavy injector and a medium injector with 400s in that extra midslot. The Cormack's MFS might have to be downgraded to a SS MFS to clear the CPU for the med injector. That would allow you to fully sustain your dual rep tank while injecting enough cap to run the guns.
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Ismern
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.23 19:50:00 -
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Not really sure why I'm bothering to type this here, but here is the single best setup you can make, all costs aside of course:
Vindicator High: - 7x Tuvan's Modified Electron Blaster Cannon (DG Antimatter L) - 1x Heavy Diminishing System Power Drain Medium: - 1x Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive - 1x Vizan's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster (800s) - 1x Domination Stasis Webifier - 1x Domination Warp Disruptor - 1x Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array Low: - 2x Centus A-Type Large Armor Repairer - 1x Damage Control II - 1x Centus A-Type Armor Explosive Hardener - 2x Shaqil's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane - 1x Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Rigs: - 1x Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I - 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump II
You're looking at about 1500 tankable DPS, while dealing out about 675 before you tack on drones. It'd take a small fleet to take you on, and your capacitor is pretty much fully sustainable once you're in range (i.e. MWD turned off).
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Mhorbaine
BAT Empire VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.22 18:45:00 -
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oki been playing about with setups from this thread and customising them for a ship which can take a bit of a beating and deal some back.... now this isnt the most expensive of fits so you could get better if you had deep pockets... and its based on a realistic skill base as opposed to all lvl 5 skills or w/e
Lows: 3x Amarr Navy EANM 1x DCU 1x Amarr Navy LAR 1x CN Co-processor 1x 1600mm Rolled Tugsten
Mids 1x AN Heavy Cap Booster 1x Domi 100mn microwarp 1x Domi webber 1x Domi warp scrammer 1x Mag ECCM
Highs 7x SS Neutron Blasters 1x TS Heavy Nofs
Rigs 2x Ancillary Current Routers 1x Semiconductor Memory Cell
Drones: 5x t2 mediums of personal preference 5x medium ecm drones 5x Sensor Dampening drones (for those targets who like to take the **** and orbit out of range)
Now i kno this isnt a great gank-mobile or tank - its a mix based on my limited skills for fitting (thus why the rigs are aimed at allowing it to have neutrons rather than dmg mod rigs)
resists are: 83.9 em, 73.9 thermal, 73.9 kinetic, 63.8 explosive dps: 517 (2840 with volley fire) using CN antimatter L range - 3.8k optimal, 10k falloff
any thoughts?
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Entity One
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Posted - 2007.10.22 19:33:00 -
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A Vindicator with 500 DPS? I'd have to say that's god awful, won't break the most mediocre of tanks.
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Mhorbaine
BAT Empire VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.22 20:35:00 -
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as i stated before this is based upon my own mediocre skills (which are being improved over time) so dont take my readings of dps etc as the be all n end all of the build - a good example is using your build to the letter i only get 833 dps (-400 on your stated dps)
so bar my crappy skills is there any specific reason why this build is "god aweful"?
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Alley Cat
Gallente DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.11.19 07:11:00 -
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Good mix of Gank and Tank with stability
[1727 | 42] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xNull L] [1727 | 42] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xNull L] [1727 | 42] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xNull L] [1727 | 42] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xNull L] [1727 | 42] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xNull L] [1727 | 42] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xNull L] [1727 | 42] Ion Blaster Cannon II [120xNull L]
[ 1 | 18] Domination Stasis Webifier [1375 | 75] Domination 100MN MicroWarpdrive [1750 | 40] True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster [ 1 | 19] Domination Warp Disruptor [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
[ 1 | 20] Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer [ 1 | 20] Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer [ 1 | 28] Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener [ 1 | 28] Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener [ 1 | 28] Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener [2000 | 46] True Sansha Large Armor Repairer [2000 | 46] True Sansha Large Armor Repairer
[ 50] Anti-Explosive Pump I [ 100] Auxiliary Nano Pump I [ 100] Auxiliary Nano Pump I
15k Armor with my Slave Set.
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Vandamsel
Gallente Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.26 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Caffeine Junkie Edited by: Caffeine Junkie on 15/06/2007 15:39:29 Edited by: Caffeine Junkie on 15/06/2007 15:37:59 Non faction setup (for reasonable ISK)
7x Neutron Blaster Cannon IIs w/Void
Fleeting Scram Fleeting Web Med Cap Booster 100 NM MWD II Target Painter II (or another Web)
2x 1600mm RT Plates 2x MFS II 2x EANM II Damage Control II
5x Ogre II
Algid Hybrid Admin I Hybrid Collision Accel II
with maxed skills: 77 / 52 / 65 /65 Resists 22.1k Armour
1280 dps
EDIT: Typo (x2)
this doesnt fit according to EFT
REPO AND PROUD OF IT
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Kay Han
Caldari Nothing Remains.
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Posted - 2008.02.14 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Kay Han on 14/02/2008 12:10:49 Edited by: Kay Han on 14/02/2008 12:10:01 My current setup:
High: 7x Ion Blaster Cannon II 1x True Sansha Heavy Neut
Med: Core A-type 100MN MWD Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor Domination stasis Web True Sansha Heavy Cap Injector Sensor Booster II
Low: 2x True sansha Large reps 1x Core a-type hardeners (kin, epl, therm) 1x shadow mag stab 1x Internal force field array
rigs: Ancillary Current router I Anti Epxlosive pump II nanobot accelerator II
Drones: 5x orge II
YouŠll need the 'gypsy' KMB-50 imp in order to fit that stuff. Otherwise CPU runs out (currently 708 / 708,13 used)
Thinking about switching the sensor booster for an other webber, but would need a 3% turrent CPU redution imp then.
Originally by: CCP Atropos Personally I think Amarr ships should consume slaves in a similar way that other ships consume ammunition.
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