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Rancur
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:21:00 -
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How feasible would it be to design an "escrow" option to contracts. Basically, an escrow option would allow you to back out of a contract within a small time frame, say 2 or 5 minutes or so. My reason for suggesting this would be to allow players a chance to back out of misleading "scam" contracts. Lots of unscrupulous people setup offer or purchase contracts with fictitious items or prices with intent to deceive. This would protect the unsuspecting party in any deal, allowing them to either check their bank account or verify the item. Almost every player knows someone who accidentally got burned in a scam. Also this would reduce the amount of petitions of angry players who erroneously enter into a misleading contract.
Comments? Suggestions? What would be the pro's and con's to this idea? And has it been suggested before?
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:31:00 -
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As far as I can see the contract system has the amount of information which is needed to check a contract. The last issue that was fixed in this regards was the addition of the 'x 1' when only one unit is sold via the contract. And even that issue wouldn't fool experienced contractors.
That said, anything that makes it more user friendly is gold.
Just beware of the traders that want you to put an item in auction and ask for a low starting price and a then the price as buyout. Because they are never gonna do the buyout.
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Rancur
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Posted - 2007.04.11 21:35:00 -
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My reasoning is to protect the inexperienced or over eager buyer/seller that thinks they've stumbled onto a fantastic deal. Case in point... myself! ;p
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Belkevin
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Posted - 2007.04.12 02:56:00 -
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Not a bad idea. It would probably end most of the scamming out there.
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Gaogan
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Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.04.12 14:38:00 -
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No, it wouldn't because if you are too ignorant or unobservant to notice that a deal that is too good to be true, in fact isn't by looking at the details of the contract, you aren't going to realize it within a few minutes of placing your bid either. If you do, then slow down and don't rush into things before looking them over.
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Rancur
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Posted - 2007.04.12 16:29:00 -
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So Gaogan, you are saying that you DON'T want to help the player who is new to the game or new to the marketing experience, and you are in favor of the players out there who deliberately want to deceive others and congest the market with bogus offers and bids?
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Artu Stargazer
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Posted - 2007.04.13 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Artu Stargazer on 13/04/2007 02:19:45
Welcome to eve. It's a bloody steep learning curve here, more of a cliff even. There are reasons I always look over any particularly juicy looking bargain two to three times before accepting. . . Such as some quarter or so of the population of Jita being scammers. . .
Quite frankly, contracts has enough safe guards on it already, I started off in the days of escrow, where half of everything was scams, and if it wasn't a scam it was in deep 0.0. I still have a bit of faction ammo sitting in a station some 40 jumps into 0.0, it was at least cheap. Ever seen a hunk of carbon advertised as a Charon? I have. Contracts killed the most egregious of these by showing items by name rather than description. If you keep the 'are you sure you want to do this window' popping up every time and read it, you typically come out in one piece.
And yes, I've fallen for the occasional scam as well, god was I tired that night. . . Most expensive T1 frigate BPC ever  . . .
EDIT: Sa***uards (Safe guards) has censorable letters? Wierdest swear filter ever. . .
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Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.04.13 03:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Rancur
So Gaogan, you are saying that you DON'T want to help the player who is new to the game or new to the marketing experience, and you are in favor of the players out there who deliberately want to deceive others and congest the market with bogus offers and bids?
TBH m8... CCP allows and help scammers... they won't punish them and keep adding loop holes in the game to help scammers... to CCP scamming is just another part of EVE-Online
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Magnum Omega
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Posted - 2007.04.13 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Magnum Omega on 13/04/2007 17:23:37
Originally by: Rancur
My reasoning is to protect the inexperienced or over eager buyer/seller that thinks they've stumbled onto a fantastic deal. Case in point... myself! ;p
If they are inexperianced then I suggest about 10 minutes.
EVE is a game of +'s and -'s and that is awsome but if you can scam then there should be a counter action a player can take. Nothing wrong with a counter to something, the game is full of them in every way.
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Renkur
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Posted - 2007.04.13 18:27:00 -
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I wonder how many "misleading contract" petitions get submitted each week? If it is a substantial number then the devs might want to consider a 60 second escrow. Consider it a mini return policy. You get something and it doesn't work, or isn't what you expected, it goes back. No more complaints.
People get excited and sometimes make mistakes. The escrow or "return policy" would be fair to the victims of those players who intentionally mislead or confuse and try to capitalize on others mistakes.
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