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Dalanoria
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dalanoria on 18/04/2007 18:27:43 The best and cheapest ship with my skills is arbitrator just because i have amarr cruiser V...
best I can come up with is 220.983 dps with a cheap fit ( 3 sentry drones, 2 heavy pulse, 1 rocket launcher). Kills a stock retriever in 14 seconds....But is that enough time b4 im concorded ?
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Dalanoria
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:38:00 -
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and um, yah theres not realy a point to it other then YAAR..
I actualy made 8 mill off 2 macro miners in amarr while dodging pvtr's...
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Rashi Nerha
Gallente The Devil's Rejects
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:45:00 -
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I can take down a retriever faster than that with a dessie in t1 fit.
Anyways, i think concord in 1.0 is near instant, so i doubt you can make it. |

jimmyjam
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:52:00 -
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Get a bunch of your fiends together and suicide a good target worth takeing the sec hit for.
Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, |

Dalanoria
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rashi Nerha I can take down a retriever faster than that with a dessie in t1 fit.
Anyways, i think concord in 1.0 is near instant, so i doubt you can make it.
hrm, messing around with quickfit, i set gunz to max skill on a dessie and only came up with 68.519 dps vs a retriever...
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Nymos
Haiduken Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria
Originally by: Rashi Nerha I can take down a retriever faster than that with a dessie in t1 fit.
Anyways, i think concord in 1.0 is near instant, so i doubt you can make it.
hrm, messing around with quickfit, i set gunz to max skill on a dessie and only came up with 68.519 dps vs a retriever...
it's the alpha that counts. you don't need dps if you get instapopped in .3 seconds --
Every time a carebear dies an angel gets their wings (murder one) |

lofty29
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nymos
Originally by: Dalanoria
Originally by: Rashi Nerha I can take down a retriever faster than that with a dessie in t1 fit.
Anyways, i think concord in 1.0 is near instant, so i doubt you can make it.
hrm, messing around with quickfit, i set gunz to max skill on a dessie and only came up with 68.519 dps vs a retriever...
it's the alpha that counts. you don't need dps if you get instapopped in .3 seconds
Neutron catalyst w/ magstabs is about 350dps with a 1.1k alpha  ---
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Ast3r0iD
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:19:00 -
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you can do it if you fit a full rack of large shield extenders and a plate in lows. gives you enough time for 3 vollys which is a dead barge or unhardened indy.
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warpod
Amarr Pact Of Honour United Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.19 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 18/04/2007 18:27:43 The best and cheapest ship with my skills is arbitrator just because i have amarr cruiser V...
best I can come up with is 220.983 dps with a cheap fit ( 3 sentry drones, 2 heavy pulse, 1 rocket launcher). Kills a stock retriever in 14 seconds....But is that enough time b4 im concorded ?
You know, you can have 5 sentry drones with one additional trip to station.
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Ladyah Liandri
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.04.19 10:20:00 -
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Recently I ran several tests with the following setup:
Vexor
with 4 Heavy Neutron Blasters T1 and Anti-Matter, 1 Warp Scrambler, 2 Magnetic Field Stabilizers and 3 Ogre T1. Nothing else.
First I killed a Retriever in a 0.8 system without any problem. The bardge was almost in structure when Concord jumped in to kill ... my drones. Bardge went poof before Concord started hammering me.
This was promising.
So I tried the same setup on a Covetor. Same thing - pew pew poof paddaboom.
I have all relevant skills at least on IV.
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Kher'Aleer
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.19 12:14:00 -
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Concord response time is 15 sec in 0.7 and 5 sec in 0.9. Never tried in a 1.0 though.
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Dalanoria
Team Americas Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.20 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: warpod
Originally by: Dalanoria Edited by: Dalanoria on 18/04/2007 18:27:43 The best and cheapest ship with my skills is arbitrator just because i have amarr cruiser V...
best I can come up with is 220.983 dps with a cheap fit ( 3 sentry drones, 2 heavy pulse, 1 rocket launcher). Kills a stock retriever in 14 seconds....But is that enough time b4 im concorded ?
You know, you can have 5 sentry drones with one additional trip to station.
Nice, I didnt even think of that....
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grapfter
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Nymos
Originally by: Dalanoria
Originally by: Rashi Nerha I can take down a retriever faster than that with a dessie in t1 fit.
Anyways, i think concord in 1.0 is near instant, so i doubt you can make it.
hrm, messing around with quickfit, i set gunz to max skill on a dessie and only came up with 68.519 dps vs a retriever...
it's the alpha that counts. you don't need dps if you get instapopped in .3 seconds
Neutron catalyst w/ magstabs is about 350dps with a 1.1k alpha 
This man speaks the truth. Many retriever wrecks are proof of that :)
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Rashi Nerha
Gallente The Devil's Rejects
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:46:00 -
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Silly alt  |

Jimmy Buffett
MARGARITAVILLE
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:11:00 -
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they got me. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/mastertuna/EVEONLINEPICTURE.jpg |

Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:18:00 -
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careful with sec status, or odd things will happen
Like This
sorry just looked for a way to paste that image ------
Relaxed corp recruiting |

