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Jita Cozy
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.13 19:27:47 -
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My POS was attacked in high sec. I need to get my stuff out of there. Its in reinforced mode so I can't take anything out. I wonder if I can just show up just before the timer hits zero and take everything out fast and refuel calthrates and warp out. I forgot to set the attack option so it was easy for them. I'm sure they will show up thou and I have nobody to help me defend. Can they warp scramble me if I'm inside the bubble? Is there anything they could do to prevent me from getting in, getting my stuff out and warping out? Whats the best course of action I can take? |
Neuntausend
Rens Nursing Home
1344
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Posted - 2017.01.13 19:47:05 -
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In Highsec, you can warp in and out and and move around in the POS forcefield, and they can't do anything about it. They will most certainly mock you for it, but that's about it. What they can do is check where you are actually warping to/from, and try to catch you there or camp you in. |
Amanda Creire-Geng
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2017.01.13 19:58:21 -
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At this point you're pretty much screwed. A control tower enters reinforced mode once the shields drop down to 25%, and once the reinforcement ends, you need to restore the shields to at least 50% to regain control of basic functions like emptying and unanchoring your POS modules. Since the tower has already been reinforced, your only option is fielding a fleet that can repel the attackers, otherwise they'll easily destroy the tower and loot the modules. |
Scipio Artelius
Savage Moon Society
46595
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Posted - 2017.01.13 20:06:05 -
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Amanda Creire-Geng wrote:At this point you're pretty much screwed. A control tower enters reinforced mode once the shields drop down to 25%, and once the reinforcement ends, you need to restore the shields to at least 50% to regain control of basic functions like emptying and unanchoring your POS modules. Since the tower has already been reinforced, your only option is fielding a fleet that can repel the attackers, otherwise they'll easily destroy the tower and loot the modules.
This. You can't add more clathrates, etc. while reinforced.
At this point, you need to make a fight/flight decision. Find a way to defend, or lose it all.
If you decide it's worth fighting for, then quickly talk to some Mercs if you have no other in game friends, and organise a defence.
Otherwise the only hope is that the attackers think the timer is bad and they choose not to turn up, in which case you'll be able to rep the shields, or let them regen (which takes a while to get out of reinforced). |
Amanda Creire-Geng
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2017.01.13 20:14:52 -
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One thing I forgot to mention, since you implied that POS guns would have successfully protected the POS if you had configured it right: Any turrets that don't use CPU and haven't been incapacitated will still be active when the reinforcement timer ends. Not sure if anchoring additional turrets at this stage is possible, but if you got a few and the attacking force was something like a few AFK-Oracles, that may be enough to keep them at bay while you rep the shields with a logistics ship. |
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
1791
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Posted - 2017.01.13 20:29:21 -
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If the stuff in it is of high value, hire some mercs to defend it while it gets repped up (field as many logistics ships as you can).
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
438
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:04:10 -
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The only way they could have shot it in the first place was by war decing you. Why did you not empty the valuables once that happened? Some people even go as far as dismantling the POS under war conditions before the war becomes active. Just depends on how much value they put on the tower. But usually the contents can be worth more. |
Amanda Creire-Geng
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:06:18 -
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War-decs only have a 24-hour notice, easy to miss if you don't log in religiously every day. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
438
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:14:27 -
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Who is attacking you, I will infiltrate them for you with an alt. And join in on the pinata fun...  |
Gulboy
Mercurial Purpose
Urukian Collective
49
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Posted - 2017.01.13 21:30:38 -
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You can try to hire mercenaries to defend your POS.
Check the forums for mercenary corporations I guess? |
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Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
The-Culture
242
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Posted - 2017.01.13 22:55:26 -
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Do some research on who has war decced you.
If it's one man and a bunch of his alts griefing what they think are soft targets then anchor and online some guns on the POS (so long as they don't use CPU). Get some alts into system and when the POS comes out of reinforce log them all on in system. The majority of these guys are cowards looking for easy frags and so won't even show up if they think there maybe a fight. Start to rep up the POS and once it's above 50 per cent shields take it down.
If it's a decent corporation with some PvP pedigree then either get friends to help you defend it or just write it off as a loss. |
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
1040
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Posted - 2017.01.13 23:42:58 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:The only way they could have shot it in the first place was by war decing you. Why did you not empty the valuables once that happened? Some people even go as far as dismantling the POS under war conditions before the war becomes active. Just depends on how much value they put on the tower. But usually the contents can be worth more.
