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Sean Dillon
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.12 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sean Dillon on 12/04/2007 13:05:26 I am sure more people have this problem.
I am currently living in empire running some lvl 4's. I am very close to reaching -2.0 again. But thats not the point.
The thing is that I dont gain any security status updates from doing MY OWN lvl 4 missions. I ran the righth and of zazimets a couple times now, which clearly should give an update according to eve info not alot but atleast some. But I am not receiving any update, nor from low secure npcing.
Now on the other hand, I ran exactly 2 mission lv 4's to help someone elst out. And for killing his mission bs, bc and cruisers I get sec updates.
This is seriously bugged. I have already petioned it once, had to explain it alot before some Senior GM finally did something (an intervention as its called in my sec history) to get it fixed. A day later I can bait some ore thief and kill him (I think this was related to it as I did nothing elst that day in eve bassicly) and I was not gaining security status again.
Meanwhile I send in a new petition, which hasn't been answered yet, and a bug report also not given an asnwer yet.
I seriously hope this bug will get fixed on a very short term, the sooner the better. And not have to wait months for it.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.04.12 17:54:00 -
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AFAIK, missions don't give security rating updates since... a few years ago? Try belt rats.
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Sean Dillon
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.12 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sean Dillon on 12/04/2007 19:18:54 Then why do i get those from doing someone elsts missions? And why do all mission runners have like 5.0 standings?
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TomParad0x
Caldari The Cookies
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Posted - 2007.04.12 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur AFAIK, missions don't give security rating updates since... a few years ago? Try belt rats.
This is however incorrect, missions do not directly give you security status gain ( As in, in the form of a reward ), however on a lv4 mission you should get security status off of the rats - I know I did ( However I have not run level 4s since before the 1.4 patch ). I myself know I got atleast +0.4 sec status out of missions.
I will go on SiSi and see if I get a sec status gain as I do not have a ship to run lv4s in on TQ currently.
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necronarcosis
Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2007.04.13 10:04:00 -
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mission rats DO give a status gain normaly, however its a bit muffed atm, ie you get nothing for 3 hours then maybee a .17 increase then nothing then same again.
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Lonewolfnight
Gallente Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.13 14:28:00 -
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I've had petitions in now since patch day march 17th. I've run belts, complex's and missions without a single sec gain. I've had multiple replies from GM's. The responses have been very disappointing. It seems like they don't even look into the matter. One of my most recent replies has said they are aware of an issue and please file a bug report.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.04.13 16:06:00 -
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I used to do missions a year ago. I did them all the way from level 1 to level 3 missions and ran about fifty of those. I didn't gain any security status. I moved to 0.0 and did a month of ratting and maxed out my sec status.
From what I recall, missions never used to give you sec. When did that change?
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Daerkannon Shimmerscale
Gallente Paxton Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.13 16:29:00 -
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I don't have an answer for the OP, unfortunately. There are a few people around my area of space with the same problem. Kinda sucks since they are very active anti-pirates, yet they're stuck in low sec.
However on the issue of belt rats vs. missions rats. I don't think it's a question of missions not giving you sec status gain, but rather where you fight the rats. Since I started doing missions in low sec (0.1) my sec status has steadily gone up much more quickly than when I was doing missions in 0.6 and above space. I very rarely belt rat and I did a lot of missions before moving to low sec with a minimal effect on my sec rating. --- Honest officer, the dwarf was on fire when I got here! Can't find a mechanical engineering agent? Need a non-Caldari Navy agent? http://www.eve-agents.com/ for all your agent needs! |
Maar T'Kmel
Minmatar United Federation of Planets FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.13 16:35:00 -
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Are we talking everyday missions, or storyline missions. Storyline missions give you standings boost.
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Ravenowl
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Posted - 2007.04.13 23:53:00 -
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yes missions give sec status. The way it works is they do it based on what you killed in the last 15 minutes. You should ask your ceo to look at your sec status. As its actually like this 0.479. Now until my example hits 0.500 its going to show 0.4. Another fact that is, they stop giving you sec status increases after awhile. The answer to that is get better rats to kill. That might be why your getting sec status increases with your buddies rats.
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xh'duality
Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.14 07:55:00 -
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Edited by: xh''duality on 14/04/2007 07:52:25 After killing some rats u go to ur character sheet in there u go to security status and u can see how much u relay gained. U dont get from every rats a + to security. say u kill a bs and say it gives u 0.2 towards ya u wont get any more for 15 min's. every 15 mins u get a nother + towards ya if it was a frig cruiser or what ever. There was a threat about it aswell cant remeber were it was. But thats why it takes month for ur seurity stats to go up. oh and its counted in percent. so ya have to kill like about say 5 bs's to gaina point.
