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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 13:55:00 -
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My dear friend RaBbLe66,
the information you posted is ancient BoB strategy.
Typically BoB is very willing to accept former enemies into their ranks.
If BoB ever succeeds, we will see all of 0.0 napped with them, and eve will be the most boring place to hang.
I still do not understand how any decent pilot could fly for them. BoB and eve do not mix. I am completely convinced that with the end of BoB the fun factor in eve will increase drastically.
Regards, VV
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 13:56:22
Originally by: Raivi
Originally by: Victor Vision My dear friend RaBbLe66,
the information you posted is ancient BoB strategy.
Typically BoB is very willing to accept former enemies into their ranks.
If BoB ever succeeds, we will see all of 0.0 napped with them, and eve will be the most boring place to hang.
I still do not understand how any decent pilot could fly for them. BoB and eve do not mix. I am completely convinced that with the end of BoB the fun factor in eve will increase drastically.
Regards, VV
Thank you for contributing to our discussion on the definition of flamebait by providing one of the most obvious examples of flamebait possible.
Thank you for showing yet again you have no idea of what a flamebait is.
If you disagree with an opinion, that does not mean said opinion is a flamebait.
Better luck posting next time.
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 15:55:35
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Victor Vision My dear friend RaBbLe66,
the information you posted is ancient Coalition strategy.
Typically the Coalition is very willing to accept former enemies into their ranks.
If Coalition ever succeeds, we will see all of 0.0 napped with them, and eve will be the most boring place to hang.
Fixed that for you. The Coalition is absolutely no different from BoB in this regard; just like BoB, they have extended offers to their enemies (such as FIX) in an attempt to get them to change sides.
This is one aspect in which the two sides are surely no different from one another.
Hey! You stole my post and turned it all around! How could you! ...
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 16:45:27
Originally by: Falryx
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic You forget that before the coalition was the coalition, it was a bunch of corps that traditionally fought each-other.
I have no doubt that the NAPs that have formed are temporary. Most of us have an understanding that once the bob war is over, standings will be reset and old grudges will once again come to the surface.
I'm less convinced of this, personally. Especially if any entities find that together, they have a more glorious future of domination than they do separately.
Well, it is BoB's goal to dominate eve, not the coalitions. The coalitions goal is to make sure BoB's eve domination dreams do not come true, ever.
Any one side dominating eve, even if you are on the side that does, is a nightmare for any true PvPer.
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 17:44:33
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: merc999 Edited by: merc999 on 19/04/2007 17:07:46
Quote: Allainces on BoBs wish list include TCF IAC IRON
Alliances to be destroyed no matter what are Goons RA D2 Pandemic Legion
Nice to see Snigg in the only list we would want to be on.. and honoured to be in such good company
If you mean that in pvp terms it definately doesnt apply to all the names on that list by a mile... if you mean it in the "nice lads - good friends" kind of way ignore my post.
Mr. Crellion,
as I see it BoB stands for: Unity, complete control and discipline.
The coalition stands for: Diversity, fun and freedom.
Now answer me one question: how could any PvPer fight for a side that strives for complete eve domination - while at the same time reaching that goal would render him useless?
If you are a true PvPer, choose your side. But choose wisely.
Regards, VV
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Eversor Bob doesn't care about you, they only care about how you might help them reach their objectives AND interests. After that you are disposable tissue.
Hence the lesson learned is make sure you stay useful 
Sorry Josh, but got to ask this:
Useful to whom?
To themselves or their masters?
Or would you agrue that is one and the same?
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 19:21:37
Originally by: Crellion Edited by: Crellion on 19/04/2007 19:11:06
Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 17:44:33Mr. Crellion,
as I see it BoB stands for: Unity, complete control and discipline.
The coalition stands for: Diversity, fun and freedom.
Now answer me one question: how could any PvPer fight for a side that strives for complete eve domination - while at the same time reaching that goal would render him useless?
If you are a true PvPer, choose your side. But choose wisely.
Regards, VV
Your argument is rather moot. "Unity, complete control and discipline" are necessary in fleet pvp. Without that (in a fleet) you are really a joke... On the other hand "Diversity, fun and freedom" are great in solo and small gang pvp... I am sure BoB do both. I am sure some among the coallition do both (those that have a clue). I also do both.
Taking a step back what you say has little or no bearing on the BoB v Coallition thingy and nothing at all to do with my post which you quote...
I am a bit at a loss as to what you are trying to tell me... perhaps I am not "a true PvPer" and you are wasting your time?
In any case let me take this opportunity to clarify that I didnt mean that all the corps on the list are not "such good company" in pvp terms but rather that not all off them are... perhaps a small distinction but a substantial one I assure you. o/
Mr. Crellion,
I am not talking about organization of a single gang or operation in the war. I am talking about general principles the two sides stand for. Do you know what the BoB logo means for example?
I would never go as far as saying you are not a good PvPer, maybe you are an excellent one. I just find it shortsighted if PvPers spend their ammo fighting for goals that eventually would mean the end to good PvP in eve.
Or do you beg to differ on the stance that one side controlling all would be bad for eve PvP?
Regards, VV
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: TJ17
Originally by: Victor Vision My dear friend RaBbLe66,
the information you posted is ancient BoB strategy.
Typically BoB is very willing to accept former enemies into their ranks.
If BoB ever succeeds, we will see all of 0.0 napped with them, and eve will be the most boring place to hang.
I still do not understand how any decent pilot could fly for them. BoB and eve do not mix. I am completely convinced that with the end of BoB the fun factor in eve will increase drastically.
Regards, VV
eve will still have bob wither way of the outcome if bob loses they will simply not quit eve they will stay bob or break off into either singal entitys like they were before bob or they would join differnt alliances
Yes, agreed this will probably happen if BoB looses, Mr. TJ17.
What a wonderfull outlook providing lots of PvP action and diversity.
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.19 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 22:33:43
Originally by: Crellion Edited by: Crellion on 19/04/2007 19:47:22
Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 19:41:20
...do you beg to differ on the stance that if the side that stands for unity, control and discipline was controlling all of eve it would be bad for eve PvP?
Thats exactly what I am telling you. Pvp is so varied and adaptable that it will be equally great in eve irrespective of what BoB and/or the Coallition do...
Mr. Crellion,
it seems you have much trust in some sort of magic mechanism that will save eve from boredom if BoB were to control most of eve. I disagree. The reports from eve china give a good indication of what can happen if one alliance becomes too powerfull.
Fortunatly the Coalition is doing a great job in the war against the allied forces of BoB. So all looks good for now.
Originally by: Crellion
Still your comments have nothing to do with the post that you originally quoted.
My comments were a direct reply to you insulting the pvp capeabilities of some Coalition alliances/corps. As I said, my opinion is that good PvPers looking for great fights and a desireable future in EvE will be found on the coalition side. Other good PvPers who are not yet, should think about joining up.
That is all.
Regards, VV
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Victor Vision
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Posted - 2007.04.20 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kespii You are stupid, you think ideology matters in a video game.....your a joke
Haha 
Refreshingly simple post.
Actually, I do not care for ideology in video games too much. I just want to have fun playing, and I do what I think is neccessary to preserve that fun for some time to come... 
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