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Jason Arbitor
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Posted - 2007.04.18 12:45:00 -
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Okay a little back story here, I was coming out of a station in Oursaulet(sp?) and there was a lone drake battle cruiser just tearing the Fed navy into small pieces of so much space junk. It was truely am impressive sight to behold as the largest ship the Fed navy threw at him was a frigate.
Now I sat there and began to think if a mryn full fitted out for armor tanking could stand against the firepower shown from this drake?
Also why was it he was able to just sit there for over 5 minutes blowning the fed navy to pieces? I thought they were some sort of all powerful ships that no one tangled with?
I did not stay around to watch the results but when I returned he was gone and peace was restored.
Have a nice day.
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Arx Impera
Amarr
Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.04.18 12:56:00 -
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He was probably hitting the Gallente convoys, not random stuff. CONCORD doesnt intervene in some cases. Not in the feel of explaining all the mechanics 
In any case, a Drake vs a Myrmidon... Yes, myrmidon can tank a Drake fine heh. Depends on fittings, but in general it will fine.
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Horus Dark
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Posted - 2007.04.18 12:58:00 -
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myrm > all bc in one on one
Sadly the story with almost all gallentre ships.
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WYLEE C0Y0TE
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:04:00 -
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Subject has been debated nearly to death.....
Here
 Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif
If it's personal, it's because of you.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: NoNah on 18/04/2007 13:00:38
Nevermind.
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WredStorm
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.04.18 16:35:00 -
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At worst, the Myrmidon can withstand anything the Drake can throw at him and end up in a Mexican standoff if the Drake manages to destroy the Myrmidon's drones. At best, the Myrmidon rips the Drake a new one and the last thing heard from the lips of the Drake's pilot is, "nerrrrfff Myrrrrrm...."
Check my signature for a link to a discussion about passive shield tanking Myrmidons. With such a setup, no Drake could get through the Myrmidon's tank.
Wred
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Aries Acheron
The Valour
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Posted - 2007.04.18 16:38:00 -
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A Drake generally tanks a little better than a Myrmidon.
The Myrmidon massively outdamages, out-EWs, out-lasts the Drake.
So yes, a Myrm with comparable fittings more or less can always take out a drake, since heavy missile DPS is really bad compared to the guns, EW and drones of a Myrm.
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:43:00 -
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Standard nos-myrm vs. passive-drake ends in a draw.
The Drake just sits there and tanks without breaking a sweat, but the Myrm will drain the Drake's cap to the point where it can't keep the Myrm warp scrambled.
Myrm can't tank a Drake forever, but a Drake can tank a Myrm forever.
Use a Drake for baiting. A Myrm for pwning.
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WredStorm
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kruel
Standard nos-myrm vs. passive-drake ends in a draw.
The Drake just sits there and tanks without breaking a sweat, but the Myrm will drain the Drake's cap to the point where it can't keep the Myrm warp scrambled.
Myrm can't tank a Drake forever, but a Drake can tank a Myrm forever.
Use a Drake for baiting. A Myrm for pwning.
A Myrm can't tank a Drake forever? I beg to differ. Follow the link in my sig to a passive shield setup for a Myrm that can handle 1, and possibly 2, Drakes without breaking a sweat. If the Drakes fail to target and destroy the Myrmidon's drones then the Drake dies... its tank is not strong enough to withstand ~475 DPS from drones and potentially another 100+ DPS if the Myrmidon puts ACs in its highs instead of NOS.
Wred
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Caldari Online
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:14:00 -
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drake can instapop the myrm drones, so a drake should win
id say drake is a better gang ship [drones take too long to get to target and then the next target ect and they can be killed] but the myrm is a better solo or extreamly small gang ship
drake is a good t1 cruiser killer, 2/3volleys pops most, then onto the next one ect
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kruel on 18/04/2007 18:14:17
Originally by: WredStorm
stuff
I see I should've bolded the standard in "Standard sos-myrm". 
Not many people pvp with a passive shield tanked Myrmidon wielding ACs. Though it definitely has it's plusses if someone else is taking care of the EW.
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Pottsey
Gallente
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 18/04/2007 18:18:27
ôMyrm can't tank a Drake forever, but a Drake can tank a Myrm forever.ö
Not true A Myrm can tank a Drake forever with ease. Both ships can hit strong enough tanks that they cannot kill each other. My Myrm has over 800dps on the lowest resistance way more then a Drake deals out. Then again who does 1v1 anymore out side of freindly match's? Eveything these days seems to be gangs.
EDIT: in my experience I could well be in the wrong area of space where 1v1Æs take place.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |
Aries Acheron
The Valour
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Posted - 2007.04.18 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kruel
Standard nos-myrm vs. passive-drake ends in a draw.
The Drake just sits there and tanks without breaking a sweat, but the Myrm will drain the Drake's cap to the point where it can't keep the Myrm warp scrambled.
Myrm can't tank a Drake forever, but a Drake can tank a Myrm forever.
Use a Drake for baiting. A Myrm for pwning.
NOS-Myrm isn't nearly as effective as Nos-Domi. May as well go for the bigger ship, since fitting's a crunch.
Use rails, blasters or ACs. With actual weapons, you have easilly enough DPS to crunch a passive drake with medium II drones or Heavies.
Anyway, you can close to point blank safely and scooping is possible. Drones do not insta--pop to heavy missiles.
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xenodia
Gallente
RONA Corporation
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Arbitor
Okay a little back story here, I was coming out of a station in Oursaulet(sp?) and there was a lone drake battle cruiser just tearing the Fed navy into small pieces of so much space junk. It was truely am impressive sight to behold as the largest ship the Fed navy threw at him was a frigate.
Now I sat there and began to think if a mryn full fitted out for armor tanking could stand against the firepower shown from this drake?
Also why was it he was able to just sit there for over 5 minutes blowning the fed navy to pieces? I thought they were some sort of all powerful ships that no one tangled with?
I did not stay around to watch the results but when I returned he was gone and peace was restored.
Have a nice day.
The fact that it was just gallente navy hitting him and not concord indicates he was just hitting convoys or otherwise got his standings fubared enough with the gallente that they came after him. And if all they threw at him was frigates, yes a drake could tank that forever.
As to drake vs myrmidon, myrmidon has way more DPS, but drake has a stronger tank. Ultimately it would come down to fittings. Its entirely possible that such a fight would end up as a stalemate, with neither able to kill the other (especially if the myrmidon was nos fitted).
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