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MOS DEF
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.14 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: MOS DEF on 14/04/2007 08:36:58 It's annoying. Even more annoying are the incompetent GMs that tell you to go kill rats instead of mission rats when you told em in your petition that you killed all sorts of 0.0 belt rats allready.
Then the GM replied againa nd told me he tried something new. Now i got GM intervention -2.625% security status - lost some more and still can#t gain sec rating.
Many people get this bug btw. Countless in my corp.
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Sean Dillon
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.14 14:14:00 -
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Every battleship you kill, with a bounty so no drones, every 15 minutes should give you an update in your character sheet.
The problem with me was I wouldn't get it any update for killing npc's in missions accepted by me. But would in someone elst mission. Also no sec gain for killing cruisers in 0.4
The first time i got an intervention with a GM doing -18% and it actually worked for 1-2 days, I had no real sec loss. The second intervention was 2 days ago again -18% I think, again no actual drop in sec status, and would get updates again. Still receiving at the moment.
I belive the problem might be related with pirating, as you lose sec rating from agressing someone and ship killig it in both low are high secure and lossing security rating for it. You will get a security drop, but somehow it will mess up on the server and not actually get it dropped are server goes bogus. Its only a thought though.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.14 23:34:00 -
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/Same. For the last 3 days, since I hit sec status 4.1, my log records NO ENTRIES. 0.0 ratting, Missioning either one.
I Filed a petition, Senior GM told me something like: Some rats wont give you any sec status at all, and the higher you are, the longer it takes...
WTF Ever...IT doesnt record ANY changes.
Will refile tonight, and bug report it. Will do that every day till I get a real answer.
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.15 21:59:00 -
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Had this problem for a while. shot different rats of different races/bounties and still no luck, got criminal countdown to see if this would fix it but it didnt.
funny thing is, i did get one sec gain between long periods of none :S. Its problematic when im -2.5 atm and need to get to high sec :/
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Rooker on 18/04/2007 21:02:57 Now that I'm looking, I've had no sec increase since March 3, despite killing around half a billion worth of 0.0 rats, mission rats and some little hi sec belt rats since then.
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Ravenowl
Caldari Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:17:00 -
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go for capital sized rats?
here is the duh answer... after awhile of popping rats you will start to gain less and less from them until you get to the point where your not gaining.
the problem with it.. they dont spawn much.. and are a bit of a challenge to pop a npc capital.
my question is .. why do you care about your sec status if your above say 3.0
for the pirates that have -whatever.. its not actually that hard to get to 0.0 well not for the majority of it. Might take a couple of weeks.. hmm there seems to be another formula used tho.. maybe thats what is bugged?
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Pindleskin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.19 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenowl go for capital sized rats?
here is the duh answer... after awhile of popping rats you will start to gain less and less from them until you get to the point where your not gaining.
the problem with it.. they dont spawn much.. and are a bit of a challenge to pop a npc capital.
my question is .. why do you care about your sec status if your above say 3.0
for the pirates that have -whatever.. its not actually that hard to get to 0.0 well not for the majority of it. Might take a couple of weeks.. hmm there seems to be another formula used tho.. maybe thats what is bugged?
You misunderstand, people, like me, are getting NO sec status gain for killing ANY SORT of belt rats etc. I am -8.9 so should still see sec status gain but I am getting nothing at all. Well except GM's telling me to go hunt in lower sec space...
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Sean Dillon
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.21 20:50:00 -
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When in the nine hells will this get fixed?
Its the third time now I have to bugg a GM to fix this
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.22 11:02:00 -
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Well if its a bug, filing a petition wont help much as I understand it.
It would be helpfull if someone could post how it is supposed to work, so we can compare with how it actually works. Or doesn't work.
In my case I have stopped getting sec increases for complex and mission runs. But I still get sec increase for ratting in belts, even in high sec.
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Thabela
Minmatar Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.12 01:32:00 -
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I have the same problem.
I have killed several 3xbattleship spawns in 0.0, without getting any security status increases at all. The last increase I got was at 18th April, after that - nothing.
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Bear grrr
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Posted - 2007.05.14 15:25:00 -
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Im not getting sec gains from any belt rats , but i am taking sec hits for PVPing.
Come on devs anwser my petition its been well over a week !
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LittleTerror
Caldari kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.05.14 17:35:00 -
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You do gain sec from mission rats but last time I did missions we found there was a bug with destroying structures, if you destroy a structure it will bug your sec status untill you dock and relog.
Its been reported in the past but never gets fixed
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Voidster
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Posted - 2007.05.20 13:31:00 -
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Who do we have to blow to get this fixed?
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stoneyharrie2
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Posted - 2007.05.20 16:44:00 -
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i didnt got security last few days too
been doing some ratting and missioning last security gain i got was at may 18 13,36 eve time
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