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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.22 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tek'a Rain Edited by: Tek''a Rain on 21/04/2007 21:21:48 Intaki fighting at the beck and call of slavers... I call All Decent and honest pilots of the IU to look at their leadership, look where it has taken them, and come to their senses.
Your leaders and mentors have betrayed your loyalty and cast all you would fight for into shambles. Can you look at yourself in the mirror and speak of freedom while you are fighting to support Slavery and Murder, Opression and cultural Genocide?
sickening. just sickening.
Whoa, there. Talk about them fighting with the Amarr is premature. They haven't even (re)declared war yet. Which is amusing, since the last time we went through this, they declared war and then came out with the ultimatums after. _
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Tar Magen
Amarr Arx Amarria
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Posted - 2007.04.22 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tar Magen on 22/04/2007 07:22:32
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux So, let me get this straight. We (Star Fraction) are fighting the enemies (Amarr paramilitaries, CAIN) of your enemy (the Federation). We're also on good terms with another of your enemies (Sani Sabik, who you oppose for what appear to be personal reasons.) Because of this, you're willing to leave your regular area of operation (Syndicate) and move to a place far from your sphere of influence (Amarr) to engage someone who, prior to your declaration of hostilities against us, wished you all the best in pursuing your goals. All so you could fight alongside those whose agenda only matches your own in that they also oppose the Federation.
Is that about right? Am I reading the political landscape correctly? Feel free to correct any of my misconceptions.
I imagine this is quite correct. You (Star Fraction) have succeeded in being so annoying to the pod pilot community at large that you are now being dogpiled. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't stop until your organization of anarchists (now there's a contradiction) is obliterated.
I also imagine your leader's apparently sexually-based good relations with the mad Sani Sabik doesn't help either. Will members of the Star Fraction now start drinking blood and executing 10000 slaves at a whim too? |

Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.22 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Magen your organization of anarchists (now there's a contradiction) is obliterated.
Go here and I'll tell you why you're wrong. 
Originally by: Tar Magen Will members of the Star Fraction now start drinking blood and executing 10000 slaves at a whim too?
Personally, I'll be drinking blood and executing slavers at a whim. Does that count?
As for being "dogpiled", what did you think the Judas Goat was for in the first place? Seriously.
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Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2007.04.22 10:20:00 -
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It seems that Intaki Union is a classic example a pseudo freedom fighting organization, likes of which are sadly fairly common.
They are a group of people blinded by their hate to Federation so instead of pursuing the liberation of Intaki, they instead made it their primary objective to target Gallente Federation, its supporters, and even enemies of its enemies.
They are the kind of people who will one day tell you they are fighting for freedom of their brothers and sisters, and the next day they will sign a contract with another dictatorial authority to fight their "opressors". They are not looking for liberation, but for revenge, and establishment of the new order under which Intaki will simply have another master.
The fact is however, that goals in any potentially successful revolution must be absolute. If after destroying your enemies you suddenly discover that your former friends are a threat to the freedom of your kin, then the blood of your friends must flow. In this case IU is doing something completely opposite.
Intaki Union, you are a shame to your own people, and you betray their interests.
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Eden Ramani
INTAKI UNION The OSS
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Posted - 2007.04.22 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tecam Hund
you betray their interests.
that is not for you to decide Mr. Hund. We guide ourselves as best we can and we believe we have found the proper path.
Tatsue, you may post what ever you like but please do so on another thread. I asked Tomahawk to stop responding because forum banter is a waste of time and not part of this thread. Any serious questions can be forwarded to me vial EVE-mail systems.
Thank you.
Eden Ramani
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0609/IntakiUnion.wmv Toma's: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0701/IUwar.wmv Kristie's: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/kristie/IU_-_CYI_War_Vid_-.wmv |

Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.22 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Eden Ramani Any serious questions can be forwarded to me vial EVE-mail systems.
Thank you.
Eden Ramani
Would it be so very shameful to answer these questions publicly? _
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Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2007.04.22 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Eden Ramani
Originally by: Tecam Hund
you betray their interests.
that is not for you to decide Mr. Hund. We guide ourselves as best we can and we believe we have found the proper path.
I never claimed to be deciding your corporation's policy. It is my opinion and a pretty logical conclusion though, that an average Intaki does not need Amarr Empire to be his ally if freedom is the goal.
And before we go into "Please don't discuss anything here" mantra. You made a public announcement, and so far everything discussed here was on topic. Don't want to answer questions, then don't seek publicity.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.04.22 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Eden Ramani
Statement two,
Intaki Union, taking a temporary leave of absence from the widely successful fighting in Syndicate, will enter the current conflict among the Paramilitaries on the side of the Caldari State, the Amarr Empire, the Ammatar Mandate and the Khanid Kingdom.
The paramilitaries of the Ammatar Mandate are not involved in the conflict you describe.
Delictum 23216 Official forums |

Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.22 22:04:00 -
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That's all right Scagga, Intaki Union isn't involved either.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr A Better Future
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Posted - 2007.04.22 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Would it be so very shameful to answer these questions publicly?
Or maybe they know that anything said on GalNet involving the Star Fraction is going to be (with 100% certainty) subjected to Star Fraction spin.
How difficult is it to understand. They made an announcement because they thought the public should know, they also declined to engage in a war of words with the Star fraction.
Why? Because it would inevitably lead to their words being misquoted and twisted into a parody of the original statement that didn't reflect the spirit and intent of the original message. That's what the Star Fraction does best and some people don't find that particular game all that amusing. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary. |
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.22 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Why? Because it would inevitably lead to their words being misquoted and twisted into a parody of the original statement that didn't reflect the spirit and intent of the original message. That's what the Star Fraction does best and some people don't find that particular game all that amusing.
Its a bit rich for you to be the person making that accusation Nomakai. You personally are quite renowned as a word-twisting double-speak merchant yourself you know ... Getting in the anti-SF sideswipes on the Intaki Union "intention to backstab" thread and then acting all defensive about the "off topic" knocking you just got back is going to be your next step I imagine.
What say you respect the intelligence of the readership of Galnet a little more and dispense with the mock-outrage and theatrics just this once though okay? 
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Bacchanalian
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.22 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Would it be so very shameful to answer these questions publicly?
Or maybe they know that anything said on GalNet involving the Star Fraction is going to be (with 100% certainty) subjected to Star Fraction spin.
How difficult is it to understand. They made an announcement because they thought the public should know, they also declined to engage in a war of words with the Star fraction.
Why? Because it would inevitably lead to their words being misquoted and twisted into a parody of the original statement that didn't reflect the spirit and intent of the original message. That's what the Star Fraction does best and some people don't find that particular game all that amusing.
How's this for spin: Now a full two days hence from the original announcement, there is still no formal declaration of war from Intaki Union. They claim they are not looking for a war of words, and yet the only shots they've fired as of yet are of the verbal sort flung on GalNet.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr A Better Future
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Posted - 2007.04.23 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Its a bit rich for you to be the person making that accusation Nomakai. You personally are quite renowned as a word-twisting double-speak merchant yourself you know ... Getting in the anti-SF sideswipes on the Intaki Union "intention to backstab" thread and then acting all defensive about the "off topic" knocking you just got back is going to be your next step I imagine.
What say you respect the intelligence of the readership of Galnet a little more and dispense with the mock-outrage and theatrics just this once though okay? 
Outrage? None at all. Outrage would in some way imply that I'm shocked, suprised or offended, which would imply that I in some way didn't expect this behavior from SF or if I displayed mock-outrage it would be because I wanted to give the apperance that I didn't expect this behavior from SF. Amusement is more like it, because being accused of mock-outrage and theatrics by you is only slightly less amusing than if it had been Revan, the postergirl for GalNet theatrics and mock-outrage.
First. It's no secret that extensive GalNet fencing is a personal flaw of mine, and as such I tend to bandy words with you, Revan and a few others. Secondly, I despise the SF (if you need to know why, but I expect that you do not, feel free to ask me by evemail or in another thread) and as such I enjoy getting in little sideswipes against you when I can, both on GalNet and elsewhere (and only limited by my personal finances and limited dedication to this anti-SF side-project). Put the two together and it's almost irresistable to make such a sideswipe. Especially when you invite them by harassing people who have expressed a desire to remain unharassed and take the argument somewhere more important.
But just because I enjoy saying that this is the case doesn't make it any less true. Someone has to say it, because with the exception of Tomahawk Bliss the Intaki Union isn't exactly "wordy" (and apparantly Bliss himself has been gagged on this issue). If IU doesn't engage then the people who need to know will know, with or without your GalNet banter. As it is you're just trying to score cheap points by kicking someone who isn't willing to kick back (at least not on GalNet).
As for IUs lack of wardeclaration. Since IU hasn't engaged I suspect there is (again) some heated internal politics going on. IU is a syndicate corp, and as such they really can't be afraid of fighting. Syndicate eats up those unwilling to commit. What ever the outcome I'm patient and willing to wait for them to sort it out (no matter the outcome). How come you're not Jasmine (and yes, that is another sideswipe)?
To tell the absolute honest truth here. Though it's a disservice against Intaki Union I personally have no problem with this thread derailing. It's a disservice to IU, but for the Amarr cause it's good. Because every post you make here only proves how needy the SF is for attention and how many people you're ready to step on (in any number of ways) to get it.
With that I've said what I wanted to say, so any further derailment of this thread won't come from me. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary. |

Casserina Leshrac
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.04.23 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Personally, I'll be drinking blood and executing slavers at a whim. Does that count?
I would find that most...satisfying 
However, I have better, more constructive suggestion. Why don't we sell the slavers to the Minmatar Republic. I am certain they will pay good ISK for it and furthermore, it might be amusing to see what happens next.
Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminati From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos. |

Idaeus
Gallente Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Eden Ramani that is not for you to decide Mr. Hund. We guide ourselves as best we can and we believe we have found the proper path.
As one of several Intaki on the outside looking in at the actions of the Intaki Union, the fact that those same Intaki (myself included) raise doubts about your course of action should make you take pause.
You're too close to the subject my dear. Those of us on the outside can see the bigger picture and we don't see anything good coming from this. I implore the Intaki Union to step back and focus on the affairs of the Intaki, and let the Amarr handle themselves.
I will not ask you to halt your campaign against the Federation even if I feel that healing the rifts among our own people is much more important. You get more, after all with a kind word and a 2x4, than just a kind word.
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Jack Malus
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:49:00 -
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So here we are three days later and still no ships on the battlefront? With the leadership change these logistical snafu's are to be expected I suppose.
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:13:00 -
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Jack Malus,
We have yet to receive a war declaration. They have, however, now left the OSS, so I assume they are either working through the vote or processing applications to join the Aegis Militia.
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Karass Sayfo
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:57:00 -
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Blatant off-topic posts removed. Please remain strictly on-topic regarding the Intaki Union policy changes, and please keep the discussion regarding the Star Fraction vs Amarrian paramilitary in the more appropriate threads. Thanks!
- Karass Sayfo _______
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Murukan
Minmatar Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.04.23 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko That's all right Scagga, Intaki Union isn't involved either.
They beat a good drum though eh?
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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