Zirth
Caldari Dragonian Freelancers CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:48:00 -
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How's the response time in 0.5 or 0.6? I have played since 2004 but never really noticed concord waiting 15 seconds before jumping in, they ususally just start raping right away. Though I haven't really done alot of suicide pvp in highsec at all. Is it really true concord will actually wait 15-20seconds in say 0.6 before attacking?
Apart from that, how much do hp and resists matter against concord? Will it buy you a few extra seconds?
Last, I've tried a few smartbomb setups in the past, don't they work better? Especially in 1.0 where I figure dps won't matter, but the alpha strike is all there's to it. Especially the 6-8x 300dmg smartbombs on the cheapest BS fully insured and the rest plates/extenders/resists/reactors/power diags.
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Maverick McDougel
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.22 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zirth How's the response time in 0.5 or 0.6? I have played since 2004 but never really noticed concord waiting 15 seconds before jumping in, they ususally just start raping right away. Though I haven't really done alot of suicide pvp in highsec at all. Is it really true concord will actually wait 15-20seconds in say 0.6 before attacking?
Apart from that, how much do hp and resists matter against concord? Will it buy you a few extra seconds?
Last, I've tried a few smartbomb setups in the past, don't they work better? Especially in 1.0 where I figure dps won't matter, but the alpha strike is all there's to it. Especially the 6-8x 300dmg smartbombs on the cheapest BS fully insured and the rest plates/extenders/resists/reactors/power diags.
it is about 15 seconds also in 0.6. i have killed a hulk in a 0.9 system once in a domi that i had sitting around that the insurance was gona expire in a few days. i undocked in a station on my way to get it killed in 0.0 for the insurance and i saw a hulk undock and warp to a belt. i then got the urge and checked my assets list for sentry drones and smart bombs. needless to say 20 minutes later there was a dead hulk in the belt and insurance isk in my wallet. (this was when hulks cost over 500 mil each)
another time some dudes kept smacking me and a freind in local while we were running a complex in a 0.6 system. we got two caracals with heavy missiles in the highs, 4 target painters each in the mids ( the guy was in a tanked hawk so he had a very small sig size) one of us had a scram the other had a web. 2 bcu's in the lows, drones, and insurance at 100%. a day passed and we did not see the guy, then some other guy came and was snaking stuff out of the complex from me, so we went and got into out caracals. i fired up a second account for looting with a ship scanner to see what type of damage to deal. the guy was in a faction fit enyo, with a nice tank on it including a faction small rep. we flew up to him and started shooting at him at the same time. his siz size was 30 ish m2 and our heavy missiles had a explosive diameter of about 120 m2 so we had to use 8 target painters to get full damage out of our missiles. we let go on him and barely killed him before concord owned us and i alt-tabbed over to my alt for looting. what i forgot is when the rats in the plex loose a target they find another. after looting my alt barely got out of the plex with bout 50 structure left on his atron. i then traded bout 60+ mil worth of faction loot over to my freind for helping me. cost us about 4 mil after insurance and like 0.2 of sec status. was the most fun i had the whole week.
it does not matter if you are in a highsec system if you annoy someone enough they will get you.

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Zirth
Caldari Dragonian Freelancers CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.22 09:45:00 -
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I scanned this shuttle, 200 blueprints, went in my cruiser and bombed him. But the responce time didnt even let me have another cycle, checked the mail, was a 0.5 system. Didn't really take more than a few seconds to get agro'd.
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Altrex Stoppel
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada careful with sec status, or odd things will happen
Like This
sorry just looked for a way to paste that image
I remember the person who had that sig. Made me 
Originally by: ISD Mod-hango (talking about SNOWY) It's a pirate corp, deployed near the amarr gates.
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Speed Devil
Caldari Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.23 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Zirth I scanned this shuttle, 200 blueprints, went in my cruiser and bombed him. But the responce time didnt even let me have another cycle, checked the mail, was a 0.5 system. Didn't really take more than a few seconds to get agro'd.
sentrys will immediatly start shooting, but when ur in a belt the response time is long in 0.5
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William Hamilton
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Posted - 2007.04.23 04:18:00 -
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Would an arty-thrasher be better than a neutron-catalyst?
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Zanzul
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.04.23 05:48:00 -
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Brutix
7x Heavy Neutron I
2x Stasis Web I 1x Warp Scram I 1x Large Shield Extender I
3x Mag Stab I 1x RCU I 1x DCU I
Antimatter, 5x Valkyrie I
Pops any T1 hauler (Extended or not) in 0.5/0.6 WAAAAY before CONCORD even shows up. If it was allowed, I could propably save the Brutix every time by simply aligning, but too bad it's not.
Ship: 23m Insurance: 8m Fit: 1m Insurance payout: 27m
Total: 5m lost every ship (Aka you can gank pretty much anything that has any decent T2 mods in it, it's just about if you see it worth the sec hit :))
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Miss KillSome
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.04.23 07:21:00 -
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dont fit webs, rather fit additional painter and shield extender..
target will stop when u scram it, and indy just cant accelerate that fast to give u any problems before u are dead from concord..
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Zanzul
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.04.23 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Miss KillSome dont fit webs, rather fit additional painter and shield extender..
target will stop when u scram it, and indy just cant accelerate that fast to give u any problems before u are dead from concord..
The one extender is all I need, wont propably even need that but it helps, the gate sentries always put me into structure before the CONCORD even gets there so there is little to no point in fitting more than that. 2 Webbers instead lower the transversal to minimum and you would be suprised on the amount of stabs people fit on their afk haulers <.<
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