Why does anyone store anything of value in a POS ever? train an alt to a basic hauler, orca or DST, etc. and log them off at the POS with anything of value stored in it.
Also don't forget (unless its changed recently) you can still access ship arrays when the POS is reinforced just not item storage.
EDIT: Ideally haul/log off anything on an NPC corp character as well. |
Jita Cozy
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.01.14 00:25:38 -
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Rroff wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:The only way they could have shot it in the first place was by war decing you. Why did you not empty the valuables once that happened? Some people even go as far as dismantling the POS under war conditions before the war becomes active. Just depends on how much value they put on the tower. But usually the contents can be worth more. Why does anyone store anything of value in a POS ever? train an alt to a basic hauler, orca or DST, etc. and log them off at the POS with anything of value stored in it. Also don't forget (unless its changed recently) you can still access ship arrays when the POS is reinforced just not item storage. EDIT: Ideally haul/log off anything on an NPC corp character as well.
I don't understand your suggestion. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
438
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Posted - 2017.01.14 01:08:44 -
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Jita Cozy wrote:Rroff wrote:Tuttomenui II wrote:The only way they could have shot it in the first place was by war decing you. Why did you not empty the valuables once that happened? Some people even go as far as dismantling the POS under war conditions before the war becomes active. Just depends on how much value they put on the tower. But usually the contents can be worth more. Why does anyone store anything of value in a POS ever? train an alt to a basic hauler, orca or DST, etc. and log them off at the POS with anything of value stored in it. Also don't forget (unless its changed recently) you can still access ship arrays when the POS is reinforced just not item storage. EDIT: Ideally haul/log off anything on an NPC corp character as well. I don't understand your suggestion.
Both our comments are mostly only useful for giving you knowledge for the future (aside from the bit about ships in an array). If there is a station in the system you have the pos using it for storage is kind of a mistake. What are you using the pos for exactly? I used one for research and I only had the stuff I was currently working on at the pos, and I did all the rest that could be done remotely remotely from a station (like making copies).
I had a partner with my pos and we went a bit overboard with its defense. My partner was a bit paranoid. I built a large shadow tower and my partner got a bunch of faction mods for weapons and stuff. I gifted him the tower and the labs I had purchased later when I decided to take a break from eve. Not long later he had to take it down because of a war dec. Nowadays you could put up an unfitted citadel for what we had invested in our pos.
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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
1040
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Posted - 2017.01.14 01:15:41 -
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The only faction POS mods I ever bothered with was the webs as the most valuable one pretty much immobilized most ships so you could alpha through them with XL guns :D |
Abyss Azizora
DODGING
189
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Posted - 2017.01.14 01:42:54 -
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Rroff wrote:The only faction POS mods I ever bothered with was the webs as the most valuable one pretty much immobilized most ships so you could alpha through them with XL guns :D
If I recall the faction disruptors worked damn well too, as they had some absurdly long range like 400+km. And the faction neuts were great for killing spider tanking BS. (This was many years ago though, before T3 cruisers became the immortal overpowered-as-**** gods of highsec.) |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2779
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Posted - 2017.01.14 09:42:10 -
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Jita Cozy wrote:My POS was attacked in high sec. I need to get my stuff out of there. Its in reinforced mode so I can't take anything out. I wonder if I can just show up just before the timer hits zero and take everything out fast and refuel calthrates and warp out. I forgot to set the attack option so it was easy for them. I'm sure they will show up thou and I have nobody to help me defend. Can they warp scramble me if I'm inside the bubble? Is there anything they could do to prevent me from getting in, getting my stuff out and warping out? Whats the best course of action I can take?
Looks like you are about to learn a typical hard Eve lesson.
First of all when you come out of reinforced you can only put Stront in once the shield is back up to 50%. I am a bit hazy about what you can do with a POS when it comes out of RFand whether you can pull stuff out. I would suggest that you set up a character outside the corp, apply a POS password and then you can move stuff out with that preventing them camping you into a station. Note that you have to re-do the password by left clikcing in the centre of your HUD every time you hava a session change.
