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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:11:00 -
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With Supers, hot drops and all that I don't think simply removing local would work ideally... but something more "halfway" towards a no-local type of environment. (Yes, I'm biased towards one particular idea...)
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:12:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:Because no one wants this except a few whiney-fail-wanna-be-pvpers who endlessly complain that CCP makes Eve to easy while ignoring that which they are whining for is in itself Eve on easy mode.
By the way Ice, the ones that are whining the most are the ones that can see a cloaked vessel in local so they shut down null sec for a week while they complain on the forums.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.12.27 13:55:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:The problem with changing local is, the guys in null who PVP won't care much as they're going to/from a system with a specific activity in mind, and they're prepared for PVP. What the change would affect the most, however, is those who aren't in space in null to PVP, but to make isk for whatever reason (pay for more PVP ships, or just to hoard ISK).
There should be an inherent risk with regards to null space as there is in all Eve, should there not?
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.12.27 14:20:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:There should be an inherent risk with regards to null space as there is in all Eve, should there not? So you mean I can just park any ship anywhere in a system, and it'll never get ganked? And here I thought we had to be vigilant to avoid ganks out in nullsec. Shucks, I've been misled.
Nice dodge.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:36:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:There should be an inherent risk with regards to null space as there is in all Eve, should there not? So you mean I can just park any ship anywhere in a system, and it'll never get ganked? And here I thought we had to be vigilant to avoid ganks out in nullsec. Shucks, I've been misled. Nice dodge. You're the one saying it's perfectly safe. If I can park any ship (even a velator) in any system in, say, deklein, without a cloak module fitted, and expect to come back to that ship in 10 hours time, then I'll concede that it's perfectly safe. Or would you like to qualify your definition of perfectly safe?
You'll have to link to me where I used "perfectly". It's certainly already extremely low risk due primarily to local giving away everyone's presence the moment they jump into a system. Supporting concepts such as probes that can detect cloaked vessels. etc. adds even greater safety to the system, which seems to be the opposite of what null sec should be.
Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
795
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Posted - 2011.12.27 16:39:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Making wormholes in this test region 'stable' solves this, after mapping out the location of non-collapsible entry points both attacker and defender in whs can see the fun of no-local + static routes. All they'd need is frigs to pop up and cyno stuff in and we're set for the null no-local test.
I mean, here you guys were just crowing about what a great idea this was.
Ugh... what a horrble idea. Stable wormholes would really screw wormhole living up big time. One aspect that's critically important to wormhole survival is the changing static. Statics are often used for farming, for finding routes out to empire, etc. Having a stable wormhole would mean someone along the chain could potentially shut down all holes that are above the chain by denying them access to ice fuels.
Wormholes would be the absolute worst place to test something of this nature.
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