One trick is to setup new guns and warp disruptors etc. ready to online when the POS comes out of RF, then you can have at least a bit of fun blapping them.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1393
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Posted - 2017.01.14 09:51:57 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jita Cozy wrote:My POS was attacked in high sec. I need to get my stuff out of there. Its in reinforced mode so I can't take anything out. I wonder if I can just show up just before the timer hits zero and take everything out fast and refuel calthrates and warp out. I forgot to set the attack option so it was easy for them. I'm sure they will show up thou and I have nobody to help me defend. Can they warp scramble me if I'm inside the bubble? Is there anything they could do to prevent me from getting in, getting my stuff out and warping out? Whats the best course of action I can take? Looks like you are about to learn a typical hard Eve lesson. First of all when you come out of reinforced you can only put Stront in once the shield is back up to 50%. I am a bit hazy about what you can do with a POS when it comes out of RFand whether you can pull stuff out. I would suggest that you set up a character outside the corp, apply a POS password and then you can move stuff out with that preventing them camping you into a station. Note that you have to re-do the password by left clikcing in the centre of your HUD every time you hava a session change. One trick is to setup new guns and warp disruptors etc. ready to online when the POS comes out of RF, then you can have at least a bit of fun blapping them.
What'd you do? Read all the other posts and just repeat bits and pieces already stated.
Plagerism isn't a very good quality. At least have the decency to credit where you got your responses from.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
1040
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Posted - 2017.01.14 17:00:39 -
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Abyss Azizora wrote:Rroff wrote:The only faction POS mods I ever bothered with was the webs as the most valuable one pretty much immobilized most ships so you could alpha through them with XL guns :D If I recall the faction disruptors worked damn well too, as they had some absurdly long range like 400+km. And the faction neuts were great for killing spider tanking BS. (This was many years ago though, before T3 cruisers became the immortal overpowered-as-**** gods of highsec.)
Sadly the neuts used a ton of fitting on the POS - was always worth leaving 1-2 on (outside of highsec) though as it meant someone couldn't easily drop a single dread in and defang the POS solo. |
Adeline Lachance
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2017.01.15 17:30:02 -
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Dracvlad wrote: I would suggest that you set up a character outside the corp, apply a POS password and then you can move stuff out with that preventing them camping you into a station. Note that you have to re-do the password by left clicking in the centre of your HUD every time you hava a session change.
This was news to me that I did not see previously and I appreciate your posting it. Thank you.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
960
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Posted - 2017.01.16 01:50:29 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:What'd you do? Read all the other posts and just repeat bits and pieces already stated.
Plaigerism isn't a very good quality. At least have the decency to credit where you got your responses from.
Have you read anything he's written before? Careful though, if you call him out on his BS he will block you so that he wins the forums.
OP, my #1 suggestion is to calmly and without being upset start a conversation with one of the officers of the corp that wardecced you. Ask what you did wrong, what you could have done better and why they tried to take down your POS in the first place. 99% of people in the game are more than happy to give that advice, assuming you take the loss in stride and honestly want to learn.
You'll learn more about the game by asking those questions from people who kill you than anything else you can do. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2781
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Posted - 2017.01.16 06:43:14 -
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Adeline Lachance wrote:Dracvlad wrote: I would suggest that you set up a character outside the corp, apply a POS password and then you can move stuff out with that preventing them camping you into a station. Note that you have to re-do the password by left clicking in the centre of your HUD every time you hava a session change. This was news to me that I did not see previously and I appreciate your posting it. Thank you.
That character can just move stuff to and from the POS without being stopped by the war deckers, a character with access to the POS will have to take the stuff out of the POS structures of course. If you only have one account you can drop cans inside the POS, at least that used to be the case, can't see any reason that may have changed.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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Major Trant
Mass Collapse
It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
1570
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Posted - 2017.01.16 11:06:57 -
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Dracvlad wrote:...Note that you have to re-do the password by left clicking in the centre of your HUD every time you hava a session change...
This is no longer true, they changed it so that your client remembers the last password typed in, persists even through different log in sessions.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
2781
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Posted - 2017.01.16 11:59:38 -
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Major Trant wrote:Dracvlad wrote:...Note that you have to re-do the password by left clicking in the centre of your HUD every time you hava a session change... This is no longer true, they changed it so that your client remembers the last password typed in, persists even through different log in sessions.
Glad to hear that, was a pain in the butt, how are you by the way?
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein
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